The term dates from the 90s at least. It's not a new term and I don't think we should stop using it just because the orange one has taken a liking to it.
Prediction: One or two big companies will use it for reasons of scoring political points with the administration. Everyone else will ignore it and mock those who use it.
As for me: Like it or not, Trump is my president. He's not my dictator, and he's not my technical dictionary. I'll use what terms I like. He doesn't get to tell me which terms to use (the First Amendment is on my side in this one.)
And I consider AI to be both more accurate and more established than SI, so I'll call it AI. And, as I said, I suspect that most people will do the same.
There are many good reasons for an American to be deeply embarrassed by this administration. The push to normalize the term "Super Intelligence", while not highly consequential, is a deeply silly, juvenile, and therefore embarrassing move, emblematic of the lack of thoughtfulness with which the current government makes decisions. It's also utterly tone-deaf and fails to even pay lip-service to the legitimate concerns that many citizens have about the impact of AI on their lives.
process information and generate an output is really enough. A calculator is mentioned in Wikipedia as being an AI technology, and we feared students would no longer learn and understand calculus and the people who worked as Computers at companies would lose that job. Only one of both came true, and the math nerds still get a job at different tasks with a different title.
Okay, now no one can add numbers at scale since Excel exists and calculates at the accuracy limits of a counter-top calculator. But in theory, spreadsheets can be intelligent solving tools.
It's the drawing of conclusions where I see the intelligence. The other two steps are the input and output mechanisms - I deliberately avoided the mention of what sensors would be used or how the actions would be carried out.
A calculator does not draw conclusions. Neither does excel - it just passes variables through a tree of if and while statements - the developer drew the conclusions when he wrote the excel formulae. Same with e.g. a PERL script.
Intelligence would be, having voted for the mango Mussolini three times against your own interests, that you’d wake up and change your vote the fourth time.
Super Intelligence would be not having voted for him at all.
Calling it to super intelligence is a commitment to never fix K12 education.
Why bother educating people when a "super intelligence" exists to do all the thinking? "Artificial" intelligence, sure, it's artificial not the real thing, so we still need people. But "super" intelligence? That language puts it above human intelligence, and intentionally diminishes humanity with their mere normal intelligence.
(FWIW putting a dilettante and then wrestling mogul in charge of the Department of Education and gutting it was also a commitment to never fix K12 education, so this is not new)
Feels like sunk cost fallacy. Clearly US is so far behind in human facing concerns so might as well not waste any more of the precious resources. Let’s just double down on investing in the prosperity few rich armed with super intelligent robots and maybe they’ll solve the problem by accelerating the pace of making the rest of the world so much worse that this comparison is over once and for all.
Does this depend on the state you live in? A K-12 education in Massachusetts is different from K-12 education in Alabama to me. Although I am guessing this is an overall statement about the US.
This feels like the eternal fallacy of US metrics. You have good states, and bad states, and everyone’s judged on the lowest denominator.
Massachusetts- 99% have healthcare, longer lifespan than most developed nations, top US education system, diverse economy, wealthiest population, strong safety net, high minimum wage, safe communities w low gun violence, net provider of federal tax revenue, etc
I still prefer AI; it's better. The SI is just another way of taking ppl's money with domain names. few weeks before the announcement. Most amazing one-word .si domains were already taken. Now they are being sold for 3, 4, or even 5 figures. Keep it AI. Keep it simple!
There's an ongoing race to build capabilities and there's a race to understand, control, and align these systems. If we rush too far ahead in the first race, we face disaster. That's why so many people working at the leading American companies signed the pacing the frontier letter.
> If we rush too far ahead in the first race, we face disaster. That's why so many people working at the leading American companies signed the pacing the frontier letter.
They're after regulatory capture, disadvantaging competition.
OpenAI and Anthropic have collectively spent tens of billions of dollars, with their annual burn rates climbing rapidly, for something that increasingly commoditized at the non-frontier (i.e. MOST) applications.
That doesn't mean there aren't ALSO people who are worried that we will kills ourselves with AI, but they are in the minority.
Putting aside the political ideas, I find the website pretty cool!
It looks more like the kind of thing a web designer or demoscener would put up to show off his productions than a government website about a hot political topic.
