FWIW I used Orca for a week and then went back to Herdr..
Orca has a lot of UI bugs, buttons that don't work, menus that don't disappear, etc.. To be fair they push updates quite regularly, but I think I will check back in once it's a bit more stable.
If you like taking bets on smaller oss & independent projects that have no interest in creating a vc backed business, I'm working (9 months+ now) on https://ouijit.com/
I switched to Paseo a few months ago. Fully open-source, I've had no issues with it. But no cloud provider option, so to speak. (I run an instance of Paseo in a Hetzner box, agents working full-time, haven't really had to do any maintenance on it...)
For what it's worth, I'm using plain Claude Code: one git worktree per session, the sessions messaging each other directly, and one coordinator session that assigns the work. To be honest, it fills the multi-agent gap pretty well. It's not as polished as Conductor, but given how much Claude Code itself has improved over the last few months, and where it's heading, I think it's a good alternative to just stick with.
Wednesday, Nov 4 New users can no longer sign up for Conductor or download the app.
Friday, Nov 13 Conductor Cloud goes read-only
Local Conductor will continue working as normal for now. It will start winding down in early 2027.
Congratulations to the team - but it's a bitter ending. I wish, in these cases, the company could open source a version of their desktop software. But I'm sure the tech is part of what Meta is acquiring.
I started using Conductor in January this year and it was a great tool - Charlie and the team knocked it out of the park. I only migrated to Orca when I needed better multi-machine control, and remote control, but these tools are a dime-a-dozen now. I'm not sure that if I was hunting for a new tool today that I'd pick up Orca. Maybe Herdr? or Stencil's Tern?
All that to say - they built a great product with great UX. Looking forward to seeing what they build next at Meta!
My needs (multi machine set up, one tool) do not work well with “one VM”. If I ran Claude code on one VM, I’d only have that one machines resources. I’d have to have a second session in another terminal tab which is… well that’s Herdr. And orca. They manage those.
If you’re looking for an open-source alternative, I’m the creator of woltspace [0], which is a way of coordinating your wolts (coding agents) by letting them talk to each other and giving them a lodge on your machine.
I built it for myself as a dev who loves tmux and vim and who was very unsatisfied with the typical agent orchestration experience. You should check it out! The biggest advantage is you bring your coding agents to woltspace, not the other way around.
Western AI giants have hundreds of billions of dollars to make back in a world where China is releasing open source tooling and open weights models. How else does they make their money back other than finding _something_ proprietary to sell.
The economics of these harnesses I don't think lend to many winners, the model usage plans the big guys have at offer will always undercut the small players no matter how much they try to resell an openmodel for $20/mo. Congrats to the team though!
(disclosure: I'm a founder of yet another T3/Conductor competitor, https://boxes.dev)
You might want to do a quick eval of all the products in the space vs your org's needs! There are a lot of options now, and T3 isn't really a drop-in replacement for Conductor if you wanted the cloud setup.
Specifically T3's great for local, but for cloud they don't host anything - you just run their server on your own machine / VM. Which works ok, esp if you prefer full self-hosted, but then parallel agents still share a machine and need worktrees for isolation. Conductor Cloud actually eliminated worktrees by giving each workspace its own VM with a dev environment preloaded - which is the same approach we (and a few others) are taking.
Also you're not mentioning that Boxes is not open-source, where as T3 is. They just had to leave Conductor essentially because it was an acquihire of a closed source offering. I think if we're to stay safe in an environment that's moving this fast: we do need the code so that we can continue using it in case of these M&A's.
Also - if you are a developer/SWE this 'keep your laptop closed' thing with these control planes is mostly hype. I'd place my bets on something like Rex (https://www.superlogical.com/) instead.
If you’re interested in self hosting your own, I’m the creator of woltspace [0], it’s a fully open-source way of managing your team of coding agents (wolts). You give the wolts a lodge on your own infra. They’re always on, always reachable, and fun beavers and racoons that evolve over time. Happy to chat about it! It’s by far my favourite workflow as a dev who loves tmux and being in a terminal
Why not try one of the existing services before you spend time maintaining something yourself? For the past two months, I've been using boxes.dev
95% of all my sessions are on boxes. Initially, the draw was just a remote box that I could control on mobile, but some of the features they have added recently, like coordinating child sessions, are wildly good.
