It's great that this was studied and found out, but is anyone surprised by this? The military treats their men like equipment and the military is cheap.
Nope. I was a tanker, so if I wanted to blame anything, I would probably point my finger at the hydraulic fluid, 30W oil, and JP8 fuel. But who knows. Just sucks lol
Cancer is so weird. There are people in contact with the nastiest stuff and somehow never get cancer. Meanwhile, some get the tiniest bit of something and bam, cancer. That being said, I hope you get cured. My elderly aunt was cured recently and she's in her late 70s. There is hope!
Thanks, and congrats to your grandma. It's been a slog for me at 35, so you know your granny is tough as nails to endure and overcome it at 70+. Here's to hoping the folks at MSK can get me there
I hate to break it to you, but they also used pfa flame retardants in the motor pool. They can’t develop a lot of the base part of alameda island because of the “green sand” which is pfa soaked sand, it’s called “cancer juice” for a reason.
As much as I love your cheeky can-do attitude in the face of getting grossly mistreated by your government. If you figure out what you were exposed to you are much more likely to get a disability claim approved.
Here’s a cool story that may help explain it! Can’t find the article on this but the article linked talks about the chemical in question.
In 1961 DuPont released Teflon cookware. In 1980-1981 DuPont noticed something. A chemical called “C8” (forever chemical) seemed to be in some of their employees bloodstreams. They found this out after multiple female employees gave birth to children with birth defects. So Dupont did the right thing! They took as many blood samples from their employees as they could to see how many were infected.
They could NOT find a sample without C8… So they broadened their scope, grabbing blood samples from non-employees and THEY STILL could not find a sample without C8…
So of course they doubled the samples and uhh… everyone had C8 in their blood…
They finally went and got blood samples from soldiers from WWII that were frozen and guess what!? No C8! That still didn’t help the fact that C8 was in multiple communities’ drinking water but that is why internal investigations are done, so no one knows.
So what did DuPont do!?!? They said NOTHING and voluntarily decided to change it to a different dangerous chemical in the 2000’s. By the way, all the suffering, still births, birth defects, and cancer, were never addressed. DuPont never had a single bit of liability and they won’t! It is now believed that some if not all Americans have this in their blood and
 certainly it’s in the hundreds of millions infected.
There are those who benefit from our laws but are not beholden to them, we are beholden to them with no benefit. Enjoy the cancer guys I certainly will!
what would we Expect ? all of our Explosion based technology is poisonous to ALL LIFE ... we cannot seem to make something unless it kills everything and everyone as some point in our time line then ther will be a magic Fix to the problem .... we may need policy to make it where harmful tech is Banned and prohibited ... Implosion / Free energy / zero [point technologies only
Senacharrib | 20 hours ago
Flame retardants…
elinamebro | 10 hours ago
What about burn pits? Do they still do that?
Mcozy333 | 9 hours ago
Chicken Skins !! loaded with that stuff .... !
Ghett0Chemist | 10 hours ago
How come you can use that word but if I do I get emails from HR?
refusemouth | 7 hours ago
It's now called "flame divergent."
PhD_Pwnology | 21 hours ago
It's great that this was studied and found out, but is anyone surprised by this? The military treats their men like equipment and the military is cheap.
woollysockpuppet | 10 hours ago
We are not all men
PhD_Pwnology | 8 hours ago
In the english language a group of mixed sex individuals can be referred to as a group of 'men' same as spanish. Not sure what to say other than that.
0impulsecontrol | 7 hours ago
probably a bot account- you made a valid criticism, and they sidelined it with culture war. It's a tactic.
Gaothaire | 3 hours ago
Literally a "sock puppet" account. Crazy naming strategy
Blue_Butterfly_Who | 7 hours ago
People (if you want to say something other than that)
NIRPL | 19 hours ago
35 with cancer. Makes me wonder
Senacharrib | 19 hours ago
Did you operate in flight decks with flame retardant foam?
