The recent surge in missile attacks comes as Ukraine runs short of air defense ammunition, leaving the country virtually defenseless against the Kremlin’s ballistic blitz. Russian President Vladimir Putin clearly aims to exploit Ukraine’s vulnerability and bomb the country into submission.
Ukraine’s only effective protection against Russian ballistic missiles is the US-made Patriot air defense system. However, the country’s Patriot interceptor missile stocks have now been almost entirely depleted, while Kyiv’s efforts to secure fresh supplies are currently failing.
Possibilities:
The situation is increasingly dire. Some measures that could reduce the destruction and, above all, protect civilian lives:
• Move civilian life underground. Rapidly expand permanent underground shelters into usable living areas, schools, clinics, communications centers, and other essential services.
• Harden and disperse civilian infrastructure. Protect and duplicate power, water, heating, communications, hospitals, and emergency services so that individual strikes do less harm.
• Create extensive decoy or "ghost" targets. Give Russian targeting systems large numbers of convincing false military, industrial, radar, storage, and infrastructure targets on which to waste expensive missiles.
• Confuse missile targeting and guidance. Use electronic warfare, camouflage, obscuration, decoys, altered visual signatures, relocation, and other defensive deception so that even missiles penetrating air defenses are increasingly likely to strike the wrong place.
• Move essential production underground or disperse it. Defense production, repair facilities, ammunition storage, and communications should become progressively harder to locate and destroy.
• Expand direct European defense of Ukrainian airspace. European fighters could intercept drones and cruise missiles, while European ground-based systems help defend against more difficult threats.
• Reserve scarce Patriot-class interceptors for ballistic missiles. Use aircraft, electronic warfare, guns, and less expensive systems against drones and cruise missiles whenever possible.
• Find and destroy ballistic missiles before launch. Concentrate allied satellite, airborne, signals, and Ukrainian reconnaissance capabilities on launchers, missile concentrations, storage, and supporting infrastructure.
• Target the vulnerabilities of the North Korean missile supply. Imported missiles, their limited launchers, transport routes, storage, support equipment, and personnel may be more vulnerable before they disperse.
• Deny Russian forces advanced communications while preserving Ukrainian access. Systems such as Starlink should remain unavailable to Russian forces while authenticated Ukrainian military use is protected and, where possible, expanded.
• Deny Russia access to foreign satellite technology and services, civilian as well as military. Suspend commercial satellite communications, imagery, navigation support, terminals, components, technical services, and related foreign-provided capabilities available inside Russia. Close third-country channels used to circumvent these restrictions. This would constitute a major technological sanction intended to increase the economic and operational cost of continuing the war.
The central principle should be simple: protect the people first, make real targets harder to destroy, create many false targets, confuse enemy targeting, destroy missiles before they fly, and intercept what remains.
First of all we were not going to become a member of NATO. No one would let us. Nearly 10 years passed between 2014 and 2022 with no results. NATO didn't want us. NATO didn't even want to help us. In 2021 we had zero NATO tanks, jets, artillery, SPGs, ships, anti air missiles. Nothing.
In reality Putin doesn't care about NATO.
Putin publicly said years ago that Ukraine can join NATO if they want. That Baltics joining NATO is not a threat and he has no problem with Finland, a country 2 hours away from his hometown joining. By 2010s NATO has been the weakest it has been historically. It wasn't posing a threat to Russia.
Putin treats Ukraine as a breakaway province. He even did a circus act of inviting the head of the constitutional court of the Russian Federation (same importance as US Supreme Court) and letting him show an map of Europe without Ukraine to prove it's fakeness. His state media is pushing a narrative to his internal audience that Ukraine shouldn't exist. I heard sentences like: "Why do we have to eradicate Ukrainian men? To make the dismemberment of the country easier." Got that video saved somewhere saved on my pc. Another example: US government just published transcripts from his conversations with George W Bush. Putin said that Ukrainian independence was unthinkable. The reason I know all of this is that I speak fluent Russian and can actually check what Russins say and said over the years.
Before the war Sholz promised Putin that Ukraine won't be able to join it in next 40 years. Putin still attacked. When Putin's aide Kozak made a deal with Ukraine that it won't be joining NATO Putin refused and invaded. Kozak was fired. Then Zelenskyy told the nation that there's no chance they will join NATO and it's time to admit it. No reaction from Russia.
NATO expansion arguments come into play when Russian state seeds discord in the West.
Putin WANTS you to think "NATO expansion" concerns him because it gives him benefit of a doubt that he's got pragmatic reasons for his war.
>Putin WANTS you to think "NATO expansion" concerns him because it gives him benefit of a doubt that he's got pragmatic reasons for his war.
:eyeroll:
I'm basing my opinion on what US diplomats and generals have said since 1992. (Which happens to match what Russian diplomats and generals said. I think some Brits, too.)