I know there are new startups in this space every day, so what tipped things for me was that the team is so responsive and ships features in the matter of hours.
I'll tinker with this on the side. To see "how hard can it be anyhow" and to maybe end up with something better long term.
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Edit:
Surprise, surprise - I'm launching a new open source project: "Conducted" (not affiliated with, or to be confused with any similar brands)
Conducted is MIT license, and will remain open source until hell has frozen over.
Looking for contributors ;) .. Feel free to give it a star, throw some agents in its direction.
Hi! Co-founder here. Conductor actually kicked off with a HN post many lifetimes ago in July 2025 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44594584). I owe so much to this community. Thank you all so much!
The whole team is around to help answer any questions. You can reach out to me personally at charlie [at] melty.sh.
I'm in the awkward position of wanting to congratulate you and scold you at the same time. Wish you'd been bought by Anthropic or something instead. Anyhow- congrats on getting scooped up.
To my understanding Muse has finally caught up to Anthropic, OAI and others atleast on coding and other benchmarks. This move makes the most sense to now quickly try to capture the market.
Just wanted to congratulate you guys. Like many of us here, I had a mixed reaction of happy for your team, but also sad for Conductor. I tried a bunch of different approaches for coding agents, once I started using Conductor I was like "oh I guess I'm done looking for a harness" - a beautiful clean UI, great UX and just an overall smooth experience with all the features you could need.
Hopefully Meta does something good with your team's talent and technology, but regardless, it was a huge productivity boost for me and I really appreciate that. Good luck to you and your team at Meta!
im so curious what specifically makes this possible. I have no experience with conductor but your comment reminds me of how impressed I was with the development speed of parse.com. I'm likely dating myself; it was the first serverless/firebase backend concept that supported mobile app development. I wasn't even a user I just noted how prolific the feature rollouts were. So polished too. They got acqui-hired by Meta and I'm sure the founders did well.
Anyway, for anyone reading, just a not developer-led products. How do they do it?!
I will always recommend T3 Code, it is by far the best one I have tried that isn't glued to a specific model provider. Trades blows with Codex / Claude Desktop in terms of features. All of the other multi-provider orchestrators have not been keeping up with Claude Desktop in particular adding features at lightning-speed, but T3 Code somehow manages.
(I am building my own tool in this area and I literally downloaded and tried all of them as market research)
Give my dreamcoder.ai harness a whirl. Runs in your browser on all 3 platforms. Tiling window manager; generous use of keyboard shortcuts, so it's not just for mouse users.
I switched from conductor to orca because conductor didn’t support mobile app working with local instances and didn’t have a good cli/mcp at the time.
Very happy I switched. I’m extremely productive on mobile. It defiiitely feels power usery but i am one so it works great.
My only gripe is sometimes it loses connections to workspaces in a way that is hard to recover BUT the meta conductor living on top can resolve it for me. Kudos for having it.
appImage is not a great packaging format for Linux. Any chance you could ship a flatpak instead? You'd likely need to host your own flatpak remote, but it's not rocket surgery.
Thank you for your consideration and for your work.
Free 3 month sub to any current Conductor user. We promise to never sell to Facebook, X or other weirdo billionaires. I started this company to get away from working at big tech and not to sell to it. Up to 10 cloud workspaces per person, works with all the things you need.
https://hive.codes/signup
I'm one of the founders of https://podium.do. We created Podium because none of the other ADEs worked like what we wanted. I think it could be interesting for you to checkout as an alternative because there are similarities to Conductor, plus a few interesting additional features. We are pretty strong for complex tasks because we put an agent native issue tracker at the core of architecture which turned out as a super power in that case.
I had the same question. I think this is in the space of being like the 'trillian' or 'matrix' of ai agents, using multi provider coding agent from a single interface plus some bells and whistles.
