Imagine we pooled our resources into learning more about the universe and cherishing our existence in it. How far we would go. Instead we have this time line. Believing that we somehow can control it and each other.
Well put. They have made us believe a better way is impossible, so it is. If the universe is quantum entanglement then we are co- creators in our own reality.
Quantum suicide theory might actually explain our current weird governments. Ever since the 1940's, the chance that we'd wipe out the human race with nuclear weapons has been non-zero. In a quantum multiverse, those realities happen too - but there are no humans alive to observe them; so we can only observe ones where this does not happen.
As the number of weapons climbs, the cumulative odds keep increasing. At some point, we pass a phase where only the statistically anomalous universes have humans in them to make this observation. The really weird ones where unlikely and crazy stuff happened, that only by chance stopped us all from dying.
And so, we will be in weird quantum universes for as long as we have the ability to destroy ourselves.
This comment just blew my mind. It reminds me the anthropic principle/fine-tuning argument and how it falls apart if you consider infinite universes with different cosmological constants. Of course we're in the one that happens to have just the right tuning to give rise to life. That's not miraculous, it's just observation bias
That implies that just because one unlikely thing happened, more unlikely things are going to happen, when in reality, they're statistically independent. That's like thinking that just because a slot machine hasn't had a jackpot in a while or a winning lottery number hasn't been drawn that it's more likely to happen in the near future.
It depends on how high the odds of nuclear annihilation are. If they were to hit, say, 99.999% a year, then every year anyone living in a non-armagheddon timeline went through a year of 0.001% shenanigans every single year. The slot machine is, in this scenario, ongoing.
Qantum mechanics, which recently turned 100 years old, ranks as the most successful theory in the history of physics. Yet on a fundamental level, we still don’t understand what quantum mechanics is saying about how the world works.
Any standard textbook will tell you that the dynamics of quantum mechanics are based on two axioms—mathematical rules that allow us to theoretically compute the outcome of an experiment. Surprisingly, these two axioms are self-contradictory. They present one of nature’s deepest mysteries: the quantum measurement problem—the fact that the quantum rules describing an object to be measured don’t seem to apply to the object doing the measuring. This disturbing contradiction suggests that different physical laws apply to the observer and the observed.
One proposal to resolve the paradox is the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. Many Worlds demands that our universe actually be a multiverse. The idea is often considered fringe, even silly. Lately, however, experimental progress has been changing the situation. Scientists have been able to measure quantum effects in larger and more complex systems and over great distances, blurring the line once thought to separate the scale of observer and observed. These signs that quantum rules might cross over into the macroscopic realm are making many physicists reconsider Many Worlds. But what does this notion really mean for the universe we call home?
I really wonder if dark matter isn't the gravitational influence of the many worlds leaking into our reality. It would explain galaxies without dark matter if the position of that mass was extremely unlikely.
As a physics PhD student, this is also my pet theory via a many worlds extension to baryon acoustic oscillations in the early universe. However, I think the bullet cluster puts some pretty harsh constraints on the idea, and it's a bit outside my subfield.
There has been galaxies observed that seem to lack dark matter, and galaxies that are pretty much only dark matter. I'm trying to get you links, but I suspect the AI security vulnerability is messing with the internet. I just had a major science news website fail to load.
What's interesting is there is this 1 Tev range where the prediction aligns with the observed casimir effect. I talked with ChatGPT a ton about this, and it kind of glossed that part over.
When you die, your consciousness may or may not transfer over to any of the infinite timelines where you are born but things range to either ever so slightly different to wildly different. Just putting that out there.
My most hated theory, even the theory says we cant prove the multiverse otherwise its clearly not a multiverse if we can interact with it, hence its forever unfalsifiable, hence its pseudoscience.
I bet this is a sectionalist article cause people love "the wacky multiverse mysteries", yet even the physicists of the MWI have learned to only focus on the math that works, and not talk about the fairy tales side of it.
You should read it. It's interesting and it goes through a very simplified version of what the math is describing. It also says that there are no ways to test it right now.
the whole point of this theory is the results of branching are forever inaccessible, the multiverse is forever non interactable, no communication, no interference, absolutely forever separated from our universe.
I think it's safer to be agnostic on the feasibility of scientific progress. There are plenty of things we thought would never be possible or that we changed our minds on once we had a new way to observe and measure things.
Matte, their own theory says proving the multiverse disproves the theory.
Doesn't matter if u take the agnostic position or the doggy style position, their own theory is debunked when proven, its not about "we might discover physics that make i possible", thats beyond the point.
Excellent because we're burning through this world's resources so maybe we can get the Americans to invade a parallel reality or something - oh wait they already live there
Corpus_uk | 6 hours ago
Imagine we pooled our resources into learning more about the universe and cherishing our existence in it. How far we would go. Instead we have this time line. Believing that we somehow can control it and each other.
