US economy slows after turbulent year

258 points by Fatimamohammadi_ 10 hours ago on reddit | 20 comments

Benoit_Guillette | 7 hours ago

Trump is expelling workers from the United States and imposing tariffs on imports. Americans will end up with empty stores. His trade war against the rest of the world will destroy the United States.

It’s easy for any country to win a trade war against Trump since he is also waging one against “communist” China. As long as you have access to cheap Chinese products, you are certain to win against Trump.

Around 40% of the food produced in the U.S. is grown and processed by undocumented workers. In Construction, roughly 15–20% of workers are undocumented.

laflex | 5 hours ago

They want us to do those jobs just so you know. This is what's happening. Depop

Benoit_Guillette | 5 hours ago

Masters need slaves.

PotentialAnt9670 | 3 hours ago

Well, here are the jobs Americans claimed were being taken from them, I guess. Time to work it.

zynamiqw | 10 hours ago

>In its report, the Commerce Department estimated that losses from the suspension of federal government services had subtracted one percentage point from GDP in the fourth quarter, while noting that the full impact was likely larger.

The Q4 result means almost nothing. The government was completely shut down for literally half of the quarter lmao

Anon-Sham | 10 hours ago

Why doesnt it mean anything?

zynamiqw | 9 hours ago

Because a federal government shutdown is clearly an absolutely massive dampener on the economy, but as above, you can't quantify by exactly how much.

Keep in mind that it's not just federal government spending that falls off. Any person or company that gets federal assistance also holds off on their purchasing, companies delay operations & capex because they can't get approvals, consumers hang onto their money just from economic doubt alone, etc etc.

Anon-Sham | 9 hours ago

I know how it negatively impacts the economy, but why would you ignore it?

It happened, its a measure of the economy. These lockdowns are going to happen again, you cant just ignore it.

fryxharry | 8 hours ago

On top of that it's a direct result of the deranged policy of the Trump government and the inability of republicans in congress to make any compromises, so it will definitely happen again and is a good measure for how well this government is handling the economy.

Anon-Sham | 2 hours ago

This would be my argument. "No you cant measure Trumps economic performance on the quarter his government imploded" is a weird stanc

bambin0 | 9 hours ago

Because it's not a repeatable event. It's like you wouldn't with too much if profit at a company went down because of a lawsuit.

Anon-Sham | 9 hours ago

Why isn't it repeatable?

If you ignore the shut-down quarter, do you ignore the next quarter too as the rebound isnt a repeatable event too?

Individual_Laugh1335 | 8 hours ago

Yes, events like this have ripple effects. Can you isolate the shutdown and rebound from normal economic performance?

Gamer_Grease | 8 hours ago

Yes it is repeatable, it repeats fairly regularly.

Additionally, whether it’s repeatable or not, it has long-term consequences. Artificial uncertainty is still uncertainty.

Loose_Committee_9188 | 4 hours ago

It is a repeatable event it’s partially happened in 2026 already…. They rather go home then run then do their job. That’s pretty much tells investors the government is not being run well.

Gamer_Grease | 8 hours ago

You are describe a series of events that slow the economy, and not just for the shutdown period.

zynamiqw | 7 hours ago

I am specifically explaining why we know the shutdown was a particularly large but difficult to quantify impact.

What are you not getting?

DFWPunk | 6 hours ago

However, it is still useful information because even their conservative estimate regarding the impact of the shut down on the economy shows that there is a tangible impact when the government is shut down, and a lot of people don't grasp that.