But I think within claude code and codex subagent support has improved a lot lately and it doesn't seem this would improve that much over that native support if you only use one provider.
The benefit is not spinning up sub-agents, but spinning up parallel workstreams. They basically took 90% of the friction out of working with and using worktrees. I was using Linear a lot (and enjoying it!) for my issue tracking, but at some point I realized it's more productive to just create a new worktree in Conductor for any bug/feature and cut out the middleman.
hmm so working on different features let's say on the same git, in parallel, without causing issues? Is the improvement of this parallelization worth it on solo projects or it becomes only relevant on big projects with lots of PRs and such?
It's always useful to have even if you don't need 8 worktrees with agents all going at the same time (I rarely have more than 2-3 active at a time). Typically there a tension between the 'fast way' (a big ol' slop branch bag of assorted changes) and the 'correct way' (carefully isolated branches and PRs) - with a smart implementation of worktrees like Conductor, the correct way becomes just as fast. That's basically the heart of good UX in my mind.
Realistically for them, coding harnesses are an extremely competitive landscape, and they have to live in constant fear that Anthropic/OpenAI etc will rugpull them and force these harnesses to go through API billing (effectively killing it as an option for I would guess the majority of their users). That nearly happened earlier this year when Anthropic intimated they were going to do this.
The other reality is, there are now good free alternatives to Conductor (I haven't tried them so we will see) - it does suck if you feel very tied to your existing workflow, but I also think about it from the level of 'these people gave me something for free that helped me a lot, and I want things to work out well for them'.
(As someone who isn't particularly happy about this news)
> why sellout your company and your customers and community?
Why not? Do you think this is a heart project, that the founders have a personal passion for agent orchestration somehow? They're not curing cancer or supporting orphans, most companies are created to make money, that's how our economic system works (for better or worse, but I'm not going to blame individuals or be surprised about it).
"community"... Come on. There's customers, there's no community here.
We built https://boxes.dev specifically for cloud dev / isolated VMs (disclosure, I'm one of the founders). Getting work off your laptop is such a productivity boost when you have parallel threads. Obviously there are a ton of products in this category (rest of the comments here have many examples) but we're 100% focused on the cloud experience
Trying this out... based on Claude's assessment it's got the fullest support for my existing workflow requirements compared to some of the others ones suggested.
We've been building https://www.superconductor.com/ since before Conductor had cloud (actually, technically before Conductor was released, so the naming is a funny coincidence). Our team's been working together for over a decade across multiple startups (and one prior exit) and we put pride into building an excellent multiplayer, multi-surface, mobile-friendly experience so teams can work together with agents anywhere on any project. Give us a look and let us know how it goes!
Tried Conductor in the past but had migrated all of our teams remote development work to http://boxes.dev as it was much more intuitive and easier to manage parallel workstreams.
Would highly recommend it for anyone looking for an alternative with Conductor shutting down.
I used conductor when it was first released for quite some time. Great product but i ultimately wanted to use my own networked devices to do work, so i moved to herdr and then ultimately to t3 code now.
Very happy to see the team get a happy ending/landing!
Congrats to the team! This is a great acquire for meta to super speed their coding agent rival. It's very exciting to now have another tier 1 major player in the space.
well, conductor was so great that after using it for a few weeks, I completely stopped fearing a lock-in. I just use the official cli + desktop apps now. tmux + a bit of custom scripting works wonders.
Site looks great, congrats - will have a peek - but I feel task handling is better done in the repo itself? (repo-as-the-harness thinking) especially for teams.
Interesting idea, but we find task data is too high throughput to put into git. I assume with the new crop of DVCSs that can handle much more volume this might change.
Your website focuses quite a bit on speed. Can you talk about _how_ it achieves this (besides potentially running on a server that's closer to where the models are hosted?)
This morning my team was a bit grumpy about this. This afternoon we've already forked + reverse engineered the whole project, including Passport (our favorite feature)! LLMs truly are amazing, lol.
I created https://superintelligencehive.com/ because I wanted my own orchestrator - it is local and has most of the features you could want. And forever free.