Mrs_SmithG2W | 3 hours ago
Well put. They have made us believe a better way is impossible, so it is. If the universe is quantum entanglement then we are co- creators in our own reality.
Let’s create something new.
💪🏼🌍🖖🏾
ryan101 | an hour ago
I made this tentacle 🐙 porn
Prineak | an hour ago
I made a photo of a horse giving birth to your drawing of tentacle porn.
hand_truck | 4 hours ago
Control it and each other through beliefs in fairytales, no less.
Spunge14 | 2 hours ago
Arguably that's what Demis Hassabis thinks we're doing with AI.
You may agree or not agree, but the reason many of the major labs even exist is the quest for knowledge.
AltForObvious1177 | 52 minutes ago
Probably not much further. Are there any realistic theories that aren't being investigated due to lack of resources?
Lost_Department_2177 | 6 hours ago
That’s awesome what codes do we enter to get the planet to stop being in crisis 24/7?
TheFeshy | 5 hours ago
Quantum suicide theory might actually explain our current weird governments. Ever since the 1940's, the chance that we'd wipe out the human race with nuclear weapons has been non-zero. In a quantum multiverse, those realities happen too - but there are no humans alive to observe them; so we can only observe ones where this does not happen.
As the number of weapons climbs, the cumulative odds keep increasing. At some point, we pass a phase where only the statistically anomalous universes have humans in them to make this observation. The really weird ones where unlikely and crazy stuff happened, that only by chance stopped us all from dying.
And so, we will be in weird quantum universes for as long as we have the ability to destroy ourselves.
Samvega_California | 3 hours ago
This comment just blew my mind. It reminds me the anthropic principle/fine-tuning argument and how it falls apart if you consider infinite universes with different cosmological constants. Of course we're in the one that happens to have just the right tuning to give rise to life. That's not miraculous, it's just observation bias
SeekerOfSerenity | 2 hours ago
That implies that just because one unlikely thing happened, more unlikely things are going to happen, when in reality, they're statistically independent. That's like thinking that just because a slot machine hasn't had a jackpot in a while or a winning lottery number hasn't been drawn that it's more likely to happen in the near future.
TheFeshy | 11 minutes ago
It depends on how high the odds of nuclear annihilation are. If they were to hit, say, 99.999% a year, then every year anyone living in a non-armagheddon timeline went through a year of 0.001% shenanigans every single year. The slot machine is, in this scenario, ongoing.
Exact_Zone_8331 | 4 hours ago
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right A B A B Select Start
Lost_Department_2177 | 3 hours ago
So do this in the up and down votes then delete a reply in messages then figure out the rest?
liam_redit1st | 5 hours ago
Up down left right square
[OP] scientificamerican | 8 hours ago
Qantum mechanics, which recently turned 100 years old, ranks as the most successful theory in the history of physics. Yet on a fundamental level, we still don’t understand what quantum mechanics is saying about how the world works.
Any standard textbook will tell you that the dynamics of quantum mechanics are based on two axioms—mathematical rules that allow us to theoretically compute the outcome of an experiment. Surprisingly, these two axioms are self-contradictory. They present one of nature’s deepest mysteries: the quantum measurement problem—the fact that the quantum rules describing an object to be measured don’t seem to apply to the object doing the measuring. This disturbing contradiction suggests that different physical laws apply to the observer and the observed.
One proposal to resolve the paradox is the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. Many Worlds demands that our universe actually be a multiverse. The idea is often considered fringe, even silly. Lately, however, experimental progress has been changing the situation. Scientists have been able to measure quantum effects in larger and more complex systems and over great distances, blurring the line once thought to separate the scale of observer and observed. These signs that quantum rules might cross over into the macroscopic realm are making many physicists reconsider Many Worlds. But what does this notion really mean for the universe we call home?
Rocketbird | 6 hours ago
Boy imagine my confusion when I thought this was the comment section for Lamar Jackson’s ankle injury
Flat_corp | 5 hours ago
Long story short: There may be a reality where Lamar Jackson doesn’t have an ankle injury.
kernelpanic9 | 5 hours ago
And one where he doesn't have an ankle.
LordBalderdash | 4 hours ago
And an infinite number where he has three.
Memetic1 | 6 hours ago
I really wonder if dark matter isn't the gravitational influence of the many worlds leaking into our reality. It would explain galaxies without dark matter if the position of that mass was extremely unlikely.
wthulhu | 4 hours ago
I've had the same thought, but then assume that people smarter than me probably already thought of that. Its kinda too easy.
phaionix | 4 hours ago
As a physics PhD student, this is also my pet theory via a many worlds extension to baryon acoustic oscillations in the early universe. However, I think the bullet cluster puts some pretty harsh constraints on the idea, and it's a bit outside my subfield.
-ImYourHuckleberry- | 3 hours ago
Where can I read more about this?
