This is genuinely worrying. When politics starts overriding evidence-based policy, everyone loses , from public health to climate action to basic research funding. We’re already seeing the consequences.”
The grassroots platform of the Republican Party has been for decades now "you don't need to believe something just because someone can prove it, and we don't need to legislate with regard to things that can be proven."
This is in religious rage over evolution. This is in conservative anger over the growing field of sociology proving their ideas don't work like claimed. This is in every scientific field showing that forms of bigotry between humans are not fundamentally based in anything but bigotry. You aren't actually tangibly better than whatever race you disdain. Queerness isn't an evolutionary mistake to be weeded. Misogyny is cruel without reason, not a natural order.
So when their favored candidate does something bad, they're already practiced at disbelieving facts that aren't convenient to their interests. They love being called out for it and getting to demonstrate their doublethink like a party trick. Trump isn't really a pedophile. Housing is available if you just cut avocados. My elected officials don't actively behave in a way oppositional to my scriptures.
Where the culture went wrong was giving idiots blanket permission to just “disagree” with factual reality, as if that were somehow a legitimate thing you can do and even take yourself seriously let alone be indulged in that by others. Asimov and Sagan both called it back in the 1970’s. And Karl Popper even earlier.
Thinking, because I have an asshole and an opinion,my opinion is equal to all other opinions. Even for things I know nothing about! After all,I read a book once! Vote for me, because I'm always right and never lie. (Apologies to Firesign Theater).
Its because of bots online. They just flood EVERYWHERE with propaganda, and will stand there and argue with you no matter how much evidence you have to the contrary. People eventually start believing it.
Public opinion is one thing, but there are definitely monied interests at play in trying to counter scientific consensus.
The homeopathic medicine and wellness machine, fossil fuel companies, automotive and gun lobbies, large agricultural companies... They're all placing profit above people and science. Thanks, Dodge vs Ford decision (1919)!
In the past years ive watched reddit go from a left wing vibe to weird fighting?
Tons of downvoted weird comments about how everything project 2025 had to say is gospel.
Like if you were a hard-core pro Trump Republican...why would you even be here? For a people so obsessed with identity politics...why would you be commenting here where the scary liberals are?
Millions of people dont normally spend time debating people of the opposite political spectrum on literally everything ever.
There was a recent study done by cloud flare. 55% of all online traffic including comments and posts are done by bots. Youre right its not all bots, but theres better than 50/50 odds that they are. Eventually people will begin to believe the bots propaganda and then we get dumb people arguing the same as the bots.
It's been broken for years, we are just seeing it in the open because of this stupid fucking administration. To quote George Carlin, "The Planet is fine, the people are fucked".
Dr. Fauci single-handedly made many skeptical of "government medical science." So many seniors of both left and right political views are opting for cancer treatments not in main stream medicine. Many doubt the political interpretations of enviromental issues. The refusal of many to recognize reality of two bioligal sexes, believing trans people can get pregnant and have periods. The science deniers are everywhere on every topic.
No fauci did nothing to make people distrust medical science. Trump did with all his claims. Not to mention you have 0 clue what any of those topics actually are.
Hahahaha man thats hilarious. You think during the middle of a pandemic we shouldve been huddled together doing the same thing? Or not wearing masks to stop the spread of infection? Plus trump was the one who defunded the department of education.
And you think my memory is gone? Your entire brain is gone if you think like that.
Proven now that masks didn't stop spread. Remember Fauci's first press conference demonstrating using any cloth to serve as a mask? Even nurses wearing ultimate haz masks still caught covid. Vaccination didn't stop spread and caused harm to some. The whole covid debacle wasn't Trump. He only followed what his science advisors told him (Fauci main one). The lockdown was not helpful. People didn't get preventive health care, had surgeries canceled, couldn't get cancer treatment. It hurt so many in USA in so many ways. Trump didn't order schools closed. Trump told truth. It came from China from lab Fauci helped fund. Fauci should be in prison.