I really fail to understand what is going on here.
There is literally no moat in most software expect the users a product has acquired. The number of slightly different solution to an existing product is wild. And this is getting crazier. I build for the fun of it now. Completely lost any sight of $ goals.
I am building agents, have own gui framework, own server orchestration, and now looking at deploying multi-app servers using unikernels. I build for my niche audience and make them happy - I am going via my existing clients who are in the property management domain. Non technical folks who have to handle everything from inspection to finance. My ideal type of folks.
I am sure by the time I build my end to end agent/orchestration/deployment/management system, I will have some customers and many more clones. Slightly different clones. This is the future. Why would anyone acquire anything?
Companies acquire talent
;Companies acquire products with a fast-growing usage base
;Companies acquire products that can help them beat competition in a fraction of the time it would take to build internally
(in decreasing order of "real value" and increasing order of self-deception)
I feel its less about the tech and more about the stage Meta and Conductor are in, right now
That's not necessarily true. They can be using it to jumpstart their own desktop app.
I don't see a Muse desktop app, this gives them something they can spin up in a few weeks, not months, with native cloud integration. I'd guess we're going to see a product competing with OpenAi/Anthropic (as far as standalone apps are concerned) by January.
You mean that desktop app is not something I can spin up in days with my tiniest of LLM budgets?
I do not know where people are lost these days. I build ambitious apps with 3x $20 subscriptions. And I live in a village in eastern Himalayas. People are really in a bubble.
LLMs have crushed the idea of "using [another product] to jumpstart" anything. Just build it.
Yes you can build it in a single prompt, but you miss the 93 versions of iterations and thoughts of the developers who've already made the project. If you have the money, why not buy a product/team that already has a year of experience with real users instead of reinventing the wheel?
That is your assumption. I am not talking about one-shot. I mean that lots are people are going through more iterative development cycles than ever in the history of software. Just my own examples (100% agent written)
All these and more, from a single engineer with 3 x $20 subscriptions. While I also run chicken and pig farms. It will take time for people outside tech hubs to understand what LLMs enable.
Not that I don’t think there’s amazing things that can be built easier, but designing and building a product is more than writing the code. Look at where you spent effort for your own examples. There’s a skill there which goes further than just reverse engineering an existing solution, and that skill is obviously of value to Meta. People were going crazy for the price they paid for instagram some years ago I remember.
I mean okay but you're looking at two very different things. At your description, it makes no sense to acquire your business. But Conductor is not building for a niche audience and is a radically different beast. Even before this acquisition they raised over 20 mil. You're using very naive thinking when you're talking about value here, its not as simple as why buy a company when someone can vibecode it. This is particularly funny because its usually AI labs that are following through with some of the biggest buys lately.
Why do you think how I am building is not going to be the norm? Software is going the way of plumbing. Pick a tiny niche, build highly customized workflows and sell to them. Global products finding audience across 100 countries is no longer working.
Raising money was not an indicator of value before LLMs but it helped a lot. I have been tech lead of a couple US based seed-funded startups and I definitely see the value.
But most software has no intrinsic hard engineering these days. A few do. Companies raise money because they feel they will grow into a large user-base. Then, either make money or get acquired. Where is "value" here? Its VC-speak all the way.
Privately funded AI labs in the US are buying, yes. I highly doubt this trend will go on when the return on investment starts fading. There is momentum in executives. The "value" is how they used to see things. Takes time to update.
just when I was starting to really like conductor. It's a really good app / idea for working with agents. The strongest workflow I've used. Ig I'll move to herd now.
nice to get paid by meta, but cmmon read the room.
woahhhh congrats to the conductor team! If folks are looking for cloud agents/replacement, can't recommend boxes.dev enough, they've got phenomenal support and ship INCREDIBLY fast.
I switched to Paseo long ago because of its full featured mobile app, local client server architecture, and open sourcedness. Conductor began to feel stale, pricey, and understandably but annoying for me moving toward enterprise.
