>the kernel handed those saved options from the request socket to the new connection without copying them, then freed them immediately when the connection went away, while another CPU could still be reading them to build a handshake reply.
If this requires a multi-core system to exploit, it's good news for most of the consumer routers that will never get updates. Saved by cheap single-core hardware.
You would be surprised. A lot of cheap consumer routers are have two or four ARM cores. The bigger issue is that they are typically running a kernel from the stone age (< 6.0.0). Sometimes a still-supported LTS kernel like 5.10 or 5.15, but then they stopped at an old patch level.
Heck, apparently even the new Unifi UCG Fiber is running 5.4.213 (September 2022), but maybe they backport some fixes?
I’m in the market for a new router. Got a unifi u7 pro for wifi already, what are the options for routers? Sounds like the only safe thing is to roll your own so you can update things on time.
If you have a separate WiFi AP running your own router on your *nix of choice is quite achievable. I use NixOS since I use it everywhere else, if I didn't I'd probably go with OpenBSD.
> Anthropic says Claude wrote the exploit "after initial prompting," that it runs "arbitrary commands as root, without any credentials or user interaction" on servers with a multipath TCP listener, and that in its proof of concept "it takes 48 minutes to leak a kernel pointer and another five minutes to reach the shell command execution."
This is wild. I'm a firmware nerd, not a backend nerd, what percentage of TCP/IP servers are 'multipath'?
Also, since IPv6 isn't affected, wouldn't it be funny if this is what it took to get everyone to switch.
My understanding is that an app explicitly needs to open a "multipath" socket. Go 1.24 does that by default, so does Caddy, these would be the big ones.
Anthropic only exploited multipath TCP, but the bug is deeper and also affects TCP connections, but it looks like this path is harder to exploit, and it's unclear if anybody managed to.
Thanks. Expanding exploits is something LLMs seem pretty good at so I’d expect people to manage a more general exploit soon if not already. Hopefully it’ll be patched before that happens.
In addition to aggregating, it can also be useful in cases where one link is much slower or higher latency. For example, if you're sitting in your driveway trying to get directions in maps while your phone is still on your very weak wifi network, it's a better user experience to have it to attempt the request using both radios concurrently so that it can fallback to cellular without waiting for a timeout/connection error if you're too far for wifi to actually work well.
MPTCP is an extension that requires cooperation. So it is only supported if the network stacks of both peers and all middleboxes can support it. The Linux kernel docs describe it as "opt-in", so it is not enabled by default for every socket opened on the system.
Again, the description of this CVE indicates that the vulnerability does not depend on MPTCP. But it is a factor in the proof-of-concept and its likelihood of success.
So if there was any widespread mutual support of MPTCP, it may shrink significantly as network admins deploy mitigations.
I had to look it up too since I hadn't heard of it. It's an extension to TCP that allows responses across different NICs. Sort of like Link Aggregation on to a switch, except it can go out dissimilar interfaces, like your wifi connection and your hardwired connection. Looks like you have to opt into it when you set up your socket: https://docs.kernel.org/networking/mptcp.html
It's an extension to TCP that, similar to QUIC, allows you to use multiple address/port pairs to transmit data over a single logical stream. Both client/initiator and server/listener have to opt into the extension. This might need to be enabled explicitly by the application[1], which Go apparently does for you, or judging from other posts may be enabled by default systemwide, depending on your platform.
AFAIU, a major user of MPTCP is Apple and the iPhone, and the ubiquity of iPhone clients motivated implementation in and deployment on Linux servers.
A listener is a piece of software that advertises itself as available to inbound connections. You can do this on a variety of protocols.
Multipath TCP is a neat trick that allows a single TCP connection (TCP = Transport Control Protocol, a stateless protocol for long running connections) to use multiple physical interfaces. You could do something similar before MTCP using bonding, but this was annoying to set up and usually required application level code to efficiently use the bonded connection. MTCP makes this much simpler from an application level point of view and it can use widely diverse underlying transport layers at the same time (for instance, WiFi, Cellular and wired connections).
TCP is in the transport layer! The layers which you name are lower, such as Layer 2 (Data Link)!
MTCP, being in the transport layer, is working at a higher level of abstraction than bonding or link aggregation. There is no need for application-layer support, but it is possible, and easier, with MTCP than with the Layer 2 solutions, because MTCP is in the transport layer. That is why Go was able to activate it, and the POC uses it, because MTCP controls can be exposed at that level.
I’m pretty confused because apparently Anthropic is the group that followed “responsible disclosure” but apparently even though upstream was patched a couple weeks ago, still nothing on either.
Going by the proxmox forum the fix is already in the sources (proxmox released their kernel based on them a few days ago). But I could not see, if it is already released for the users.
Yes, we (Proxmox) included the fix for this in 7.0.14-25, which was initially packaged two weeks ago.
It went through internal QA and to the test soon after that, then a few days later to the no-subscription repository and as of yesterday morning CET it was cleared for the enterprise one, so it's available on all repos of all Products we got in their current supported releases.
