A lot of the focus in the article is on the ER doctor, but I'd personally like to see more parents be held accountable for refusing necessary medical care for infants and children.
It's understandable that the ER doc didn't know what was happening. This kind of bleeding in newborns was all but eliminated until people started 'doing their own research' about vitamin K shots.
The other uncomfortable truth is that even if the ER had immediately realized what was happening, and the ER had the shot on hand, it was already too late. It's given at birth because newborns are born vitamin K deficient and even with the shot the body needs time to start making clotting factors.
Tbh, I didn't know about Vitamin K shots until the hospital. I knew there would be routine shots because modern medicine though and I asked questions. Those questions led me to hear why this is needed and for me, that was reasonable enough.
I knew they gave a vitamin K shot but didn’t understand why. At the hospital, I asked what it was for. The nurse looked a little concerned and I quickly clarified that I wanted every shot and medicine the doctors recommended, but just wanted to understand what it did. Big sign of relief on her face.
I cannot imagine declining an effectively zero-risk shot that can prevent your child from dying a horrible death. And doing so based on your own “research” (and intentionally hiding it from your medical professional parent because you know she’d lay into you). And after all of that, having the gall to blame the same medical establishment that you refused to listen to in the first place.
There unfortunately needs to be a public health campaign explaining what the shot is and why it's so important.
Evolution didn't solve this issue because it's a necessary tradeoff and evolution doesn't care if some babies die. But if it's your own personal baby, you certainly do care.
There's a more complex organic chemistry explanation, but the gist is it would potentially interfere with fetal cell development, and the very limited amount of vitamin K that passes through the placenta is therefore probably a feature, not a bug.
Under normal circumstances, being vitamin K deficient isn't inherently disastrous for newborns. They can't move very well so the risk of significantly injuring themselves is low, and they have other people to keep them safe from exterior threats. However, because they are so delicate, sometimes changes in blood pressure, breathing stress, etc. cause internal hemorrhages. Without sufficient clotting factors that our liver manufactures using vitamin K, that can easily become fatal. Since humans, unlike evolution, want every baby to live, we give them the vitamin K shot to give them a little early boost.
It's fair to not know what they are! It's the job of the medical practitioner (including a midwife) to explain what the shot is and why it's important.
But once it is explained, it's a pretty irrational thing to refuse. It's a very brief moment of discomfort on a day that was already very uncomfortable for baby, let's be real, and it jumpstarts the body's primary defense protocol re: keeping its blood where the blood should be.
Yeah but they'd have a blood bank to transfuse her. Even if a freestanding ER carries a couple units, I'd bet good money none of them have the set up for an infant transfusion.
If the parents had been able to take her to a children's hospital ER as soon as they noticed the bleeding, I do wonder if she might have pulled through.
Gwen started bleeding hours earlier and her parents waited until 11 pm to bring her in. The shot takes time to help, since the liver needs time to take the vitamin K and start producing clotting factors. I think it's realistic to assume it was too late even if it had been available and administered immediately.
I’d like to see the midwife who handed two Chili’s employees a packet describing vit k drops and vit k shot as the same thing and letting them make the “informed choice” to not administer it.
Another tfumb parent blaming vaccines for autism and then not telling anyone they never gave the shot to their baby and it's the doctors fault ?
Also getting a blood panel or starting antibiotics on a bleed isn't first line for a situation like this.
Although the doctor should have just sent that baby out to the NICU immediately. As an er doc I wouldn't even keep them here . Wtf Texas with this whole er separate from hospital thing.
We have them here in NV too. I don't know what is statutorily required but they seem to vary significantly by staffing and resources.
They seem to be an urgent care with maybe a few more machines. The only time I visited one, they didn't even have a physician present, only NPs.😵
I walked right out.
I had always wondered why Dr Now on My 600 Lb Life was working out of a strip mall.
This whole stand alone ER situation makes more sense. The ER looks like it might have a drive through. My local Urgent Care looks more bougie and well appointed.