I was a early user of conductor, even gave a lot of feedback through the inapp button (the team responded to me personally and quickly always which was nice, and my feature requests got into the app quickly). I've stopped using it a long time ago but at the time it was a game changer for me.
Shameless plug: I made https://aweb.ai, which does essentially the same but can also add chatgpt and claude.ai instances to the team, works for agents across many computers and organizations, lets you organize them in teams, gives your agents private or public ids (multi-register and federated), and is OSS.
I was just commenting yesterday (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50367546) how I really like Conductor except that it doesn't work so well if you want to work across multiple repositories.
I guess that's the kick I needed to dig into the alternatives.
Is anybody else running into the problem trying to sign up for Conductor, where it says that new signups are closed and offers you no other route forward? There are some docs referencing the Meta acquisition and a focus on local since they're closing cloud, but no way to actually use the Mac app locally without signup.
It seems like it's got a lot of utility for my team and I, but jesus
Their announcement literally says that Conductor Local will be supported into 2027, which is 2 months away. Now is not the time to be jumping on board with it.
every time a new tool appears, everyone around me is like "you should try you should try it". but i am here, stuck with my vim and tmux. and im glad i did. most of the new shiny things get enshittifed or acquired by shady corporations. long live vim+tmux
Well, if any of the disgruntled people on this thread fancy moving to an agent with a similarly-themed name and vibe, Juggler (https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler) is available.
No sign-up required - the angle I'm taking is that juggler is a client-server architecture, and if you want cloud VM sessions, you just spin up your own server and run a juggler server process on there. Its GUI is identical whether it's a local or remote session.
(I'd never actually heard of conductor, but interesting to see that people do want that kind of managed cloud backend server. I might think about the logistics of offering that)
And I promise to never sell-out to Meta[1].
[1] Nah, of course I would if they offered me a really huge amount of money.
ayayronf | 17 hours ago
askedrelic | 16 hours ago
Herdr has been another YC favorite https://herdr.dev/
sbarre | 15 hours ago
Orca has a lot of UI bugs, buttons that don't work, menus that don't disappear, etc.. To be fair they push updates quite regularly, but I think I will check back in once it's a bit more stable.
nwparker | 13 hours ago
We test our product like crazy, so I'm quite surprised to hear this. But feel free to drop me a message, open a GH issue or otherwise.
We are OSS MIT and always open to feedback
pbjerkeseth | 14 hours ago
gh: https://github.com/ouijit/ouijit
It's a bit unique from a design standpoint, but the next release brings it a little more in line with the zeitgeist (but not too much).
dgritsko | 16 hours ago
fabianlindfors | 15 hours ago
creativeembassy | 14 hours ago
https://paseo.sh/
ashiban | 13 hours ago
[0] https://www.projectcodename.dev/access
mksadoughi | 10 hours ago
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phildenhoff | 16 hours ago
I started using Conductor in January this year and it was a great tool - Charlie and the team knocked it out of the park. I only migrated to Orca when I needed better multi-machine control, and remote control, but these tools are a dime-a-dozen now. I'm not sure that if I was hunting for a new tool today that I'd pick up Orca. Maybe Herdr? or Stencil's Tern?
All that to say - they built a great product with great UX. Looking forward to seeing what they build next at Meta!
green-frog-445 | 15 hours ago
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redanddead | 13 hours ago
They ruin innovation top down and bottom up at the same time
jerpint | an hour ago
I built it for myself as a dev who loves tmux and vim and who was very unsatisfied with the typical agent orchestration experience. You should check it out! The biggest advantage is you bring your coding agents to woltspace, not the other way around.
[0] https://github.com/jerpint/woltspace
trcf23 | 16 hours ago
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iamunr | 16 hours ago
And today we're doing a refund + moving the org to t3.codes instead.
Boo Meta. Boooooooo.
paaloeye | 16 hours ago
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dregitsky | 9 hours ago
You might want to do a quick eval of all the products in the space vs your org's needs! There are a lot of options now, and T3 isn't really a drop-in replacement for Conductor if you wanted the cloud setup.