Masks did reduce the spread of infection. Why the fuck you think medical professionals wear masks.... The vaccine absolutely prevented covid deaths, and the only reason it didn't prevent more deaths is imbeciles like you that think they know better than the experts.
I'm not surprised that you're the same person who refused to even read the article of the post. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT KINDLY STFU.
Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34789505
Owing to heterogeneity of the studies, meta-analysis was not possible for the outcomes of quarantine and isolation, universal lockdowns, and closures of borders, schools, and workplaces.
That page literally discredit everything you were claiming. Did you even read it?
>Conclusions: This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19.
Like its not even 3 paragraphs down. You must actually be an idiot.
But isolation and closing schools & workplaces didn't. Destroyed USA economy, set back kids education, lost jobs.
Like many Americans, I wore mask when out of home, got vaccination with 2 boosters, didn't leave home, had groceries delivered And still got covid. Where? Have no idea as didn’t have contact with another human for 6 months. From groceries delivered?
Got autoimmune Thyroiditis after 3rd booster for new variant causing hyperthyroid thyrotoxicosis.
1st article - says people didn't go to hospitals during COVID and that impacted stroke care.
Rebuttal: yes...and? Pandemics often overwhelm hospitals which causes care for other conditions to go unaddressed. That's a big reason why pandemics are a bad thing and why quarantining (aka lockdowns) is a good thing. You don't want infectious disease to get this bad so you lockdown the population to manage the rate of the spread.
2nd article - same deal but for cancer plus evidence showing that getting COVID while battling cancer leads to more deaths therefore following public health recommendations is a good thing. Like getting vaccinated, doing telemedicine etc.
Rebuttal...? Yeah, we knew all this too. People battling cancer have their immune systems destroyed by radiation. So of course a novel infectious disease would hit them harder. Protecting people in that situation is one of the major reasons why public health recommendations told people to use PPE, wash hands, social distance, get vaccinated, etc.
3rd article - a survey of staff from an ortho unit to determine if them being reassigned to treat COVID patients resulted in them testing positive for COVID....
Rebuttal: ......? Huh? Okay. Sure. That's a study I guess. But what's your point for including it?
4th article - a survey of older women during the pandemic to determine impacts on lifestyle, healthcare access, etc.
Rebuttal: again, yes. The pandemic impacted people in a variety of ways that were bad. Pandemics usually do that to people. This is a thing those of us in public health are aware of and would like to prevent. That's precisely why we issued lockdowns, recommendations to wear masks (including cloth masks which did an okay-enough job of keeping people's virus-laden aerosolized snot droplets out of the air for others to inhale), close schools, do telemedicine, use staff from other departments to treat the numerous COVID patients that were overwhelming hospitals causing some hospitals to rent refrigerator trucks to house the overflow of dead bodies. all for the purpose of minimizing the impact on vulnerable populations and to buy time for science to figure out better and better treatments so everything could go back to normal. Oh and of course, when the vaccine became available, we recommended that too because that's really how you accomplish that whole "going back to normal" thing.
Oh yeah. I'm a public health professional btw.
The fact that COVID had impacts on people is THE reason why you're suppose to adhere to all those scientifically backed recommendations we gave. It's not some kind of proof that our recommendations didn't work. They did. We know because we measured it. We also measured how not following the recommendations led to more hospital visits and deaths - which overwhelmed the hospitals for longer and impacted more aspects of people's lives.
I guess my question is: do you think that if we hadn't made our recommendations (or had ortho doctors treating COVID patients) then the impact on stroke victims, cancer patients, older women would have been less severe?
Because that's the evidence you should be giving me. Not this stuff. We already knew this stuff.
I can tell you don't really understand the point of the articles you're posting, so I'm not going to bother reading the rest. Anyway, I give you a B- for effort. You certainly know how to Google the words "COVID" and "impacts" but your comprehension is clearly lacking.