NIRPL | 19 hours ago
Nope. I was a tanker, so if I wanted to blame anything, I would probably point my finger at the hydraulic fluid, 30W oil, and JP8 fuel. But who knows. Just sucks lol
PossibleAlienFrom | 19 hours ago
Cancer is so weird. There are people in contact with the nastiest stuff and somehow never get cancer. Meanwhile, some get the tiniest bit of something and bam, cancer. That being said, I hope you get cured. My elderly aunt was cured recently and she's in her late 70s. There is hope!
NIRPL | 19 hours ago
Thanks, and congrats to your grandma. It's been a slog for me at 35, so you know your granny is tough as nails to endure and overcome it at 70+. Here's to hoping the folks at MSK can get me there
ButteredPizza69420 | 8 hours ago
Stay strong homie you got this đź’Ş
Senacharrib | 19 hours ago
I hate to break it to you, but they also used pfa flame retardants in the motor pool. They can’t develop a lot of the base part of alameda island because of the “green sand” which is pfa soaked sand, it’s called “cancer juice” for a reason.
NIRPL | 18 hours ago
At least I'm less prone to spontaneous combustion now right?
Senacharrib | 11 hours ago
As much as I love your cheeky can-do attitude in the face of getting grossly mistreated by your government. If you figure out what you were exposed to you are much more likely to get a disability claim approved.
ICQ4Knowlwdge | 7 hours ago
Love your humor! I’ll be thinking of you.
RustyTrunk | 12 hours ago
I worked in the flight deck…what do I need to google to learn more about this.
Senacharrib | 12 hours ago
Look up “green sand” to identify which types of flame retardants are used. And look at MSDS sheets for those respective compounds.
10ThousandMetalZones | 17 hours ago
Phew, good thing I’m a 41 year old veteran
MisterSanitation | 10 hours ago
Here’s a cool story that may help explain it! Can’t find the article on this but the article linked talks about the chemical in question.
In 1961 DuPont released Teflon cookware. In 1980-1981 DuPont noticed something. A chemical called “C8” (forever chemical) seemed to be in some of their employees bloodstreams. They found this out after multiple female employees gave birth to children with birth defects. So Dupont did the right thing! They took as many blood samples from their employees as they could to see how many were infected.
They could NOT find a sample without C8… So they broadened their scope, grabbing blood samples from non-employees and THEY STILL could not find a sample without C8…
So of course they doubled the samples and uhh… everyone had C8 in their blood…
They finally went and got blood samples from soldiers from WWII that were frozen and guess what!? No C8! That still didn’t help the fact that C8 was in multiple communities’ drinking water but that is why internal investigations are done, so no one knows.
So what did DuPont do!?!? They said NOTHING and voluntarily decided to change it to a different dangerous chemical in the 2000’s. By the way, all the suffering, still births, birth defects, and cancer, were never addressed. DuPont never had a single bit of liability and they won’t! It is now believed that some if not all Americans have this in their blood and  certainly it’s in the hundreds of millions infected.
There are those who benefit from our laws but are not beholden to them, we are beholden to them with no benefit. Enjoy the cancer guys I certainly will!
https://sciencereader.com/pfas-forever-chemicals-teflon-health-risks/
https://www.ewg.org/research/dupont-hid-teflon-pollution-decades
HuckleberryPee | 14 hours ago
Read up about gulf war syndrome. Thousands of soldiers poisoned by pesticides, burnt plastics, petrochemicals, etc.
Agile_Kangaroo2157 | 18 hours ago
We've been getting poisoned for awhile now
Relevant_Grass9586 | 9 hours ago
I am iron man
MaleficentLynx | 11 hours ago
Imma bet those modern Kings and Queens have organic food. Good for them I guess.
Mcozy333 | 9 hours ago
what would we Expect ? all of our Explosion based technology is poisonous to ALL LIFE ... we cannot seem to make something unless it kills everything and everyone as some point in our time line then ther will be a magic Fix to the problem .... we may need policy to make it where harmful tech is Banned and prohibited ... Implosion / Free energy / zero [point technologies only
Konradleijon | 5 hours ago
Fuck
The military industry complex
Much-Sink1339 | 9 hours ago
“I signed up to murder brown people so rich people could get richer, and all I got were these lousy forever chemicals”