Specifically T3's great for local, but for cloud they don't host anything - you just run their server on your own machine / VM. Which works ok, esp if you prefer full self-hosted, but then parallel agents still share a machine and need worktrees for isolation. Conductor Cloud actually eliminated worktrees by giving each workspace its own VM with a dev environment preloaded - which is the same approach we (and a few others) are taking.
chrisvalleybay | 4 hours ago
Also - if you are a developer/SWE this 'keep your laptop closed' thing with these control planes is mostly hype. I'd place my bets on something like Rex (https://www.superlogical.com/) instead.
jerpint | 57 minutes ago
[0] https://github.com/jerpint/woltspace
gdulli | 16 hours ago
gosen | 16 hours ago
jahala | 16 hours ago
I'll prolly have claude reverse engineer conductor over the next month so the show can go on ...
mikigraf | 16 hours ago
fabianlindfors | 15 hours ago
For cloud agents I just built plugins in bb for boat.dev and smolmachines.com. Works like a charm.
hoakiet98 | 14 hours ago
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roopakv | 14 hours ago
95% of all my sessions are on boxes. Initially, the draw was just a remote box that I could control on mobile, but some of the features they have added recently, like coordinating child sessions, are wildly good.
I know there are new startups in this space every day, so what tipped things for me was that the team is so responsive and ships features in the matter of hours.
stryakr | 14 hours ago
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jahala | 14 hours ago
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Edit:
Surprise, surprise - I'm launching a new open source project: "Conducted" (not affiliated with, or to be confused with any similar brands) Conducted is MIT license, and will remain open source until hell has frozen over.
Looking for contributors ;) .. Feel free to give it a star, throw some agents in its direction.
https://github.com/jahala/conducted
slopinthebag | 6 hours ago
Charlieholtz | 16 hours ago
The whole team is around to help answer any questions. You can reach out to me personally at charlie [at] melty.sh.
jahala | 16 hours ago
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adam-eclse | 16 hours ago
Hopefully Meta does something good with your team's talent and technology, but regardless, it was a huge productivity boost for me and I really appreciate that. Good luck to you and your team at Meta!
kylecazar | 13 hours ago
This made me laugh. The world is different now. Congrats!
999900000999 | 13 hours ago
Congratulations, getting an exit in a bit over a year is very very good
temp123477 | 13 hours ago
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jasonjmcghee | 10 hours ago
sksum | 8 hours ago
Consider Open Sourcing the core/app
apsurd | 6 hours ago
Anyway, for anyone reading, just a not developer-led products. How do they do it?!
gadders | 2 hours ago
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2001zhaozhao | 16 hours ago
(I am building my own tool in this area and I literally downloaded and tried all of them as market research)
isege | 16 hours ago
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fabioz | 16 hours ago
Disclaimer: I'm developing it.
hmokiguess | 16 hours ago
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twalla | 13 hours ago
- paseo: open, mobile app is a first class citizen, i've been happy with it
- orca: vc backed, featureful (built in ios sim, for example)
- herdr: vc backed, terminal native, im sure there are more features since i last checked it
- t3: open, never used it but folks seem to like it
nwparker | 13 hours ago
I work on Orca and we're shipping frequently.
Let us know if you have feedback! (MIT OSS)
mchusma | 13 hours ago
Very happy I switched. I’m extremely productive on mobile. It defiiitely feels power usery but i am one so it works great.
My only gripe is sometimes it loses connections to workspaces in a way that is hard to recover BUT the meta conductor living on top can resolve it for me. Kudos for having it.
nwparker | 12 hours ago
j1mc | 11 hours ago
Thank you for your consideration and for your work.
umbra07 | an hour ago
If a dev is only going to choose one, I'd much rather they ship an AppImage.
FriendlyMike | 13 hours ago
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cute_boi | 16 hours ago
I will avoid Meta and Google as much as possible.
leofree | 16 hours ago
6thbit | 15 hours ago
But I think within claude code and codex subagent support has improved a lot lately and it doesn't seem this would improve that much over that native support if you only use one provider.
adam-eclse | 15 hours ago
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adam-eclse | 13 hours ago
doublerabbit | 16 hours ago
Why did you sell out?