Memetic1 | 2 hours ago
There has been galaxies observed that seem to lack dark matter, and galaxies that are pretty much only dark matter. I'm trying to get you links, but I suspect the AI security vulnerability is messing with the internet. I just had a major science news website fail to load.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.15860
https://www.wired.com/story/a-galaxy-composed-almost-entirely-of-dark-matter-has-been-confirmed/
What's interesting is there is this 1 Tev range where the prediction aligns with the observed casimir effect. I talked with ChatGPT a ton about this, and it kind of glossed that part over.
https://chatgpt.com/share/6ad96147-46d0-83ea-a3f3-609f07cd9f6e
algaefied_creek | 5 hours ago
How does that interact with WIMPS?
Time_Tap346 | 6 hours ago
The fourth dimension is love
xriddle | 4 hours ago
https://archive.is/hnznI
goatpengertie | 6 hours ago
My multiverse sucks. Can I get a new one?
NeptuneOverlord43045 | an hour ago
When you die, your consciousness may or may not transfer over to any of the infinite timelines where you are born but things range to either ever so slightly different to wildly different. Just putting that out there.
Connect_Gur_3518 | 5 hours ago
Didn’t we learn this from those Marvel documentaries with Ant Man?
WisestCracker | 5 hours ago
Well shit
Mr_REEEEE_Man | 2 hours ago
If fundamental reality is sub space/time, im not sure the idea of multiple universes is coherent, as that we mean that the substrate would need space
tendingthemild | 2 hours ago
I just want to know, of all the state-spaces that could exist, why am I stuck in this one?
Random_182f2565 | 6 hours ago
Of madness?
bad_take_ | 7 hours ago
Counterpoint: we’re probably not.
Memetic1 | 6 hours ago
Please try and make more of an effort next time. I'm sure there is a universe where you wrote something interesting, but this is not it.
bad_take_ | 5 hours ago
Fair comment to make. I’ll take the well deserved downvotes. Cheers!
ifnotthefool | 6 hours ago
I love these types of comments. Worthless.
tpc0121 | 6 hours ago
Counterpoint: I hate them
ifnotthefool | 5 hours ago
I absolutely hate them. Should have put in the /s!
7grims | 7 hours ago
My most hated theory, even the theory says we cant prove the multiverse otherwise its clearly not a multiverse if we can interact with it, hence its forever unfalsifiable, hence its pseudoscience.
I bet this is a sectionalist article cause people love "the wacky multiverse mysteries", yet even the physicists of the MWI have learned to only focus on the math that works, and not talk about the fairy tales side of it.
DoritoDustThumb | 7 hours ago
So you didn't read it and made a whole straw man post about what you think is in it? 😂
7grims | 6 hours ago
paywall
but what i said is true regardless.
I think even one of their own physicists said it "proving the multiverse debunks the theory itself"
puff_of_fluff | 5 hours ago
It’s not a paywall you just have to put in an email address. Didn’t make me sign up or anything
Fun_Valuable | 3 hours ago
Dont worry about the downvotes. Serious scientists agree with you.
7grims | 45 minutes ago
i know...
none of the replies is like denying what im saying, nor even the article :/
Nillabeans | 7 hours ago
You should read it. It's interesting and it goes through a very simplified version of what the math is describing. It also says that there are no ways to test it right now.
7grims | 5 hours ago
there never will be a way to test it...
the whole point of this theory is the results of branching are forever inaccessible, the multiverse is forever non interactable, no communication, no interference, absolutely forever separated from our universe.
Nillabeans | 5 hours ago
I think it's safer to be agnostic on the feasibility of scientific progress. There are plenty of things we thought would never be possible or that we changed our minds on once we had a new way to observe and measure things.
7grims | 5 hours ago
Matte, their own theory says proving the multiverse disproves the theory.
Doesn't matter if u take the agnostic position or the doggy style position, their own theory is debunked when proven, its not about "we might discover physics that make i possible", thats beyond the point.
Nillabeans | 4 hours ago
It is literally theoretical physics with a side of metaphysics. Did you read the article or just the headline?
Major-Librarian1745 | 7 hours ago
Why is it important
Nillabeans | 7 hours ago
Why is what important?
Major-Librarian1745 | 6 hours ago
Exactly
Nillabeans | 6 hours ago
The article goes over why it would be important to know if we're in a multiverse.
It's important to read the article before making claims about it and arguing against things you're only assuming it says.
Quantum physics are important because understanding how particles behave is what allows you to make obtuse comments on the internet.
Major-Librarian1745 | 6 hours ago
That's your angle
Major-Librarian1745 | 7 hours ago
Excellent because we're burning through this world's resources so maybe we can get the Americans to invade a parallel reality or something - oh wait they already live there
sauce_delgado | 7 hours ago
Who sees an article like this and has this immediate thought lmao
Major-Librarian1745 | 7 hours ago
Science
thedatsun78 | 6 hours ago
Me