'Spikeopathy': COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37626783/
Sadly, unprecedented high rates of adverse events have overshadowed the benefits. This two-part narrative review presents evidence for the widespread harms of novel product COVID-19 mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines and is novel in attempting to provide a thorough overview of harms arising from the new technology in vaccines that relied on human cells producing a foreign antigen that has evidence of pathogenicity.
In this narrative review, we examine the solid evidence for a counter-narrative to the ‘safe and effective’ message.
Key problem areas appear to be (1) the toxicity of the spike protein—both from the virus and also when produced by gene codes in the novel COVID-19 mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines. (2) inflammatory properties of certain lipid-nanoparticles used to ferry mRNA
(3) N1-methylpseudouridine in the synthetic mRNA that causes long-lasting action (4) widespread biodistribution of the mRNA and DNA codes via the lipid-nanoparticle and the viral-vector carrier matrices, respectively (5) the problem of human cells producing a foreign protein in our ribosomes that can engender autoimmunity
Yeah... those claims are widely disputed. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-medical-critical-thinking/spikeopathy-speculative-fiction-contaminates-blood-supply
Why prioritize BONE cancer over much more prevalent COLORECTAL cancer, hitting younger adults in huge numbers now. Everyone has their favorite project. With finite money for research, needs to go where helps the most. All the millions researching and funding new Alzheimer drug that turned out to be bogus. All Medicare Drug plans for seniors doubled to fund that fiasco. Funding T2 diabetes in epidemic? Instead we get GLP-1 fat loss drugs for movie stars. Then public screams foul when cut back purchase of sugary junk food using EBT. Science in US is all social experiment. Been very few major breakthroughs in medicine for decades despite megamillions paying the salaries of researchers. Even the human genome project hasn't resulted in much.
I’m sorry but you haven’t the slightest clue what you’re talking about if you think the HGP yielded nothing. Where do you think we got our template genomes from?
You can’t actually think fauci is anywhere near as unscientific as Mr. Jr can you? Please go to an actual medical or science professional and ask them which one is more based in reality.
Been screaming about this for a while now, and the events of th last year has me given up. I'm job hunting out of Alzheimer's research now that the NIH is so gutted
Canada is current experiencing a brain-gain. The USA's loss and the world's benefit. It will take decades for subsequent administrations to reverse the trend.
Well yeah, when society functions on science and technology, but we also live in a democracy where nobody understands shit about science and technology, this was inevitable.
Maybe we shouldn't have allowed the past couple decades of demonizing experts and intellectuals to happen, but it's too late now.
Fair and Balanced. Tonight we have a scientist, and a dude who injects horse meds. It's that money in the pockets of the "news" media that gave the crazies a bull horn, and the crazies were already loud enough for societies sake.
Look, they were all so tired of feeling sad about being dumb. They just needed a few evil pricks to tell them they could be happy they are dumb. Now they are content with living an entire life of ignorance and smile the whole way down.
No. "We're all going to pay" says it all. Why do you think marijuana has never been adequately researched for pain relief and seizure control? Any natural occurring substance that can't be patented by Big Pharma rarely gets funded research. The "science" of "climate change" such a political hot potatoe. Incredibly people think we know about earth's environment from just a hundred years of observation.
I’m going to stop right there. Why would I care about anything else you think you have to say? You have no clue what you’re talking about. You have no clue what the article is talking about.
I’ve loved Science my whole life, it has improved the life of humanity in countless ways, but because it’s run by people, it’s not flawless.
It got UFOs UAPs wrong, the biggest Scientific event in human history, it looked the other way and declared “It cannot be, therefore it isn’t”
Thats not Science, it’s Scientism, in my mind zero difference from fundamentalist religion, arriving at a conclusion and disregarding any information that counters the assigned position.
Thats dogma, willful ignorance, hubris of the highest order.
