If you check FIRMS there were like ~18 hits to various pumping stations along the entire ~1,200km east/west pipeline. If I were a betting man that thing is likely cooked for quite some time.
Kind of clever by Iran. Hit the oil hope for a price spike to politically damage Trump at the mid terms.
Use the Houthis as fall guys. If Saudi Arabia can't pump or ship oil the entire world will know it imminently.
It isn't just oil that is at stake but all that fiscal recycling to Wall Street.
Drones have changed everything. These kinds of precision strikes weren't possible a few decades ago. You needed satellite guided ballistic or cruise missiles.
Now a paramilitary organization can conduct precision strikes on the worlds most important energy infrastructure.
We're watching warfare making paradigm shifts in real time. The lumbering strike cruiser flotillas are as impressive and useless as the charge of the light brigade on today's battlefield.
Drones, unmanned subs, and cyber attacks are the way the future conflicts will operate with.
It's fascinating.
It doesn't help that Trump is an ignoramus and this war is totally of his making. The US could 'win' but that would involve a marine division taking Kharg Island and the war becomes a real one. No one wants to help him because he has alienated himself from any support particularly from Europe or other allies.
Imagine Twitter being filled with Marines being hit by drones like in Ukraine? Not sure the US public could stomach it.
How would a marine division taking Kharg island help things if the Iranians could still menace shipping through the strait from mainland Iran?
I mean it would cripple their ability to export oil but we're already doing that with a blockade; whenever I hear Kharg island mentioned it just seems like a desperate search for a simple focal target that doesn't really exist.
It's insanity on so many levels, dude. Watching from Canada, thrilled that Carney and Zelinskyy just signed that drone deal, wondering what the fuck is coming next.
The world is spinning too fast these days.
Look how the russians adapted aswell.
They are consistently shooting down a large majority of all drones and missiles
10 out 12 flamingos the other day.
Point is, let’s hope the world learns from both sides how to defend strategic points
It is fascinating. I feel like such a weirdo cause im an old woman who follows 10 different war youtubers. I just cant seem to look away. The innovations are crazy.
Houthis are a regional governing regime in Yemen closely allied with the IRGC, definitely not fall guys or paramilitary. It's suspected/assumed that Iran has military leadership embedded with the Houthi military. And yesterday they seized control of Yemen's entire Red Sea coast which means the world needs to prepare for shipping to route around Africa instead of through the Suez Canal.
Idk if it's the fall guys. That's their allies for a while. Seems like they are helping each other more than ours are helping us. Maybe waging a trade war, saying we don't need them, threatening to invade their territory, and insulting our allies for a year isn't working out.
The part I just can’t comprehend is that we’ve had a front row seat to the Ukraine war and various other conflicts the last 5-10 years, yet somehow this all seemingly news to the pentagon. They’re now looking to partner with Ukraine cause they’re vastly way behind where the modern battlefield is headed.
They’ve become completely tunnel visioned from fighter plane and guided missile advances that they couldn’t even fathom the low tech ways in which they’re being outfoxed.
The next administration needs to toss out a lot of the old ways and completely retool the military to a modern world.
Hitting one area would result in repairs that could take a few days to repair and return to operation. Multiple hits means deploying supplies and materials to a much wider area and guarantee that it isn’t working for a couple of weeks at best.
It is also notable that Iran didn’t use their last missile, so it isn’t like they can’t repeat from step 1 every single month.
The vital military bas the US has in east africa, one even more important now with the ME bases comprimised or destroyed, is less than a hundred miles from the territory now controlled by the Houthis. And if they are using drones to attack a pipeline, they can use drones to hit the base.
Bruv US came and attacked killing thousands of civilians including a girls school. Even if you hate your government, if some other country is attacking you, you will support your country.
I assume you will be signing up to be the first to storm the beaches, and offering up your money to help fund the exercise?
The US would have to go to a war footing with conscription for a full invasion, which they could do, but I doubt people like yourself are putting their hands up to volunteer.
Just to put this into perspective. This was in retaliation for America blowing up five Iranian oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz. Arguably, a worthy response from Iran.
so Iran's response to maybe having to stop murdering a little less is to take the whole middle east hostage lol. this is not going to go well with Nato, can it?
ForMoreYears | 7 hours ago
If you check FIRMS there were like ~18 hits to various pumping stations along the entire ~1,200km east/west pipeline. If I were a betting man that thing is likely cooked for quite some time.
yellowbai | 7 hours ago
Kind of clever by Iran. Hit the oil hope for a price spike to politically damage Trump at the mid terms.
Use the Houthis as fall guys. If Saudi Arabia can't pump or ship oil the entire world will know it imminently.
It isn't just oil that is at stake but all that fiscal recycling to Wall Street.
Drones have changed everything. These kinds of precision strikes weren't possible a few decades ago. You needed satellite guided ballistic or cruise missiles.
Now a paramilitary organization can conduct precision strikes on the worlds most important energy infrastructure.
SmaugTheMagnificent- | 7 hours ago
We're watching warfare making paradigm shifts in real time. The lumbering strike cruiser flotillas are as impressive and useless as the charge of the light brigade on today's battlefield. Drones, unmanned subs, and cyber attacks are the way the future conflicts will operate with. It's fascinating.
yellowbai | 7 hours ago
It doesn't help that Trump is an ignoramus and this war is totally of his making. The US could 'win' but that would involve a marine division taking Kharg Island and the war becomes a real one. No one wants to help him because he has alienated himself from any support particularly from Europe or other allies.