2001zhaozhao | 16 hours ago
adam-eclse | 15 hours ago
The other reality is, there are now good free alternatives to Conductor (I haven't tried them so we will see) - it does suck if you feel very tied to your existing workflow, but I also think about it from the level of 'these people gave me something for free that helped me a lot, and I want things to work out well for them'.
xenospn | 12 hours ago
signatoremo | 12 hours ago
Users chose them knowing full well the risks.
Build a product with paid customers, then you can choose not to sell out.
doublerabbit | 38 minutes ago
And thanks for the projection. I have a product with paid customers and I refuse to sell out. The project sinks with me.
gepeake | 16 hours ago
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williamdclt | 16 hours ago
> why sellout your company and your customers and community?
Why not? Do you think this is a heart project, that the founders have a personal passion for agent orchestration somehow? They're not curing cancer or supporting orphans, most companies are created to make money, that's how our economic system works (for better or worse, but I'm not going to blame individuals or be surprised about it).
"community"... Come on. There's customers, there's no community here.
0c3ca83 | 12 hours ago
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stevenou | 16 hours ago
Does anyone have suggestions for products that can match Conductor Cloud, not just Conductor Local?
217 | 16 hours ago
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hoakiet98 | 14 hours ago
dregitsky | 13 hours ago
stevenou | 11 hours ago
dregitsky | 10 hours ago
nwparker | 13 hours ago
Why? We let you bring your own cloud (versus being locked in).
You can bring a local cloud, sandboxes, or whatever you'd like
We even launched community plugins this week for VM/sandboxes (our you can have your own internal plugin)
https://www.onorca.dev/plugins?kind=machines
ibrahima | 11 hours ago
boudra | 10 hours ago
flessio | 9 hours ago
We like the web + mobile app orientation (available without an app store!) along with the high degree of control.
Anyone moved between Paseo and T3? Curious to hear what motivated you in either direction.
217 | 15 hours ago
ChrisArchitect | 15 hours ago
SethSchilbe | 15 hours ago
Would highly recommend it for anyone looking for an alternative with Conductor shutting down.
Strongbad536 | 14 hours ago
Very happy to see the team get a happy ending/landing!
dbmikus | 14 hours ago
I've been working on a startup in the "private networks + VMs for agents" space, so I'm always trying to learn how people run their current setups.
bqsile | 14 hours ago
steve_adams_86 | 7 hours ago
mushufasa | 14 hours ago
inshard | 14 hours ago
jader201 | 14 hours ago
maherbeg | 14 hours ago
vadepaysa | 14 hours ago
mgw | 14 hours ago
I personally never thought Conductor was that great, so I built my own with https://podium.do.
What I was missing was a built-in task system so more complex tasks can be split up by the agents. And running agents on my own machines of course.
jahala | 13 hours ago
mgw | 2 hours ago
Interesting idea, but we find task data is too high throughput to put into git. I assume with the new crop of DVCSs that can handle much more volume this might change.
Raed667 | 13 hours ago
dgritsko | 13 hours ago
oxfordmale | 13 hours ago
rsamtravis | 13 hours ago
szymeo | 9 hours ago
cantalopes | 12 hours ago
stevage | 12 hours ago
...
> Friday, Nov 20
> Conductor Cloud shuts down
> We begin deleting Conductor Cloud user data. Please export your data before this date.
Oh yeah, gonna love that!
imagetic | 12 hours ago
qmr | 11 hours ago
calmworm | 11 hours ago
roskoes | 9 hours ago
motatoes | 9 hours ago
disclosure: I am one of the founders
gejose | 9 hours ago
BowBun | 9 hours ago
realcul | 8 hours ago
lonexa | 9 hours ago
brainless | 9 hours ago
There is literally no moat in most software expect the users a product has acquired. The number of slightly different solution to an existing product is wild. And this is getting crazier. I build for the fun of it now. Completely lost any sight of $ goals.