Its cool, but too many distracting things which makes it a bit difficult to read. Specifically the bounce effect, is a bit disorienting to view on a large screen.
i'm pretty sure the branding is just to filter anyone that isn't loyal to trump, anyone that doesn't agree with the new term is easily identified then slowly set aside.
That explains, not just this, but many other things - the absurd, indefensible statements that are still defended, the court cases, the denial of election losses, and probably more that don't come to mind after five seconds of thought.
This is also close to the authoritarian "make people say absurd things as a demonstration of power over them" playbook.
This is exactly what it is for. Fascism deploys hypocrisy very deliberately for exactly this reason. If you conform, it's a signal you will continue to conform to the admins policies. Push it until it's silly. People willing to look the fool, but remain loyal, are valuable to the admin.
They do this (at least at first) to pull people out of their staff who would slow them down or fight them. Then they expand the scope, where they hope to reach the entire population.
While I wait for my mail in ballot to be delivered, which is taking a suspiciously long time, while the President, who has already ben impeached for one visible and overt coup attempt, has specifically ordered the USPS not to deliver them on either side, this is a good place to note to you, that he has also declared anyone who doesn’t call it super intelligence to be THE ENEMY, in all caps.
Careful there. Seeing contradictions and mistakes made by your dear leader may not be as good of an idea as you it sounds. For the only reason that nobody would lift their ass to do anything else but raise their grave concerns over yet another violation of civil conduct by offending parties, which will probably not help to ones suffering from such.
Yes, but who told you the GP was in that camp? Speaking from experience, plenty of people on the left thought the whole master branch, the pronouns or (even worse) whitelist thing to be insane.
How did we end up here. Even Super Cringe can't possibly describe this administration and this unhinged con man and the money behind him who have been granted excessive powers by an irresponsible Supreme Court and are enshitifying everything about our nation. Super Intelligence.
I doubt the members of the Court that granted effective total immunity to the executive (which a sole member found profoundly wrong) are "uneducated" and perceptible to propaganda. That the masses are led by nose is SOP in every country, without exception.
I’ve come to think that’s really more of a symptom than a cause. People more and more seem to have brains made of old dry wood. The lack of education, propaganda, ads, attention problems, electoral disaster and everything else in this metaphor is like the termites who crawl in and dig holes in it; they wouldn’t be there if the tree hadn’t fallen to decay.
The question isn't whether you will, it's which corporations jump on this. Google jumped on Gulf of America and Lake America. Will they now start calling Gemini an SI model?
It's true in general, but I just don't understand how Google can't see where this is going. He's going order a renaming that's so stupid they can't go through with it - he's floated the "Trump Ocean" - and then their punishment will be much more severe with much less defense from the rest of us than if they'd taken a stand in the first place.
From what I’ve been told, this is like back in the 1990’s when the US collectively decided to outsource manufacturing to other countries via coordinated action between the government and industry. The motivation was too boost profits. Here we are today, our manufacturing base gutted and a lot of hard working Americans left with nothing. AI is the same thing, except it’s going after our high paying jobs and collective knowledge. So our future again will be one will less good jobs for hard working people, but also one where knowledge is much less valuable.
Unfortunately, it's easy to recognise that there's a systematic class war (between the property-owning classes and the rest), but the balance of power is so skewed that knowing about it doesn't particularly help. I suppose the problem is also that a lot of the poorer people actively vote and work to help the property-owners even though it's completely against their interests.
AI is the correct term because it describes "what" it is (artificial, not natural intelligence). SI describes the magnitude and is no doubt meant as marketing, which then invites different prefixes over time ("ultra intelligence", etc.), creating consumer confusion.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. Here is his exact quote:
"The use of the word 'artificial' makes intelligence fake. It makes it sound fake and it is not fake. It’s actually amazing, but we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports."
I see people just skip over the part where "intelligence" is uncomfortably difficult to define and may not be a generally coherent concept to begin with.
The correct term is "chatbot" in most cases. I've witnessed people make dumb decisions somewhat blindly because "AI" recommended it. If they had called it a chatbot maybe some skepticism would have kicked in.
... and it has never meant "just anything that could be called AI", or even "just anything that could be called AGI".