I understand, some will shout this down, maybe most, but it doesn’t matter, only the facts are important.
There needs to be a reckoning, some serious self reflection.
My opinions here, and the replies, let’s see how it ages.
Cutttieex | 10 days ago
This is genuinely worrying. When politics starts overriding evidence-based policy, everyone loses , from public health to climate action to basic research funding. We’re already seeing the consequences.”
politebeau | 10 days ago
100% this. Once politics starts cherry-picking or ignoring evidence, trust in institutions erodes fast. It affects everything ,health guidelines, climate policy, research priorities. Really concerning trend
trunkjunk12 | 9 days ago
The grassroots platform of the Republican Party has been for decades now "you don't need to believe something just because someone can prove it, and we don't need to legislate with regard to things that can be proven."
This is in religious rage over evolution. This is in conservative anger over the growing field of sociology proving their ideas don't work like claimed. This is in every scientific field showing that forms of bigotry between humans are not fundamentally based in anything but bigotry. You aren't actually tangibly better than whatever race you disdain. Queerness isn't an evolutionary mistake to be weeded. Misogyny is cruel without reason, not a natural order.
So when their favored candidate does something bad, they're already practiced at disbelieving facts that aren't convenient to their interests. They love being called out for it and getting to demonstrate their doublethink like a party trick. Trump isn't really a pedophile. Housing is available if you just cut avocados. My elected officials don't actively behave in a way oppositional to my scriptures.
oroborus68 | 9 days ago
Hey guys! Want to buy some screwworms?
firedrakes | 10 days ago
I have multiple debate with people. On direct mis info or out right wrong. Science base facts don't fit their narrative viewvpoint
aeschenkarnos | 9 days ago
Where the culture went wrong was giving idiots blanket permission to just “disagree” with factual reality, as if that were somehow a legitimate thing you can do and even take yourself seriously let alone be indulged in that by others. Asimov and Sagan both called it back in the 1970’s. And Karl Popper even earlier.
ScoffersGonnaScoff | 9 days ago
It’s a celebration of ignorance
oroborus68 | 9 days ago
Thinking, because I have an asshole and an opinion,my opinion is equal to all other opinions. Even for things I know nothing about! After all,I read a book once! Vote for me, because I'm always right and never lie. (Apologies to Firesign Theater).
ScoffersGonnaScoff | 9 days ago
These are just alternative facts! And my beliefs don’t care about your facts, …don’t tread on my beliefs!
(These opinions brought to you by FoxNewsMax and the Oligarch’s Algorithms)
wchutlknbout | 9 days ago
Ignorance mistaken for freedom
trunkjunk12 | 9 days ago
Famously, much of this stemmed from the church's political power.
HexspaReloaded | 9 days ago
Insulting people isn’t morally superior to them denying facts.
deathnomX | 10 days ago
Its because of bots online. They just flood EVERYWHERE with propaganda, and will stand there and argue with you no matter how much evidence you have to the contrary. People eventually start believing it.
VichelleMassage | 10 days ago
Public opinion is one thing, but there are definitely monied interests at play in trying to counter scientific consensus.
The homeopathic medicine and wellness machine, fossil fuel companies, automotive and gun lobbies, large agricultural companies... They're all placing profit above people and science. Thanks, Dodge vs Ford decision (1919)!
StretchMother9627 | 9 days ago
Yeah monied interest is why there’s bot propaganda
icareforplants | 9 days ago
I'm not entirely sure it's all bots. You should try talking to my parents. Both pretty well educated. Blows my mind.
copperboom129 | 9 days ago
Its not all bots but its mostly bots.
In the past years ive watched reddit go from a left wing vibe to weird fighting?
Tons of downvoted weird comments about how everything project 2025 had to say is gospel.
Like if you were a hard-core pro Trump Republican...why would you even be here? For a people so obsessed with identity politics...why would you be commenting here where the scary liberals are?