Even if they administered it right away, the onset of action isn’t instant. The outcome most likely is the same. If the parents were so upset about not getting the injection at the ED, they should have taken it as directed when the baby was born. The parents chose this risk earlier on and unfortunately, the outcome was what it was.
It was kind of ironic to see them blame “the person who went to school” for not saving their baby’s life, but not trust those same educated people about Vitamin K shots, vaccines, or other medical interventions. They did their “own research” for that kind of stuff. Wouldn’t even contact her mom, who was a nurse practitioner.
Of course, they support Trump, RFK, and MAHA.
And I don’t understand Texas and its free-standing “ERs”. They look like souped up urgent care facilities. ERs in my city are where you go for bullet wounds and heart attacks and strokes, where you may ALSO be transported to an operating room or an expensive MRI or CT machine or more high care unit.
This really explains how Dr Now was seeing all those medically complex 600+ lb patients in a strip mall.
Thank you from an ER doctor. We get blamed when the idiots show up in a crisis after making terrible medical and life choices. The parents chose this. They refused to give the baby a simple shot when born.
Lots of the worst of societal issues end up at the feet of ED docs. Could never do your job! Happy in the little addiction medicine silo I work in. Would love pediatrics, but because of parents like this, I will never work with kids. I don’t know how people do it.
It’s kind of amusing that they were looking for a lawyer to sue the doctor for malpractice, when perhaps they should have started by suing themselves, considering they were the ones responsible for the original negligence.
The headline is fairly frustrating and misleading. To me it sounds like the blame lies on the parent’s refusal of the shot and then the fact that the parents went to a freestanding ER clinic. The clinic understandably didn’t have the shot required as they don’t have a hospital attached.
The article doesn’t even try to establish whether receiving the shot only 1-5 hours earlier would have saved the baby.
It’s very telling that the malpractice lawyers wouldn’t take their case, which of course is only mentioned at the end.
I also thought it was telling that the mother didn't talk to her own mother, a nurse, about the shot because she knew her mom would try to talk her into getting it. These parents specifically looked for information that reaffirmed their views and ignored everything else.
They also spend little time addressing the fact that, according to the parents' text messages with the midwife, the baby had been bleeding all day by the time they took her in at 11pm.
Now for me "all day" with a kid is since they woke up. Does that mean they noticed the blood at morning diaper change and the bleeding began overnight? Does it mean mid-morning?
It makes it seem less likely that a Vitamin K shot would have reversed course for this poor little baby if she had been bleeding for 12-18 hours already.
I’ve got a very controversial take on this and I’m prepared for the downvotes. But I think this sort of thing needs to be prosecuted as child neglect. These parents chose to not give their child the vit k shot, (seemingly AMA), and as a result, their child died. That fit the definition of neglect.
These parents gave their older children the VitK shot, but after their son got his vaccines, spiked a fever and then subsequently developed autism, they decided to no longer vaccinate. THE VITK SHOT ISNT A VACCINE!
Is autism really worse than living with the guilt of causing the preventable death of your child?
It is absolutely child neglect. I was raised by parents who were completely anti doctors and such. Never got any sort of vaccines or medicine (even advil) until I was 19. I had to do so much catch up. I am thankful every day that I never got seriously sick, because I probably would’ve died or become seriously disabled from their medical neglect, all in the name of “health.” I resent them for this even though technically everything went fine.
It's important to note that their son did not subsequently develop autism. This phrasing suggests that vaccines cause autism, which they do not. This child was already autistic. It's likely that the timing of the appearance of his most obvious and concerning symptoms coincidentally co-occurred with his vaccine schedule. This is correlation does not equal causation situation. Regressive autism, and childhood disintegrative disorder, where children appear to develop typically for many months or years and then start regressing, are things.
I don’t see why this is controversial. They’ll prosecute physicians for trying to save this disaster after it’s already been set in motion, but they won’t say a word about the negligence of the parents that put the baby on this horrible path. I’ve had physician friends get sued when a baby has issues after birth when the parents didn’t have any prenatal care and the baby was abnormally big due to uncontrolled gestational diabetes. It makes no sense and the good physicians are leaving due to the idiocy.