What we have here with Trump is properly known as "superstupidity": a degree of stupidity that is at best metastable in any physical system, and eventually collapses upward to the intelligence ground state, which is roughly the intelligence of the vaccum.
They're aiming for more stupidity that Idiocracy as their president (in Idiocracy) realised that asking the "most intelligent" person to help solve their problems was a good idea.
AFI, American Freedom Intelligence. Mark my words, dumb people will use that, soon, since ASI/SI is actually the same term by just lazily leaving of a redundant part of the term.
Trump is flailing, and desperate to build a legacy. This SI nonsense is his take at the Al Gore Internet thing. I'm just surprised he didn't shoehorn in "Trump".
wait, we need more than one future ruler of earth? Won't any two Skynets fight each other for control, which is why the US want to be first, not second, after PRC?
Several frontier AI labs are already using the term "superintelligence" publicly, and some are increasingly positioning it as their ultimate objective rather than simply "artificial intelligence."
Yes, and by "superintelligence", they mean something smarter than all humans in all or nearly all ways, and capable of making itself even smarter until it reaches physical limits.
Artificial intelligence is a term that is not related to level of intelligence but the source of it not from biological humans. It can not be replaced.
Money for the Genesis Mission is coming out of science budgets. Given how damaging this funding for Artificial Intelligence as been for US science, can't wait to see what Super Intelligence funding does to it.
It's sad to me that the entire canon of "brilliant moves" available to business people are essentially strategies for designing dystopian outcomes at a massive scale. This is probably not fully the case, but disproportionately this seems to be what is called "brilliant" in that field
Zuckerberg's also been calling it that for like a year now and has applied to own .superintelligence. ICANN's application deadline was over a month before the Executive Order got signed.
This is such a terrible term. How about not going all the way and calling it super intelligence to make it totally clear that humans are on the way out?
What a website. It looks exactly like Emperor's new invisible clothes. Someone weaved it carefully so that the emperor can't question it. If the Emperor questions it, then the website would question the emperor's intelligence.
They have constructed an amazing shibboleth. You can immediately determine if someone is poisoned by partisanship if they use "SI". If they use "AI", who knows. But "SI" use is a strong indicator someone has left reason behind in favor of "my team can do no wrong."
Bullies love to force people weaker than themselves do pointless acts like this, just to reassure themselves that they have power over them. I imagine that once enough companies have capitulated to this nonsense, he'll then decide it should become "American Intelligence"
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[0] How Long Before Superintelligence? (1997) https://nickbostrom.com/papers/how-long-before-superintellig...
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As for me: Like it or not, Trump is my president. He's not my dictator, and he's not my technical dictionary. I'll use what terms I like. He doesn't get to tell me which terms to use (the First Amendment is on my side in this one.)
And I consider AI to be both more accurate and more established than SI, so I'll call it AI. And, as I said, I suspect that most people will do the same.
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Wait til you get the Trump Ocean (formerly Pacific Ocean), and the America Ocean (formerly Atlantic).
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I'm proud to claim that I wrote that before the idea of "agents" was invented.
a3w | 9 hours ago
Okay, now no one can add numbers at scale since Excel exists and calculates at the accuracy limits of a counter-top calculator. But in theory, spreadsheets can be intelligent solving tools.
dotancohen | 9 hours ago
A calculator does not draw conclusions. Neither does excel - it just passes variables through a tree of if and while statements - the developer drew the conclusions when he wrote the excel formulae. Same with e.g. a PERL script.
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phs318u | an hour ago
Super Intelligence would be not having voted for him at all.
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Why bother educating people when a "super intelligence" exists to do all the thinking? "Artificial" intelligence, sure, it's artificial not the real thing, so we still need people. But "super" intelligence? That language puts it above human intelligence, and intentionally diminishes humanity with their mere normal intelligence.
(FWIW putting a dilettante and then wrestling mogul in charge of the Department of Education and gutting it was also a commitment to never fix K12 education, so this is not new)
AnimalMuppet | 9 hours ago
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Massachusetts- 99% have healthcare, longer lifespan than most developed nations, top US education system, diverse economy, wealthiest population, strong safety net, high minimum wage, safe communities w low gun violence, net provider of federal tax revenue, etc
Alabama - best bet is to start driving north now
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Understand that and a lot of the behavior of this administration makes sense.