For kernel updates we where even more conservative in the past, but with the current churn on often quite relevant fixes picked up the pace a bit on moving them along, trying still to balance rolling out fixes fast(er) while not doing that so fast that tricky (hardware/setup specific) regressions don't get caught.
edit: As this makes the rounds we also released a PSA for it now [0] to make our status here easier to find.
If you read commit logs of, say kernel.org and a distro kernel, and aren't concerned you are blissfully ignorant (and it is worse for the broader userland repos). It's particularly bad when they don't track a kernel.org LTS. Their kernel orgs are pretty lean and this has been the status quo for decades. CVEs of sufficient stature like this will get fixed but majority of other issues slip by unnoticed. LTS is kind of a myth, it trades ABI and API stability for a lot of other issues.
Over the past few months I've started to install newer ubuntu kernels using the mainline PPA. However, it goes long periods of time without getting updates, so it's not really a satisfactory solution. In one case I just built the kernel myself.
LTS doesn't work if you want immediate fixes like the current environment requires.
For years, Red Hat employed more kernel developers than anyone and contributed more. These days they're "only" the fourth largest contributor, after Intel, Google, and Meta, but they are still among the largest corporate contributors.
If that's a lean kernel org, I don't know what a fat one would look like.
My hearsay, from friends and colleagues that work(ed) there, is that the shipped product is not really where you see these "heavy hitters".. a lot of the maintenance happens offshore.
Given the current and rapidly upcoming environment, would that not imply that those are no longer viable choices? As like a fairly urgent emergency consideration?
If they cannot demonstate being systematically able to adapt towards the required reaction time (minutes? hours?) by almost-comically many orders of magnitude (multiple weeks), and it is only going to get worse, then what other conclusion could there be?
Like they'll only organizationally adapt when it's far too late (everybody using their shit has already been pwned), and then it'll be an unpracticed emergency adaptation.
I'd be seriously considering Debian or, hear me out, NixOS. We run all our work servers on Ubuntu, but ~6 months ago I switched my workstation to NixOS and I couldn't be happier. I've been following "latest" or whatever they call it, being able to treat the OS package versions like the rest of our software (update the flake.lock file and then burn it in in dev+stg for ~2 weeks before rolling to prod) is pretty attractive.
They pull from Debian unstable every 6 months and that's it. Afterward, changes made in Debian mean nothing to Ubuntu.
Don't trust Ubuntu's LTS promises, either. Most of the modern packages you care about are in universe, which almost never gets patched after the initial release.
I think they deliberately leave the free LTS version insecure in order to sell Pro licenses. But guess what, even Pro doesn't get timely patches.
I don't think I can recall an instance where there was an issue this bad (a box being vulnerable just by virtue of being connected to the internet, or exposing nothing other than ssh) and I didn't have timely patches for it. I had to turn off my server and home automation system because of this. Really not acceptable at all and makes me want to switch everything to debian.
At least if you’re on Amazon Web Services behind a load balancer you probably aren’t really that impacted enough to spend Halloween patching.
> AWS Web Application Firewall, Application Load Balancer, Classic Load Balancer, TLS Listeners on Network Load Balancer, Cloud Front, API Gateway
> Customers using the above services do not receive TCP connections from untrusted sources directly when following best practices. AWS is applying updates to the underlying infrastructure of these services and no immediate customer action is required if you are using these services. We still recommend customers update their self-managed instances behind these services within the next 30 days.
My FreeBSD loadbalancers block packets with IP Options with default config. It’s not rocket science, no matter how Cloud providers are trying to tell us.
I blocked packets arriving externally on my firewall with ip-options a couple of days ago. Firewall rule has zero hits, and I've got a very open ISP (andrews+arnold), if I want I can host SMTP, DNS, whatever
I switched to OPNsense last week. Consumer grade WiFi AP is behind it. I’m not depending on firmware updates from a company that has no incentive to make them.
It might be bit of an effort to get Fil-C compiling the Linux kernel. As I understand it, it would amount to running garbage collector in the kernel, so some care would probably need to be taken to ensure it doesn't stop things at the wrong time, e.g. interrupts.
It works mostly fine, pretty easy to work with, might perform well when you're sleeping / not around, packages are old (not neccesarily a bad thing). The default kernel is vintage 5.15, so just compile your own. Also elilo really sucks so bring your own bootloader while you're at it.
2027 is going to be the year of two to three major CVEs per day.
The discourse on this is weird, sounds at times as if these are “because of AI.” These are mostly pre-existing bugs, some very old, and they’ve been lurking. If they all get found we exit the other side more secure and reliable.
I went on a security kick early this year, locking down everything as much as I could. Build your systems with the assumption that you WILL get hacked. Limit blast radius. Be prepared.
The next few years will be crazy, but you're right, we'll come out the other side more secure than ever before. Just gotta make it that far!
Will be interesting to see, if AI will cause an increased demand for sysadmins. Not sure companies will go "Make no mistakes" on their (production) infrastructure.
Interestingly, Ubuntu Priority is set to "High" and not "Critical" which is defined as:
"A significant problem, typically exploitable for nearly all users in a default installation of Ubuntu. Includes serious remote denial of service, local root privilege escalations, local data theft, and data loss."