I am building agents, have own gui framework, own server orchestration, and now looking at deploying multi-app servers using unikernels. I build for my niche audience and make them happy - I am going via my existing clients who are in the property management domain. Non technical folks who have to handle everything from inspection to finance. My ideal type of folks.
I am sure by the time I build my end to end agent/orchestration/deployment/management system, I will have some customers and many more clones. Slightly different clones. This is the future. Why would anyone acquire anything?
They need my prompts, not my tech.
sksum | 8 hours ago
I feel its less about the tech and more about the stage Meta and Conductor are in, right now
brainless | 8 hours ago
Sure they had a lot of growth but when there are a 100 alternatives, each offering something a bit different, then user bleed is natural.
Meta, Google and all big co will spend more $ short-term to buy and they will continue to bleed till the new playbook sets in the minds of execs.
sksum | 7 hours ago
both acquihires and products will get cheaper, could the new playbook be the OG marketplace ?
potamic | 7 hours ago
chrisgarand | 5 hours ago
I don't see a Muse desktop app, this gives them something they can spin up in a few weeks, not months, with native cloud integration. I'd guess we're going to see a product competing with OpenAi/Anthropic (as far as standalone apps are concerned) by January.
brainless | 5 hours ago
I do not know where people are lost these days. I build ambitious apps with 3x $20 subscriptions. And I live in a village in eastern Himalayas. People are really in a bubble.
LLMs have crushed the idea of "using [another product] to jumpstart" anything. Just build it.
coded_monkey | 3 hours ago
brainless | 2 hours ago
https://github.com/brainless/nocodo, https://github.com/brainless/dwata, https://github.com/brainless/akar, https://github.com/brainless/baho
All these and more, from a single engineer with 3 x $20 subscriptions. While I also run chicken and pig farms. It will take time for people outside tech hubs to understand what LLMs enable.
cgio | 2 hours ago
walthamstow | 4 hours ago
altmanaltman | 6 hours ago
brainless | 5 hours ago
Raising money was not an indicator of value before LLMs but it helped a lot. I have been tech lead of a couple US based seed-funded startups and I definitely see the value.
But most software has no intrinsic hard engineering these days. A few do. Companies raise money because they feel they will grow into a large user-base. Then, either make money or get acquired. Where is "value" here? Its VC-speak all the way.
Privately funded AI labs in the US are buying, yes. I highly doubt this trend will go on when the return on investment starts fading. There is momentum in executives. The "value" is how they used to see things. Takes time to update.
g_host56 | 9 hours ago
nice to get paid by meta, but cmmon read the room.
beshard | 8 hours ago
markush_ | 8 hours ago
habosa | 8 hours ago
> Conductor Cloud goes read-only on November 13 and shuts down on November 20.
3 sentences later
> Add your own completion sounds in Settings → General. Pick a sound file, name it, and choose it like any other sound.
If you're shutting down in *9 days* I really don't care that you added custom sound effects.
crabmusket | 7 hours ago
crystaln | 4 hours ago
I switched to Paseo long ago because of its full featured mobile app, local client server architecture, and open sourcedness. Conductor began to feel stale, pricey, and understandably but annoying for me moving toward enterprise.
user- | 3 hours ago
Its crazy how fast the tech field is moving
juanre | 2 hours ago
dewey | 2 hours ago
I guess that's the kick I needed to dig into the alternatives.
mattmaroon | an hour ago
pavlov | an hour ago
At least that's what I did.
nickfmatthews | 54 minutes ago
It seems like it's got a lot of utility for my team and I, but jesus
jon-wood | 41 minutes ago
fnoef | 52 minutes ago
wolfi1 | 40 minutes ago
julesrms | 13 minutes ago
No sign-up required - the angle I'm taking is that juggler is a client-server architecture, and if you want cloud VM sessions, you just spin up your own server and run a juggler server process on there. Its GUI is identical whether it's a local or remote session.
(I'd never actually heard of conductor, but interesting to see that people do want that kind of managed cloud backend server. I might think about the logistics of offering that)
And I promise to never sell-out to Meta[1].
[1] Nah, of course I would if they offered me a really huge amount of money.