Millions of people dont normally spend time debating people of the opposite political spectrum on literally everything ever.
deathnomX | 9 days ago
There was a recent study done by cloud flare. 55% of all online traffic including comments and posts are done by bots. Youre right its not all bots, but theres better than 50/50 odds that they are. Eventually people will begin to believe the bots propaganda and then we get dumb people arguing the same as the bots.
Reagalan | 9 days ago
Update checkers for apps and crawlers for search engines and other perfectly reasonable automated traffic...
deathnomX | 9 days ago
I agree, but theyre far from the only automated traffic.
botchman | 10 days ago
It's been broken for years, we are just seeing it in the open because of this stupid fucking administration. To quote George Carlin, "The Planet is fine, the people are fucked".
FNKTN | 10 days ago
Republicans living in their own fox news science bubble of bullshit 😆🤣
No wonder trump loves the poorly educated
gufywert | 10 days ago
Dr. Fauci single-handedly made many skeptical of "government medical science." So many seniors of both left and right political views are opting for cancer treatments not in main stream medicine. Many doubt the political interpretations of enviromental issues. The refusal of many to recognize reality of two bioligal sexes, believing trans people can get pregnant and have periods. The science deniers are everywhere on every topic.
deathnomX | 10 days ago
No fauci did nothing to make people distrust medical science. Trump did with all his claims. Not to mention you have 0 clue what any of those topics actually are.
gufywert | 10 days ago
Trump didn’t isolate people during the pandemic. Require masks everywhere. Stop education of US kids. I think your memory already gone.
deathnomX | 10 days ago
Hahahaha man thats hilarious. You think during the middle of a pandemic we shouldve been huddled together doing the same thing? Or not wearing masks to stop the spread of infection? Plus trump was the one who defunded the department of education.
And you think my memory is gone? Your entire brain is gone if you think like that.
gufywert | 9 days ago
Proven now that masks didn't stop spread. Remember Fauci's first press conference demonstrating using any cloth to serve as a mask? Even nurses wearing ultimate haz masks still caught covid. Vaccination didn't stop spread and caused harm to some. The whole covid debacle wasn't Trump. He only followed what his science advisors told him (Fauci main one). The lockdown was not helpful. People didn't get preventive health care, had surgeries canceled, couldn't get cancer treatment. It hurt so many in USA in so many ways. Trump didn't order schools closed. Trump told truth. It came from China from lab Fauci helped fund. Fauci should be in prison.
_Phil_McCracken_ | 9 days ago
Masks did reduce the spread of infection. Why the fuck you think medical professionals wear masks.... The vaccine absolutely prevented covid deaths, and the only reason it didn't prevent more deaths is imbeciles like you that think they know better than the experts.
>Trump told truth
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>It came from China from lab Fauci helped fund
Sweet tinfoil hat bro.
I'm not surprised that you're the same person who refused to even read the article of the post. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT KINDLY STFU.
deathnomX | 9 days ago
Give 1 source for any of your claims. Seriously, everything you said is completely unhinged. And you wont be able to get any proof for it either.
gufywert | 9 days ago
Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34789505
Owing to heterogeneity of the studies, meta-analysis was not possible for the outcomes of quarantine and isolation, universal lockdowns, and closures of borders, schools, and workplaces.
deathnomX | 9 days ago
That page literally discredit everything you were claiming. Did you even read it?
>Conclusions: This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19.
Like its not even 3 paragraphs down. You must actually be an idiot.
USSMarauder | 9 days ago
I've discovered that antivaxxers often provide the best data to destroy their own arguments
Either
gufywert | 9 days ago
But isolation and closing schools & workplaces didn't. Destroyed USA economy, set back kids education, lost jobs.
Like many Americans, I wore mask when out of home, got vaccination with 2 boosters, didn't leave home, had groceries delivered And still got covid. Where? Have no idea as didn’t have contact with another human for 6 months. From groceries delivered?