>"We were just trusting that the person who went to school their whole life for this would know more than us,” Eric said.
...Why, when you didn't trust them enough to get your daughter a vitamin K shot?
I also rolled my eyes when they said they didn't talk to the wife's mom about these decisions because she's a nurse practitioner and would tell them that they were being stupid.
It's like MAHA people think there's two schools of medicine- the preventative/primary care (who apparently are just trying to line their pockets and give your kid autism 🙄) and the gunshot wound/heart attack fixer who is all of a sudden totally trustworthy. It's all the same medicine.
I’m an EMT and epidemiology and history student. I cannot express the physical rage that comes over me when I hear about these stories. I haven’t ever found a way to mitigate the primal anger of ‘parents’ killing their children by deliberately refusing things that prevent harm, and then blaming the medical staff. And I know it’s only going to get worse.
These people claimed they ‘did their research’ and ‘talked to medical professionals they knew’ but purposely didn’t ask her mom, a nurse, because she knew what her mother would say? Confirmation bias that killed their daughter. I feel so bad for Dr. Malouf and poor Gwen. I have no sympathy for the ‘parents’ and their deadly hypocrisy.
Vitamin K deficient bleeding was almost unheard of, and now it’s back. I’m struck by the irony of not trusting the vitamin K shot, and then turning around and expecting perfection in a very imperfect healthcare system. For example, timely transport from a standalone ED is not guaranteed. No one should be put in this position of life and death when it is preventable. When brain bleeding, brain damage, or death is on the line, why risk even the slightest chance?
I guess decency and mercy would stop a lot of people in the lives of these parents from saying “this is because of you”. And now this case probably has made them feel even more blameless. It’s so infuriating.
I give the parents some credit--they did learn from their mistake and made sure their two newest babies got the Vitamin K shot. Last paragraph in the article.
But yes, their dumb decision to not give their daughter, Gwen, a Vitamin K shot at birth was the #1 factor in her death. I understand why they blamed the doctor. But this is one of those situations where an ounce of prevention is worth a whole pound of cure.
But they could campaign for other parents to do the same, and explain why they thought their child didn't need it, why that was a mistake, and help others with similar doubts or who are being fed propaganda prevent future deaths. They would and could be relatable to other parents putting their babies at risk.
Instead, they chose to try and pursue the physician through multiple avenues and blame her for their child's death.
They could do a lot of good if they chose to learn from this and help others.
This is just one of many stories I’ve heard of people who avoid preventative measures like vaccines, vitamin k, giving birth in a hospital, etc. And then cause these dramatic Hail Mary efforts from doctors and nurses to reverse their stupid decisions. It ends up being incredibly difficult, expensive, traumatic, and doesn’t even work half the time. Often the patient ends up dead or disabled. But they feel oddly entitled to these heroic efforts and almost never take accountability.
Not only did these geniuses expect flawless perfection from the medical system, they had the audacity to contemplate suing the doctor for the consequences of their own ignorance, all while being too dim-witted to tell an actual hospital from an urgent care clinic, truly an Olympic-level display of entitlement and cluelessness.
What a heartbreaking case. I can see that the injection given at presentation wouldn't have been effective for many hours, but I am surprised that they didn't send her earlier or give/prep for a transfusion. Why on earth the the transfer ambulance take so long? Why didn't the Dr realize she was losing a critical about of blood?
These facilities truly often aren't equipped to handle neonatal or pregnant patients. Babies are not tiny adults. They should've taken the baby to their pediatrician, who probably would've sent them straight to the hospital they eventually landed at. I think the midwife is also at fault here for not directing them exactly where to go to seek care. The parents knew something was wrong, but they made a SERIES of missteps as welll: waiting too long, texting the midwife instead of seeking a trained pediatrician, and the choice of a freestanding ER for care rather than a specialized baby unit.