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andsoitis | 9 hours ago
They're after regulatory capture, disadvantaging competition.
OpenAI and Anthropic have collectively spent tens of billions of dollars, with their annual burn rates climbing rapidly, for something that increasingly commoditized at the non-frontier (i.e. MOST) applications.
That doesn't mean there aren't ALSO people who are worried that we will kills ourselves with AI, but they are in the minority.
GuB-42 | 9 hours ago
It looks more like the kind of thing a web designer or demoscener would put up to show off his productions than a government website about a hot political topic.
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AnimalMuppet | 9 hours ago
This is also close to the authoritarian "make people say absurd things as a demonstration of power over them" playbook.
causesothere | 5 hours ago
They do this (at least at first) to pull people out of their staff who would slow them down or fight them. Then they expand the scope, where they hope to reach the entire population.
hyperhello | 9 hours ago
hackyhacky | 9 hours ago
Don't "overt" and "visible" mean the same thing in this context?
margalabargala | 9 hours ago
pentaphobe | 8 hours ago
Just like it can be overt and invisible
AnimalMuppet | 9 hours ago
WesolyKubeczek | 9 hours ago
Ain’t that what the so-called woke pussies do? Inventing words and declaring all who won’t adopt them enemies?
Oh how the turntables turn…
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andsoitis | 9 hours ago
> Ain’t that what the so-called woke pussies do? Inventing words and declaring all who won’t adopt them enemies? > Oh how the turntables turn…
Do you think that maybe this is an "American" (culture) disease? Not a right/left thing?
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andsoitis | 9 hours ago
What state / city are you in?
Mine arrived more than a week ago.
api | 8 hours ago
Gotta commit to the bit.
Our country is now a "bit," one that unfortunately kills people. This timeline sucks.
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This vote is critical.
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You might as well try to unilaterally rename one of the Great Lakes.
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Outside of the US, it's still shown by the actual name, with the "local name" shown in parentheses.
It's a very complicated topic, it's just that in stable countries/regions, you don't tend to have direct contact with it.
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Conflicts are most often won not by the stronger side, but by the side which recognises first that the conflict exists.
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(Even then a donation to the ballroom will cover any incidents where members of your board slip up and forget their good intentions)
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It's emperor!
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"The use of the word 'artificial' makes intelligence fake. It makes it sound fake and it is not fake. It’s actually amazing, but we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports."
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sixtyj | 5 hours ago
Let’s ask chat(bot) vs let’s ask super intelligence - it is a different game.
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What we have here with Trump is properly known as "superstupidity": a degree of stupidity that is at best metastable in any physical system, and eventually collapses upward to the intelligence ground state, which is roughly the intelligence of the vaccum.
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wait, we need more than one future ruler of earth? Won't any two Skynets fight each other for control, which is why the US want to be first, not second, after PRC?
croes | 9 hours ago
Race for not race of?
So it means they still didn’t reach Super Intelligence, which means Super Intelligence is the new name of AGI means AI is still AI.
NicoJuicy | 9 hours ago
What else?
amelius | 9 hours ago
What a joke. Maybe we should ask ChatGPT about a few of his "alternative facts".
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ICE is still getting started. So, USA will be in the running to compete with Nazi Germany and North Korea, etc.
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- https://openai.com/index/introducing-superalignment/
- https://openai.com/index/governance-of-superintelligence/
NVIDIA examples:
- https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/lp/ai/physical-ai-open-world-fo...
- https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/on-demand/session/gtcdc25-dc510...
Anthropic examples:
- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-superintelligence-anthropic-...
- https://futureoflife.org/statement/statement-anthropic-warns...
Hizonner | 4 hours ago
They do not mean "any LLM chatbot"
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Joe needs to stop vibecoding so much.
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What a nice surprise, and here I thought we'd be using inches and feet forever. SI system here we come.
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Bullies love to force people weaker than themselves do pointless acts like this, just to reassure themselves that they have power over them. I imagine that once enough companies have capitulated to this nonsense, he'll then decide it should become "American Intelligence"
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Bill2Lewis | an hour ago
Yet another rename attempt from the man who can't spell AI.