Imagine Twitter being filled with Marines being hit by drones like in Ukraine? Not sure the US public could stomach it.
nanomolar | 6 hours ago
How would a marine division taking Kharg island help things if the Iranians could still menace shipping through the strait from mainland Iran?
I mean it would cripple their ability to export oil but we're already doing that with a blockade; whenever I hear Kharg island mentioned it just seems like a desperate search for a simple focal target that doesn't really exist.
SmaugTheMagnificent- | 7 hours ago
It's insanity on so many levels, dude. Watching from Canada, thrilled that Carney and Zelinskyy just signed that drone deal, wondering what the fuck is coming next. The world is spinning too fast these days.
Chemical-Idea-1294 | 6 hours ago
When you see what Ukraine does with drone strikes, the future of wars looks totally different, or in some way back to scorched earth.
Destroying the infrastructure to weaken the power of the opponent. That expands the front line to the whole country.
themostsadpandas | an hour ago
Yeah I agree with you. War is about to get ten times more genocidal than in the past century. Attrition and seige tactics are the way of the future
Pleasant-Strike3389 | 3 hours ago
Look how the russians adapted aswell.
They are consistently shooting down a large majority of all drones and missiles
10 out 12 flamingos the other day.
Point is, let’s hope the world learns from both sides how to defend strategic points
riotmed | 5 hours ago
I think it will happen the day after midterms
Blondefarmgirl | 4 hours ago
It is fascinating. I feel like such a weirdo cause im an old woman who follows 10 different war youtubers. I just cant seem to look away. The innovations are crazy.
catchy_phrase76 | 2 hours ago
Whats really fascinating is that when it moves to all out war (Ukraine and Russia), it still comes down to a scared kid on each side of a trench.
With Iran, no one is taking or losing ground, just shows how we can fester a war that's not a war into a global shit show.
Ukraine shows us, that war has taken the tactics employed back to WW1. Drones instead of chemical weapons.
gravescd | 5 hours ago
Houthis are a regional governing regime in Yemen closely allied with the IRGC, definitely not fall guys or paramilitary. It's suspected/assumed that Iran has military leadership embedded with the Houthi military. And yesterday they seized control of Yemen's entire Red Sea coast which means the world needs to prepare for shipping to route around Africa instead of through the Suez Canal.
RedParaglider | 4 hours ago
Idk if it's the fall guys. That's their allies for a while. Seems like they are helping each other more than ours are helping us. Maybe waging a trade war, saying we don't need them, threatening to invade their territory, and insulting our allies for a year isn't working out.
5minArgument | 2 hours ago
If it was Iran it’s likely more to do with responding to US attacks on their civilian ships more than the mid-term elections.
LazloHollifeld | an hour ago
The part I just can’t comprehend is that we’ve had a front row seat to the Ukraine war and various other conflicts the last 5-10 years, yet somehow this all seemingly news to the pentagon. They’re now looking to partner with Ukraine cause they’re vastly way behind where the modern battlefield is headed.
They’ve become completely tunnel visioned from fighter plane and guided missile advances that they couldn’t even fathom the low tech ways in which they’re being outfoxed.
The next administration needs to toss out a lot of the old ways and completely retool the military to a modern world.
Available_Finger_513 | 6 hours ago
Of course oil futures down for the day on the news.
Fullertonjr | 6 hours ago
Hitting one area would result in repairs that could take a few days to repair and return to operation. Multiple hits means deploying supplies and materials to a much wider area and guarantee that it isn’t working for a couple of weeks at best.
It is also notable that Iran didn’t use their last missile, so it isn’t like they can’t repeat from step 1 every single month.
NameLips | 4 hours ago
They might even double-tap to try to get the repair equipment and crews.
karl4319 | 6 hours ago
The vital military bas the US has in east africa, one even more important now with the ME bases comprimised or destroyed, is less than a hundred miles from the territory now controlled by the Houthis. And if they are using drones to attack a pipeline, they can use drones to hit the base.
Pollo_Chimichanga | 4 hours ago
Bring the ships and soldiers home, close whatever is left of the bases and call it a day.
Chicosballs | 2 hours ago
And give all the soldiers $5000 so they vote republican.
glorypron | 24 minutes ago
oof. that's probably the way, but seriously don't travel anywhere.
UniversalJS | 4 hours ago
Or finish IRCG seems a much better plan rather than falling for terrorists.
GlobalistShills | 4 hours ago
Currently trying and failing that badly rn
UniversalJS | 4 hours ago
Let's see if IRCG will survive next 6 months
GlobalistShills | 3 hours ago
Bruv US came and attacked killing thousands of civilians including a girls school. Even if you hate your government, if some other country is attacking you, you will support your country.
AnAttemptReason | 3 hours ago
I assume you will be signing up to be the first to storm the beaches, and offering up your money to help fund the exercise?
The US would have to go to a war footing with conscription for a full invasion, which they could do, but I doubt people like yourself are putting their hands up to volunteer.
WastelandOfConfusion | 3 hours ago
Just to put this into perspective. This was in retaliation for America blowing up five Iranian oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz. Arguably, a worthy response from Iran.
HotNurse9 | 2 hours ago
so Iran's response to maybe having to stop murdering a little less is to take the whole middle east hostage lol. this is not going to go well with Nato, can it?