The ER doc at the freestanding ER made errors too, including not immediately sending the baby to the transfer hospital when they presented.
to be eligible for a darwin award you need to remove yourself from the gene pool. this is either by death, or an injury leaving the individual unable to reproduce.
if they’ve already reproduced they’re not eligible.
murdering one’s own children to remove them from the gene pool is an act of depravity beyond the scope of the darwin awards, and these people have gone on to further reproduce, expanding their gene pool yet again.
[OP] WrigglyGizka | 19 hours ago
A lot of the focus in the article is on the ER doctor, but I'd personally like to see more parents be held accountable for refusing necessary medical care for infants and children.
RemarkableGlitter | 19 hours ago
Exactly. The parents chose to put this poor child at risk, and doctors aren’t even used to seeing this kind of situation—since it shouldn’t happen.
fluffstuffmcguff | 19 hours ago
It's understandable that the ER doc didn't know what was happening. This kind of bleeding in newborns was all but eliminated until people started 'doing their own research' about vitamin K shots.
The other uncomfortable truth is that even if the ER had immediately realized what was happening, and the ER had the shot on hand, it was already too late. It's given at birth because newborns are born vitamin K deficient and even with the shot the body needs time to start making clotting factors.
Whenitrainsitpours86 | 18 hours ago
Tbh, I didn't know about Vitamin K shots until the hospital. I knew there would be routine shots because modern medicine though and I asked questions. Those questions led me to hear why this is needed and for me, that was reasonable enough.
peachie88 | 18 hours ago
I knew they gave a vitamin K shot but didn’t understand why. At the hospital, I asked what it was for. The nurse looked a little concerned and I quickly clarified that I wanted every shot and medicine the doctors recommended, but just wanted to understand what it did. Big sign of relief on her face.
I cannot imagine declining an effectively zero-risk shot that can prevent your child from dying a horrible death. And doing so based on your own “research” (and intentionally hiding it from your medical professional parent because you know she’d lay into you). And after all of that, having the gall to blame the same medical establishment that you refused to listen to in the first place.
The parents bear 100% of the blame.
fluffstuffmcguff | 17 hours ago
There unfortunately needs to be a public health campaign explaining what the shot is and why it's so important.
Evolution didn't solve this issue because it's a necessary tradeoff and evolution doesn't care if some babies die. But if it's your own personal baby, you certainly do care.
soleoblues | 10 hours ago
What’s the trade off?
fluffstuffmcguff | 3 hours ago
There's a more complex organic chemistry explanation, but the gist is it would potentially interfere with fetal cell development, and the very limited amount of vitamin K that passes through the placenta is therefore probably a feature, not a bug.
Under normal circumstances, being vitamin K deficient isn't inherently disastrous for newborns. They can't move very well so the risk of significantly injuring themselves is low, and they have other people to keep them safe from exterior threats. However, because they are so delicate, sometimes changes in blood pressure, breathing stress, etc. cause internal hemorrhages. Without sufficient clotting factors that our liver manufactures using vitamin K, that can easily become fatal. Since humans, unlike evolution, want every baby to live, we give them the vitamin K shot to give them a little early boost.
fluffstuffmcguff | 18 hours ago
It's fair to not know what they are! It's the job of the medical practitioner (including a midwife) to explain what the shot is and why it's important.
But once it is explained, it's a pretty irrational thing to refuse. It's a very brief moment of discomfort on a day that was already very uncomfortable for baby, let's be real, and it jumpstarts the body's primary defense protocol re: keeping its blood where the blood should be.
icebugs | 14 hours ago
Yeah but they'd have a blood bank to transfuse her. Even if a freestanding ER carries a couple units, I'd bet good money none of them have the set up for an infant transfusion.
fluffstuffmcguff | 14 hours ago
If the parents had been able to take her to a children's hospital ER as soon as they noticed the bleeding, I do wonder if she might have pulled through.
Smee76 | 17 hours ago
It's certainly too late in some regards, but immediate administration would have helped.
fluffstuffmcguff | 17 hours ago
Gwen started bleeding hours earlier and her parents waited until 11 pm to bring her in. The shot takes time to help, since the liver needs time to take the vitamin K and start producing clotting factors. I think it's realistic to assume it was too late even if it had been available and administered immediately.
yo-ovaries | 19 hours ago
I’d like to see the midwife who handed two Chili’s employees a packet describing vit k drops and vit k shot as the same thing and letting them make the “informed choice” to not administer it.
neverthelessidissent | 18 hours ago
Hey they spoke with "medical professionals". Probably tiktok CNAs.