EDIT: When ya'll wake up and stop letting the establishment lie to you, us others will welcome you.
My bookmarks are a mess, and you're asking me to go through 4 years of them. And you prob won't be convinced anyway, because you've been drinking the koolaid for that time or you're paid to be here.
But I'll put this here:
>Glenn Diesen with General Harald Kujat: Former Head of German Army Exposes Ukraine War Lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-pWvv--FM [interview translated]
>> General Harald Kujat is a former head of the German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) and the former Chairman of NATO's Military Committee. Having held the top military position in both Germany and NATO, General Kujat offers his expertise on how the West and Russia ended up fighting a proxy war in Ukraine. General Kujat discusses the failure to reach a common understanding after the Cold War, the toppling of President Yanukovych in Ukraine, the sabotage of the Minsk agreement and the Istanbul peace negotiations, and the West's lies about an "unprovoked" and "full-scale invasion" of Ukraine.
>> When Boris Johnson came to Ukraine to sabotage the peace negotiations in 2022, one of Zelensky's close associates summed up the essence of Johnson's visit: "Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. We can sign [an agreement] with you [Ukraine], but not with him. Anyway, he will screw everyone over". The essence of General Kujat's position is that the war could have been prevented and could have been ended shortly after it began or in the course of its further development. It cannot be denied or disputed that Russia has started a war that violates international law.
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EDIT: And I'll add this:
the 88% of the world's population living outside the West can see through what he describes as the West's moral posturing,.... (Singaporean scholar Kishore Mahbubani,
[OP] D-R-AZ | 16 days ago
Ukraine cannot defeat Putin’s ballistic blitz by defensive measures alone
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-cannot-defeat-putins-ballistic-blitz-by-defensive-measures-alone/
Excerpts:
The recent surge in missile attacks comes as Ukraine runs short of air defense ammunition, leaving the country virtually defenseless against the Kremlin’s ballistic blitz. Russian President Vladimir Putin clearly aims to exploit Ukraine’s vulnerability and bomb the country into submission.
Ukraine’s only effective protection against Russian ballistic missiles is the US-made Patriot air defense system. However, the country’s Patriot interceptor missile stocks have now been almost entirely depleted, while Kyiv’s efforts to secure fresh supplies are currently failing.
Possibilities:
The situation is increasingly dire. Some measures that could reduce the destruction and, above all, protect civilian lives:
• Move civilian life underground. Rapidly expand permanent underground shelters into usable living areas, schools, clinics, communications centers, and other essential services.
• Harden and disperse civilian infrastructure. Protect and duplicate power, water, heating, communications, hospitals, and emergency services so that individual strikes do less harm.
• Create extensive decoy or "ghost" targets. Give Russian targeting systems large numbers of convincing false military, industrial, radar, storage, and infrastructure targets on which to waste expensive missiles.
• Confuse missile targeting and guidance. Use electronic warfare, camouflage, obscuration, decoys, altered visual signatures, relocation, and other defensive deception so that even missiles penetrating air defenses are increasingly likely to strike the wrong place.
• Move essential production underground or disperse it. Defense production, repair facilities, ammunition storage, and communications should become progressively harder to locate and destroy.
• Expand direct European defense of Ukrainian airspace. European fighters could intercept drones and cruise missiles, while European ground-based systems help defend against more difficult threats.
• Reserve scarce Patriot-class interceptors for ballistic missiles. Use aircraft, electronic warfare, guns, and less expensive systems against drones and cruise missiles whenever possible.
• Find and destroy ballistic missiles before launch. Concentrate allied satellite, airborne, signals, and Ukrainian reconnaissance capabilities on launchers, missile concentrations, storage, and supporting infrastructure.
• Target the vulnerabilities of the North Korean missile supply. Imported missiles, their limited launchers, transport routes, storage, support equipment, and personnel may be more vulnerable before they disperse.
• Deny Russian forces advanced communications while preserving Ukrainian access. Systems such as Starlink should remain unavailable to Russian forces while authenticated Ukrainian military use is protected and, where possible, expanded.
• Deny Russia access to foreign satellite technology and services, civilian as well as military. Suspend commercial satellite communications, imagery, navigation support, terminals, components, technical services, and related foreign-provided capabilities available inside Russia. Close third-country channels used to circumvent these restrictions. This would constitute a major technological sanction intended to increase the economic and operational cost of continuing the war.
• Reduce future Russian missile production. Tighten restrictions on electronics, machine tools, guidance components, and third-country supply routes supporting missile manufacture.
The central principle should be simple: protect the people first, make real targets harder to destroy, create many false targets, confuse enemy targeting, destroy missiles before they fly, and intercept what remains.
cletusthearistocrat | 16 days ago
Give them at least double of the same they give.
gorpie97 | 16 days ago
I have a better solution! Sign a peace treaty! And somehow ensure (ha!) that Ukraine will never join NATO.