Got autoimmune Thyroiditis after 3rd booster for new variant causing hyperthyroid thyrotoxicosis.
gufywert | 9 days ago
Papers, all from Pubmed
Impact of the COVID-19 Epidemic on Stroke Care and Potential Solutions
Impact of COVID-19 on care of older adults with cancer
The Impact of COVID-19 Redeployment on an Orthopedic Surgery Department at a Tertiary Care Medical Center in New York City
The Impact of the COVID-19 Pandemic on Older Women in the Women's Health Initiative
Impact of COVID-19 on vaccine confidence and uptake
Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on time to diagnosis and treatment in children with cancer at tertiary care level
Exploring the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on pediatric surgical services
Effects of COVID-19 and mRNA vaccines on human fertility
Impact of COVID-19 on a Neurosurgical Service: Lessons from the University of California San Diego
Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in patients with systemic lupus erythematosus throughout one year
Interventional oncology at the time of COVID-19 pandemic: Problems and solutions
AppropriateScience9 | 9 days ago
1st article - says people didn't go to hospitals during COVID and that impacted stroke care.
Rebuttal: yes...and? Pandemics often overwhelm hospitals which causes care for other conditions to go unaddressed. That's a big reason why pandemics are a bad thing and why quarantining (aka lockdowns) is a good thing. You don't want infectious disease to get this bad so you lockdown the population to manage the rate of the spread.
2nd article - same deal but for cancer plus evidence showing that getting COVID while battling cancer leads to more deaths therefore following public health recommendations is a good thing. Like getting vaccinated, doing telemedicine etc.
Rebuttal...? Yeah, we knew all this too. People battling cancer have their immune systems destroyed by radiation. So of course a novel infectious disease would hit them harder. Protecting people in that situation is one of the major reasons why public health recommendations told people to use PPE, wash hands, social distance, get vaccinated, etc.
3rd article - a survey of staff from an ortho unit to determine if them being reassigned to treat COVID patients resulted in them testing positive for COVID....
Rebuttal: ......? Huh? Okay. Sure. That's a study I guess. But what's your point for including it?
4th article - a survey of older women during the pandemic to determine impacts on lifestyle, healthcare access, etc.
Rebuttal: again, yes. The pandemic impacted people in a variety of ways that were bad. Pandemics usually do that to people. This is a thing those of us in public health are aware of and would like to prevent. That's precisely why we issued lockdowns, recommendations to wear masks (including cloth masks which did an okay-enough job of keeping people's virus-laden aerosolized snot droplets out of the air for others to inhale), close schools, do telemedicine, use staff from other departments to treat the numerous COVID patients that were overwhelming hospitals causing some hospitals to rent refrigerator trucks to house the overflow of dead bodies. all for the purpose of minimizing the impact on vulnerable populations and to buy time for science to figure out better and better treatments so everything could go back to normal. Oh and of course, when the vaccine became available, we recommended that too because that's really how you accomplish that whole "going back to normal" thing.
Oh yeah. I'm a public health professional btw.
The fact that COVID had impacts on people is THE reason why you're suppose to adhere to all those scientifically backed recommendations we gave. It's not some kind of proof that our recommendations didn't work. They did. We know because we measured it. We also measured how not following the recommendations led to more hospital visits and deaths - which overwhelmed the hospitals for longer and impacted more aspects of people's lives.
I guess my question is: do you think that if we hadn't made our recommendations (or had ortho doctors treating COVID patients) then the impact on stroke victims, cancer patients, older women would have been less severe?
Because that's the evidence you should be giving me. Not this stuff. We already knew this stuff.
I can tell you don't really understand the point of the articles you're posting, so I'm not going to bother reading the rest. Anyway, I give you a B- for effort. You certainly know how to Google the words "COVID" and "impacts" but your comprehension is clearly lacking.