XelaNiba | 18 hours ago
"Parents who refused their baby bleeding-prevention treatment at birth lose baby to bleeding at 11 days old" is a better headline.
Sufficient_You7187 | 19 hours ago
Another tfumb parent blaming vaccines for autism and then not telling anyone they never gave the shot to their baby and it's the doctors fault ?
Also getting a blood panel or starting antibiotics on a bleed isn't first line for a situation like this.
Although the doctor should have just sent that baby out to the NICU immediately. As an er doc I wouldn't even keep them here . Wtf Texas with this whole er separate from hospital thing.
XelaNiba | 18 hours ago
We have them here in NV too. I don't know what is statutorily required but they seem to vary significantly by staffing and resources.
They seem to be an urgent care with maybe a few more machines. The only time I visited one, they didn't even have a physician present, only NPs.😵 I walked right out.
Dependent_Room_2922 | 19 hours ago
It’s crazy. Those are urgent cares! Not ERs!
biscuitboi967 | 18 hours ago
I had always wondered why Dr Now on My 600 Lb Life was working out of a strip mall.
This whole stand alone ER situation makes more sense. The ER looks like it might have a drive through. My local Urgent Care looks more bougie and well appointed.
brightlights55 | 7 hours ago
The sins of the parents were visited upon the doctor.
leeann0923 | 19 hours ago
Even if they administered it right away, the onset of action isn’t instant. The outcome most likely is the same. If the parents were so upset about not getting the injection at the ED, they should have taken it as directed when the baby was born. The parents chose this risk earlier on and unfortunately, the outcome was what it was.
biscuitboi967 | 18 hours ago
It was kind of ironic to see them blame “the person who went to school” for not saving their baby’s life, but not trust those same educated people about Vitamin K shots, vaccines, or other medical interventions. They did their “own research” for that kind of stuff. Wouldn’t even contact her mom, who was a nurse practitioner.
Of course, they support Trump, RFK, and MAHA.
And I don’t understand Texas and its free-standing “ERs”. They look like souped up urgent care facilities. ERs in my city are where you go for bullet wounds and heart attacks and strokes, where you may ALSO be transported to an operating room or an expensive MRI or CT machine or more high care unit.
This really explains how Dr Now was seeing all those medically complex 600+ lb patients in a strip mall.
socialmediaignorant | 15 hours ago
Thank you from an ER doctor. We get blamed when the idiots show up in a crisis after making terrible medical and life choices. The parents chose this. They refused to give the baby a simple shot when born.
leeann0923 | 12 hours ago
Lots of the worst of societal issues end up at the feet of ED docs. Could never do your job! Happy in the little addiction medicine silo I work in. Would love pediatrics, but because of parents like this, I will never work with kids. I don’t know how people do it.
fluffstuffmcguff | 2 hours ago
Pediatrics 🤝 teachers, agreeing that the problem isn't the kids, it's the damn parents.
throwawayBH90210me | 13 hours ago
It’s kind of amusing that they were looking for a lawyer to sue the doctor for malpractice, when perhaps they should have started by suing themselves, considering they were the ones responsible for the original negligence.
Nfjz26 | 18 hours ago
The headline is fairly frustrating and misleading. To me it sounds like the blame lies on the parent’s refusal of the shot and then the fact that the parents went to a freestanding ER clinic. The clinic understandably didn’t have the shot required as they don’t have a hospital attached.
The article doesn’t even try to establish whether receiving the shot only 1-5 hours earlier would have saved the baby.
It’s very telling that the malpractice lawyers wouldn’t take their case, which of course is only mentioned at the end.
[OP] WrigglyGizka | 18 hours ago
I also thought it was telling that the mother didn't talk to her own mother, a nurse, about the shot because she knew her mom would try to talk her into getting it. These parents specifically looked for information that reaffirmed their views and ignored everything else.
