China’s rare earth cerium drug can kill gout pains once and for all: scientists

475 points by scmp_news 18 hours ago on reddit | 25 comments

VagueSomething | 14 hours ago

If you've never had gout and wonder why it is so painful, search for the pictures of what gout looks like under the microscope. It looks like millions of tiny glass spikes. Kinda looks like those old 90s bus seats.

I've only ever had one thing that hurt more than gout and that was rectal surgery where they cut into the muscles and then burned the wound shut.

Dennarb | 13 hours ago

Best way to describe it is it's like having someone saw your joints with a hot hack saw every fucking step

RockRage-- | 6 hours ago

I get it in my foot and the pain is so unbearable when I lift it, it feels like a weight is on it, raising it to rest is a bad idea makes the pain worse in my experience

Dennarb | 6 hours ago

Yep, honestly the best thing is to just avoid having any flair ups if possible. Getting gout fairly young helped me live a bit healthier lifestyle, although I could still be better. Allopurinol definitely helped, but I'm having major issues with insurance and getting into a doctor so I basically can't rely on that right now.

RockRage-- | 6 hours ago

I’m 35, had doctors appointment, blood tests to confirm and I have changed my diet massively because of it to avoid flair ups, lots of fluids, no alcohol and rich/processed food

Dennarb | 5 hours ago

I was diagnosed at 20 and it was honestly due to straight up addiction to soda. I've cut back tremendously and that helped a lot.

RockRage-- | 5 hours ago

At 20 that’s rough dude

Dennarb | 4 hours ago

It has been not fun. But it at least helped me to start taking better care of myself earlier.

deezdanglin | 10 hours ago

Don't get your hopes up. Apparently there's no source and someone said their Google didn't find anything.

VagueSomething | 9 hours ago

Fortunately I haven't had a flair up since taking Allopurinol every day. But the Colchicine was given to take during the flair up didn't work so I had gout for a month and now have damage to the foot. I'd still feel better knowing a new alternative was found so maybe in a few years something will be.

kleeb03 | 11 hours ago

Just got share this for anyone new to gout. For me it was life changing.

CHERRY JUICE

It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. I got gout about 10 years ago in my feet. Awful. First time I went to the ER. They gave me some medicine, that kinda slowly worked over a few days.

2 weeks later it was back. Google, my primary care physician, and then this old guy at the bowling alley told me drinking cherry juice might work.

The old guy at the bowling alley, just overheard me telling my friends about my gout. He walked up to me and said "you got gout? Drink cherry juice" and walked away. I bought some on the way home that night!

I drink about half a glass every 3 or 4 days. I've found that keeps me completely pain free. If I don't have any for a week, my foot starts getting tight and my toes don't bend well. I drink some juice and the next day I feel better.

It's worth a try!

dingalinglans | 7 hours ago

Gotta be montmercy cherries too I believe.

kleeb03 | 5 hours ago

Oh, cool, I didn't know that! Honestly I wasn't even aware of different cherry types, but of course there would be!

Kirk-Joestar | 8 hours ago

No fucking way

kleeb03 | 8 hours ago

Yes way! I don't know what I'd do without it. And I've even learned to enjoy the tart taste! Just drink it cold and after a few months you'll actually like it!

[OP] scmp_news | 18 hours ago

One of the world’s most abundant rare earth elements could offer a comprehensive, long-lasting treatment for gout, a Chinese team has found.

The extremely painful form of inflammatory arthritis has plagued humanity for millennia. “No other pain is more severe than this, not iron screws, nor cords, nor the wound of a dagger, nor burning fire” – that is how the ancient Greek physician Aretaeus described the disease in the second century AD.

More than 55 million people worldwide had gout in 2020, according to US health data, with the number expected to rise by 70 per cent by 2050.

Read more: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3366237/chinas-rare-earth-cerium-drug-can-kill-gout-pains-once-and-all-scientists?utm_source=Reddit&utm_medium=Social

liquidify | 11 hours ago

They talk about a paper, but they never reference it.

Where is the paper?

I haven't been able to find it by looking it up in google.

bawng | 8 hours ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42641363/

scottawesome | 16 hours ago

/r/gout

truehd24 | 8 hours ago

*In rats. Also, allopurinol or cherry products/supplements are already very effective low-cost treatments for gout. Nanoparticles are cool and useful, but I don't like all these miracle cure claims.

itsme32 | 13 hours ago

$480,000/yr in America, probably.

KokoTheTalkingApe | 3 hours ago

From reading the article, the cerium is the least important part of the drug, and might actually play no role at all.

"The newly created drug consists of spherical nanoparticles, with a core or inner layer and an outer layer, and an overall diameter of around 100 nanometres..."

"The outer layer is made of modified chondroitin sulphate, a compound designed to capture excess nitric oxide. By neutralising nitric oxide, this outer shield helps to reduce painful inflammation, the animal tests showed."

"For the core layer, the Shanghai team used uricase – an enzyme that breaks down uric acid – protected inside hollow cerium oxide nanoparticles. This protective shell allows the uricase to safely clear uric acid without being destroyed by proteases – or specialised enzymes that break down proteins."

So, the outer layer neutralizes nitric oxide. The core breaks down uric acid. The cerium oxide shell does... what? Protects the core from enzymes. And that's all.

abielle1177 | 7 hours ago

For another direction for treatment

https://news.gsu.edu/2025/08/26/georgia-state-scientists-revive-ancient-gene-to-target-gout-fatty-liver-disease/

Imit8m3 | an hour ago

*In rat trials. Good for them, let me know how human trials go.