Murky_Toe_4717 | 9 days ago
They stopped transmission from the sick, they do not stop the healthy from getting sick if said sick are not wearing the mask.
gufywert | 9 days ago
'Spikeopathy': COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37626783/ Sadly, unprecedented high rates of adverse events have overshadowed the benefits. This two-part narrative review presents evidence for the widespread harms of novel product COVID-19 mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines and is novel in attempting to provide a thorough overview of harms arising from the new technology in vaccines that relied on human cells producing a foreign antigen that has evidence of pathogenicity.
In this narrative review, we examine the solid evidence for a counter-narrative to the ‘safe and effective’ message.
Key problem areas appear to be (1) the toxicity of the spike protein—both from the virus and also when produced by gene codes in the novel COVID-19 mRNA and adenovectorDNA vaccines. (2) inflammatory properties of certain lipid-nanoparticles used to ferry mRNA (3) N1-methylpseudouridine in the synthetic mRNA that causes long-lasting action (4) widespread biodistribution of the mRNA and DNA codes via the lipid-nanoparticle and the viral-vector carrier matrices, respectively (5) the problem of human cells producing a foreign protein in our ribosomes that can engender autoimmunity
AppropriateScience9 | 9 days ago
Yeah... those claims are widely disputed. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-medical-critical-thinking/spikeopathy-speculative-fiction-contaminates-blood-supply
_Phil_McCracken_ | 10 days ago
Everything about that comment is just wrong lol
Murky_Toe_4717 | 9 days ago
That’s called medical response to a pandemic that causes neurological harm and potentially kills people what? Millions died from it?
_Phil_McCracken_ | 10 days ago
You didn’t read the article. It’s obvious you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about and going entirely off vibes.
morganational | 9 days ago
Vibe lives matter? 🤷🏽♂️
Noligarchio | 10 days ago
Nothing you said is anything other than maga cult word vomit.
Rattus_NorvegicUwUs | 9 days ago
Oh cool. So you read some Facebook bullshit about Fauchi, so my research on bone cancer gets cut?
Make that make sense.
gufywert | 9 days ago
Why prioritize BONE cancer over much more prevalent COLORECTAL cancer, hitting younger adults in huge numbers now. Everyone has their favorite project. With finite money for research, needs to go where helps the most. All the millions researching and funding new Alzheimer drug that turned out to be bogus. All Medicare Drug plans for seniors doubled to fund that fiasco. Funding T2 diabetes in epidemic? Instead we get GLP-1 fat loss drugs for movie stars. Then public screams foul when cut back purchase of sugary junk food using EBT. Science in US is all social experiment. Been very few major breakthroughs in medicine for decades despite megamillions paying the salaries of researchers. Even the human genome project hasn't resulted in much.
Rattus_NorvegicUwUs | 9 days ago
That’s literally what I do now.
I’m still facing funding cuts.
I’m sorry but you haven’t the slightest clue what you’re talking about if you think the HGP yielded nothing. Where do you think we got our template genomes from?
Murky_Toe_4717 | 9 days ago
You can’t actually think fauci is anywhere near as unscientific as Mr. Jr can you? Please go to an actual medical or science professional and ask them which one is more based in reality.
Main-Company-5946 | 9 days ago
Anyone with a basic education knows it is the people and not the science that cannot be trusted.
whatidoidobc | 9 days ago
The new Lysenkoism. It will kill a lot of people, that's the only sure thing.
Izawwlgood | 9 days ago
Been screaming about this for a while now, and the events of th last year has me given up. I'm job hunting out of Alzheimer's research now that the NIH is so gutted
Orchid-Analyst-550 | 9 days ago
Canada is current experiencing a brain-gain. The USA's loss and the world's benefit. It will take decades for subsequent administrations to reverse the trend.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-scientists-are-being-lured-abroad-and-they-arent-looking-back/
https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2026/04/25/experts-report-a-surge-in-interest-among-american-academics-looking-to-move-to-canada/
Plants-Matter | 10 days ago
Well yeah, when society functions on science and technology, but we also live in a democracy where nobody understands shit about science and technology, this was inevitable.