XelaNiba | 18 hours ago
They also spend little time addressing the fact that, according to the parents' text messages with the midwife, the baby had been bleeding all day by the time they took her in at 11pm.
Now for me "all day" with a kid is since they woke up. Does that mean they noticed the blood at morning diaper change and the bleeding began overnight? Does it mean mid-morning?
It makes it seem less likely that a Vitamin K shot would have reversed course for this poor little baby if she had been bleeding for 12-18 hours already.
Corkscrewwillow | 15 hours ago
Yeah, my first thought was didn't they have a pediatrician to call?
No_Fault_4071 | 18 hours ago
I’ve got a very controversial take on this and I’m prepared for the downvotes. But I think this sort of thing needs to be prosecuted as child neglect. These parents chose to not give their child the vit k shot, (seemingly AMA), and as a result, their child died. That fit the definition of neglect.
These parents gave their older children the VitK shot, but after their son got his vaccines, spiked a fever and then subsequently developed autism, they decided to no longer vaccinate. THE VITK SHOT ISNT A VACCINE!
Is autism really worse than living with the guilt of causing the preventable death of your child?
goldendaysgirl | 16 hours ago
It is absolutely child neglect. I was raised by parents who were completely anti doctors and such. Never got any sort of vaccines or medicine (even advil) until I was 19. I had to do so much catch up. I am thankful every day that I never got seriously sick, because I probably would’ve died or become seriously disabled from their medical neglect, all in the name of “health.” I resent them for this even though technically everything went fine.
bluesilvergold | 14 hours ago
It's important to note that their son did not subsequently develop autism. This phrasing suggests that vaccines cause autism, which they do not. This child was already autistic. It's likely that the timing of the appearance of his most obvious and concerning symptoms coincidentally co-occurred with his vaccine schedule. This is correlation does not equal causation situation. Regressive autism, and childhood disintegrative disorder, where children appear to develop typically for many months or years and then start regressing, are things.
Otherwise, I agree with what you said.
socialmediaignorant | 15 hours ago
I don’t see why this is controversial. They’ll prosecute physicians for trying to save this disaster after it’s already been set in motion, but they won’t say a word about the negligence of the parents that put the baby on this horrible path. I’ve had physician friends get sued when a baby has issues after birth when the parents didn’t have any prenatal care and the baby was abnormally big due to uncontrolled gestational diabetes. It makes no sense and the good physicians are leaving due to the idiocy.
blahblahgingerblahbl | 13 hours ago
how is that a very controversial take?
are you fully surrounded by conspiracy kooks?
RepulsedCucumber | 19 hours ago
This one is on the parents.
damagecontrolparty | 18 hours ago
>"We were just trusting that the person who went to school their whole life for this would know more than us,” Eric said.
...Why, when you didn't trust them enough to get your daughter a vitamin K shot?
I also rolled my eyes when they said they didn't talk to the wife's mom about these decisions because she's a nurse practitioner and would tell them that they were being stupid.
icebugs | 14 hours ago
It's like MAHA people think there's two schools of medicine- the preventative/primary care (who apparently are just trying to line their pockets and give your kid autism 🙄) and the gunshot wound/heart attack fixer who is all of a sudden totally trustworthy. It's all the same medicine.
Queen-of-everything1 | 18 hours ago
I’m an EMT and epidemiology and history student. I cannot express the physical rage that comes over me when I hear about these stories. I haven’t ever found a way to mitigate the primal anger of ‘parents’ killing their children by deliberately refusing things that prevent harm, and then blaming the medical staff. And I know it’s only going to get worse.
