Just wait until they discover the civilized ancient Greeks were commonly homosexual and even frequently engaged in pedophilia, especially the Spartans.
In all seriousness, I assumed that was part of why the US models itself on Rome rather than Greece. Not that there was no homosexuality in the days of the Roman empire, but there was a lot more performative masculinity to make up for it.
It was entirely predictable that the US alt right Neonazi movement would suppress free speech and academic freedom but it is astonishing how fast they're proceeding with their plans. Jason Stanley and Tim Snyder were right in leaving the US.
If anything falls under the core HN guideline, "If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.", it would be this.
I do not know how treatment of a founding thinker of Western Civilization in a top school would not be of intellectual interest.
Peter Medawar's Pluto's Republic isn't Plato's Republic but it's title was prompted by people so confidently and blatently incorrect about content and author that they deserved a shoutout.
So, "conservatives" yell about "preserving western civilization" whilst violating it's core principles of free speech and knowledge inquiry plus banning discussion of a founding thinker of western civilization.
Whatever this is, it is NOT conservative, and it shows no modern right wing argument is ever made in good faith or on principle; the yelling is nothing but whatever sounds good at the moment, and the moment it is inconvenient, it changes.
I find it strange that so many people have a desire to rewrite the history of conservatism to turn it into something it is not and has never been. Conservatism has literally never been about a slow and measured rate of change and balancing budgets. Those are only things that liberals care about. Conservatism has always been about finding some "other" to scapegoat for all of your problems and leveraging the government to keep people in their rightful places. Just look at the major initiatives conservatives have taken up over the course of our nation's history. They fought a war against their friends and relatives in order to maintain slavery. They fought against women's suffrage. They fought against civil rights. They fought and are still fighting against gay rights. They are anti-immigration in a nation literally built on immigration. Conservatives have been on the wrong side of history since the very beginning fighting to maintain awful things and spread their cruelty to new targets. Why spend the effort to pretend otherwise?
> In a statement to the Tribune, A&M said the decision did not amount to a ban on teaching Plato and that other sections of the same course that include Plato – but do not include modules on race and gender ideology – had been approved.
austin-cheney | a month ago
antonymoose | a month ago
orionblastar | a month ago
anigbrowl | a month ago
bell-cot | a month ago
Ancient Greece? Not so much.
jonathanstrange | a month ago
bell-cot | a month ago
cluckindan | a month ago
sapphicsnail | a month ago
toss1 | a month ago
If anything falls under the core HN guideline, "If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.", it would be this.
I do not know how treatment of a founding thinker of Western Civilization in a top school would not be of intellectual interest.
defrost | a month ago
Addendum: 60 minutes on, no one's questioned the spelling or mentioned a 1960 Nobel Prize winner in biology.
salawat | a month ago
Sorry I'm late, but info propagation lag is a bitch.
defrost | a month ago
Peter Medawar's Pluto's Republic isn't Plato's Republic but it's title was prompted by people so confidently and blatently incorrect about content and author that they deserved a shoutout.
toss1 | a month ago
Whatever this is, it is NOT conservative, and it shows no modern right wing argument is ever made in good faith or on principle; the yelling is nothing but whatever sounds good at the moment, and the moment it is inconvenient, it changes.
They have fewer principles than Vladimir Lenin.
tstrimple | a month ago
I find it strange that so many people have a desire to rewrite the history of conservatism to turn it into something it is not and has never been. Conservatism has literally never been about a slow and measured rate of change and balancing budgets. Those are only things that liberals care about. Conservatism has always been about finding some "other" to scapegoat for all of your problems and leveraging the government to keep people in their rightful places. Just look at the major initiatives conservatives have taken up over the course of our nation's history. They fought a war against their friends and relatives in order to maintain slavery. They fought against women's suffrage. They fought against civil rights. They fought and are still fighting against gay rights. They are anti-immigration in a nation literally built on immigration. Conservatives have been on the wrong side of history since the very beginning fighting to maintain awful things and spread their cruelty to new targets. Why spend the effort to pretend otherwise?
periodjet | a month ago
> In a statement to the Tribune, A&M said the decision did not amount to a ban on teaching Plato and that other sections of the same course that include Plato – but do not include modules on race and gender ideology – had been approved.
tmaly | a month ago
ChrisArchitect | a month ago