Maybe we shouldn't have allowed the past couple decades of demonizing experts and intellectuals to happen, but it's too late now.
Konradleijon | 9 days ago
See conservatives
jcooli09 | 9 days ago
The list of maga related things we are all going to pay for is very long.
humboldtHue | 10 days ago
Fixing all of the things Donald Trump has broken will cost a lot of money.
summane | 10 days ago
More like the one between reality and politics, and that's the definition of insanity
Necessary_Regret3329 | 9 days ago
Fair and Balanced. Tonight we have a scientist, and a dude who injects horse meds. It's that money in the pockets of the "news" media that gave the crazies a bull horn, and the crazies were already loud enough for societies sake.
ISOgoosebumps | 9 days ago
Reality isn't for everybody.
Sorry-Reporter440 | 9 days ago
Look, they were all so tired of feeling sad about being dumb. They just needed a few evil pricks to tell them they could be happy they are dumb. Now they are content with living an entire life of ignorance and smile the whole way down.
bluenoser613 | 9 days ago
Meh. US problem.
Euphoric_Anxiety_162 | 9 days ago
Maybe musk wants to re-write scienctific results? That would be insane & dumb.
TheArcticFox444 | 10 days ago
>America’s compact between science and politics is broken, and we’re all going to pay
In the US, science has been broken for decades.
See: Science Fictions: How Fraud, Bias, Negligence, and Hype Undermine the Search for Truth by Stuart Ritchie; 2020.
umami-boot | 9 days ago
So glad I was able to escape that shitter
gufywert | 10 days ago
Science research has always been politically-linked. Who gets the research money? What gets research?
Noy_The_Devil | 10 days ago
This is such a stupid simplification.
_Phil_McCracken_ | 10 days ago
Did you even attempt to read the article?
gufywert | 10 days ago
No. "We're all going to pay" says it all. Why do you think marijuana has never been adequately researched for pain relief and seizure control? Any natural occurring substance that can't be patented by Big Pharma rarely gets funded research. The "science" of "climate change" such a political hot potatoe. Incredibly people think we know about earth's environment from just a hundred years of observation.
_Phil_McCracken_ | 10 days ago
>No
I’m going to stop right there. Why would I care about anything else you think you have to say? You have no clue what you’re talking about. You have no clue what the article is talking about.
murderedbyaname | 10 days ago
Wow, such confidently incorrect lol.
Murky_Toe_4717 | 9 days ago
“Makes a comment about the article”
“Doesn’t read the article”
“Claims to know more than those who read the article and lectures them speaking down to them.”
Wow. That’s almost a transcendent amount of stupidity right there.
trash-juice | 9 days ago
Can we stop with the hyperbole? America’s compact spans our existence and one admin wont break it
maddystudies | 9 days ago
You say that like foundational shifts never happen. Sometimes it only takes one admin to break something if the system is already fragile.
CounterOld2835 | 9 days ago
Can we not turn this into a /doomer sub
Murky_Toe_4717 | 9 days ago
At this point, “doomer” gets used for anything that is based in reality.
Barbafella | 9 days ago
I’ve loved Science my whole life, it has improved the life of humanity in countless ways, but because it’s run by people, it’s not flawless.
It got UFOs UAPs wrong, the biggest Scientific event in human history, it looked the other way and declared “It cannot be, therefore it isn’t”
Thats not Science, it’s Scientism, in my mind zero difference from fundamentalist religion, arriving at a conclusion and disregarding any information that counters the assigned position.
Thats dogma, willful ignorance, hubris of the highest order.
I understand, some will shout this down, maybe most, but it doesn’t matter, only the facts are important.
There needs to be a reckoning, some serious self reflection.
My opinions here, and the replies, let’s see how it ages.