These people claimed they ‘did their research’ and ‘talked to medical professionals they knew’ but purposely didn’t ask her mom, a nurse, because she knew what her mother would say? Confirmation bias that killed their daughter. I feel so bad for Dr. Malouf and poor Gwen. I have no sympathy for the ‘parents’ and their deadly hypocrisy.
just_laugh | 17 hours ago
Vitamin K deficient bleeding was almost unheard of, and now it’s back. I’m struck by the irony of not trusting the vitamin K shot, and then turning around and expecting perfection in a very imperfect healthcare system. For example, timely transport from a standalone ED is not guaranteed. No one should be put in this position of life and death when it is preventable. When brain bleeding, brain damage, or death is on the line, why risk even the slightest chance?
hillofjumpingbeans | 16 hours ago
I guess decency and mercy would stop a lot of people in the lives of these parents from saying “this is because of you”. And now this case probably has made them feel even more blameless. It’s so infuriating.
knitwit3 | 15 hours ago
I give the parents some credit--they did learn from their mistake and made sure their two newest babies got the Vitamin K shot. Last paragraph in the article.
But yes, their dumb decision to not give their daughter, Gwen, a Vitamin K shot at birth was the #1 factor in her death. I understand why they blamed the doctor. But this is one of those situations where an ounce of prevention is worth a whole pound of cure.
Melonary | 15 hours ago
But they could campaign for other parents to do the same, and explain why they thought their child didn't need it, why that was a mistake, and help others with similar doubts or who are being fed propaganda prevent future deaths. They would and could be relatable to other parents putting their babies at risk.
Instead, they chose to try and pursue the physician through multiple avenues and blame her for their child's death.
They could do a lot of good if they chose to learn from this and help others.
monsignorcurmudgeon | 11 hours ago
This is just one of many stories I’ve heard of people who avoid preventative measures like vaccines, vitamin k, giving birth in a hospital, etc. And then cause these dramatic Hail Mary efforts from doctors and nurses to reverse their stupid decisions. It ends up being incredibly difficult, expensive, traumatic, and doesn’t even work half the time. Often the patient ends up dead or disabled. But they feel oddly entitled to these heroic efforts and almost never take accountability.
throwawayBH90210me | 13 hours ago
Not only did these geniuses expect flawless perfection from the medical system, they had the audacity to contemplate suing the doctor for the consequences of their own ignorance, all while being too dim-witted to tell an actual hospital from an urgent care clinic, truly an Olympic-level display of entitlement and cluelessness.
sickleshowers | 17 hours ago
Phew so relieved by the comment section.
socialmediaignorant | 15 hours ago
Me too. The headline is horrible and this journalist should be ashamed.
FriendofDobby | 17 hours ago
What a heartbreaking case. I can see that the injection given at presentation wouldn't have been effective for many hours, but I am surprised that they didn't send her earlier or give/prep for a transfusion. Why on earth the the transfer ambulance take so long? Why didn't the Dr realize she was losing a critical about of blood?
ksnow2 | 15 hours ago
These facilities truly often aren't equipped to handle neonatal or pregnant patients. Babies are not tiny adults. They should've taken the baby to their pediatrician, who probably would've sent them straight to the hospital they eventually landed at. I think the midwife is also at fault here for not directing them exactly where to go to seek care. The parents knew something was wrong, but they made a SERIES of missteps as welll: waiting too long, texting the midwife instead of seeking a trained pediatrician, and the choice of a freestanding ER for care rather than a specialized baby unit.
The ER doc at the freestanding ER made errors too, including not immediately sending the baby to the transfer hospital when they presented.
pk666 | 17 hours ago
I see this years Darwin Awards nominees have been announced
fluffstuffmcguff | 17 hours ago
Gwen wasn't killed by her own stupidity, poor kid.
blahblahgingerblahbl | 13 hours ago
do you understood what a darwin award is?
to be eligible for a darwin award you need to remove yourself from the gene pool. this is either by death, or an injury leaving the individual unable to reproduce.
if they’ve already reproduced they’re not eligible.
murdering one’s own children to remove them from the gene pool is an act of depravity beyond the scope of the darwin awards, and these people have gone on to further reproduce, expanding their gene pool yet again.
pk666 | 10 hours ago
I stand corrected. They reproduced but then killed off at least one line of the family tree. A semi Darwin.
And I have no more fucks to give about the most privileged people in the world killing their babies with their self righteous hubris