SMWW66 | 16 days ago
Idiotic idea, the sooner Ukraine joins NATO, the better. Fuck Russia
gorpie97 | 16 days ago
Only if you believe the Western establishment narrative.
The US/NATO made this happen.
EDIT: Including disrupting a peace deal Ukraine & Russia were about to sign in April 2022.
Poonis5 | 16 days ago
First of all we were not going to become a member of NATO. No one would let us. Nearly 10 years passed between 2014 and 2022 with no results. NATO didn't want us. NATO didn't even want to help us. In 2021 we had zero NATO tanks, jets, artillery, SPGs, ships, anti air missiles. Nothing.
In reality Putin doesn't care about NATO.
Putin publicly said years ago that Ukraine can join NATO if they want. That Baltics joining NATO is not a threat and he has no problem with Finland, a country 2 hours away from his hometown joining. By 2010s NATO has been the weakest it has been historically. It wasn't posing a threat to Russia.
Putin treats Ukraine as a breakaway province. He even did a circus act of inviting the head of the constitutional court of the Russian Federation (same importance as US Supreme Court) and letting him show an map of Europe without Ukraine to prove it's fakeness. His state media is pushing a narrative to his internal audience that Ukraine shouldn't exist. I heard sentences like: "Why do we have to eradicate Ukrainian men? To make the dismemberment of the country easier." Got that video saved somewhere saved on my pc. Another example: US government just published transcripts from his conversations with George W Bush. Putin said that Ukrainian independence was unthinkable. The reason I know all of this is that I speak fluent Russian and can actually check what Russins say and said over the years.
Before the war Sholz promised Putin that Ukraine won't be able to join it in next 40 years. Putin still attacked. When Putin's aide Kozak made a deal with Ukraine that it won't be joining NATO Putin refused and invaded. Kozak was fired. Then Zelenskyy told the nation that there's no chance they will join NATO and it's time to admit it. No reaction from Russia.
NATO expansion arguments come into play when Russian state seeds discord in the West.
Putin WANTS you to think "NATO expansion" concerns him because it gives him benefit of a doubt that he's got pragmatic reasons for his war.
gorpie97 | 16 days ago
>Putin WANTS you to think "NATO expansion" concerns him because it gives him benefit of a doubt that he's got pragmatic reasons for his war.
:eyeroll:
I'm basing my opinion on what US diplomats and generals have said since 1992. (Which happens to match what Russian diplomats and generals said. I think some Brits, too.)
EDIT: When ya'll wake up and stop letting the establishment lie to you, us others will welcome you.
Poonis5 | 16 days ago
I'm basing my opinion on verifiable facts and direct quotes of Putin.
Him saying Ukraine can join NATO is on YouTube.
Everything he does proves my point except the recent propaganda narrative Russia started using blaming NATO for war.
Ukraine wasn't joining and Putin was promised by EU and Ukraine that it won't happen. He didn't care.
Did even read my comment? There are so many facts proving this point.
gh057 | 16 days ago
good for you for trusting putin
Poonis5 | 15 days ago
I'm debunking his lies.
Mr_JS | 16 days ago
Cool. Where are all the sources for your claims?
gorpie97 | 16 days ago
My bookmarks are a mess, and you're asking me to go through 4 years of them. And you prob won't be convinced anyway, because you've been drinking the koolaid for that time or you're paid to be here.
But I'll put this here:
>Glenn Diesen with General Harald Kujat: Former Head of German Army Exposes Ukraine War Lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-pWvv--FM [interview translated]
>> General Harald Kujat is a former head of the German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) and the former Chairman of NATO's Military Committee. Having held the top military position in both Germany and NATO, General Kujat offers his expertise on how the West and Russia ended up fighting a proxy war in Ukraine. General Kujat discusses the failure to reach a common understanding after the Cold War, the toppling of President Yanukovych in Ukraine, the sabotage of the Minsk agreement and the Istanbul peace negotiations, and the West's lies about an "unprovoked" and "full-scale invasion" of Ukraine.
>> When Boris Johnson came to Ukraine to sabotage the peace negotiations in 2022, one of Zelensky's close associates summed up the essence of Johnson's visit: "Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. We can sign [an agreement] with you [Ukraine], but not with him. Anyway, he will screw everyone over". The essence of General Kujat's position is that the war could have been prevented and could have been ended shortly after it began or in the course of its further development. It cannot be denied or disputed that Russia has started a war that violates international law.
--
EDIT: And I'll add this: the 88% of the world's population living outside the West can see through what he describes as the West's moral posturing,.... (Singaporean scholar Kishore Mahbubani,
source: https://news.cgtn.com/news/2026-08-08/Mahbubani-The-West-is-like-an-emperor-with-no-clothes--1Pr9SlXWWZi/p.html)
[OP] D-R-AZ | 16 days ago
Ukraine could, in some futures, be NATO's leader.