The listed kernels are in the "proposed" component (and not yet in "security" or "udpates") if you want to pull them down onto canary systems for testing before going to production.
- MPTCP is not a requirement, it is a generic use-after-free.
- Exploitability over the internet is unlikely, most ISP routers drop packets with IP options fields.
- At least according to Red Hat, dropping packets with IP options yourself helps, but is not a full mitigation.
- Successful exploit requires multiple CPU cores to process packets, so systems with just a single core or packet processing pinned to a single core are not affected.
There are two types of multipath TCP and they are not at all the same.
What Apple does is, for example, being able to have a connection over WiFi and 5G simultaneously, with different IPs and routes.
The more traditional server side multipath is that you have a network card with 4 ports (eg 4x 25gbit) and connect them to a router, and make those 4 physical ports (paths) behave like a single interface. This helps either load balancing or redundancy.
And it takes around an hour to do this in lab setting locally:
> An enabling property of this race condition is that a lost race only fails the handshake without crashing the whole system, so a determined attacker can retry indefinitely until they succeed. In our proof of concept, it takes 48 minutes to leak a kernel pointer and another five minutes to reach the shell command execution
Tragically not enough people drop IP options. I did it in the early 2000s for a very large US network and was glad. There's lots of obvious reasons as they're generally an old school ddos path to knock out routers (get punted to the RE/RP exception path, a good way to bypass some loopback/routing engine acls if folks don't filter it right). Every few years some academics pop up with let's use IP options because we can stuff more bullshit in the datagram - it's always a bad idea.
Eh, this is why networks ossify and we can’t have nice things like a maintained connection when switching from home wifi to 5G. MPTCP is important, eg Siri uses it I believe?
For more on why MPTCP is not relevant--my limited understanding is the issue is with SYN retransmits.
SYN packet #1 is received and added to a request queue for processing.
SYN packet #2 is received and is a retransmit of SYN packet #1. It is matched to SYN packet #1 already in the request queue and now there is shared state between both SYN packets #1 and #2 in the request queue.
CPU #1 takes on the task of processing SYN packet #1.
CPU #2 takes on the task of processing SYN packet #2.
CPU #1 responds back with RST packet #1 (e.g. requested TCP port is not open) and _should_ defer the destruction of the request socket for SYN packet #1, as other CPUs may still be processing the shared state for the request socket as is the case for retransmitted SYN packets.[1] However, this deferred destruction wasn't occurring, and CPU #1 was _immediately_ destroying the request socket/shared state for SYN packet #1.
CPU #2 races with CPU #1 and reads from the request socket/shared state for SYN packet #1 after its _immediate_ destruction by CPU #1.
Linux's IPv6 handling is unaffected because in this IPv6 scenario, there is no shared state between SYN packets #1 and #2 in the request queue. Instead, each request socket has duplicate data.
Someone more knowledgeable can confirm/correct me on the above please.
The use-after-free occurs within ip_options_build (net/ipv4/ip_options.c) which CPU #2 processing the retransmitted SYN packet uses to read/copy options out of the unallocated/reallocated memory that CPU #1 had already freed up. Remember that the options header is variable length too so CPU #2 is seemingly under-reading/over-reading this variable length options header by some fairly random amount between 1-256 bytes depending on what data has been written to the reallocated memory.[1]
The undocumented part (per LKML discussions at least) is what happens next in the attack. Seemingly CPU #2 or CPU #3[2] comes along later to process the random jibberish options header and rarely (in Anthropic's case it took 48min locally) that random jibberish will be returned to the attacker (e.g. copy jibberish options header to a response packet?) and it'll expose a return pointer to a fixed kernel function. The attacker then crafts a SYN packet and retransmits it with an options header that places a return pointer in the right place, and hopes for another race to occur where CPU #3[2] executes a callback to an attacker-controlled pointer stored within the options header data. Anthrophic's case said it took 5min for this stage of the attack to work locally.
Someone will probably write this all up at some point and it'll be quite a long and detailed read of how the 48min and 5min stages of the attack work and perhaps this is where MPTCP code paths are involved due to the way they process the TCP options header data.
Dual or quad core is not that unusual even in very cheap SoCs, but this particular CVE needs a kernel line from this decade. Thousands of other CVEs indeed..
Was going to say that, depending on the device's age, this law may apply, where article 13 sub 9 specifies a decade of updates is the minimum: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2024/2847/oj
But then it turns out that this "applies from" late 2027 :/
Simultaneously Wikipedia says the Act has "entered into force" in 2024. Does anyone know the difference between "enters into force" and "applies"? Is it like this 2016–2018 grace period for GDPR where it was "law" but not enforced? (The wording sounds backwards if it's that, but I'm not a native speaker)
That's how i'd read it but i'm not 100% sure. legal terms can have specific meanings in a legal context that's different from general use.
but also this is one of those cases where, ok you have a law, but, that's meaningless. It's not enforceable. It's not even monitorable. It's nice in theory to write down a bunch of regulations but at best you can make a bunch of EU companies do some paperwork. anything imported from outside the EU, the company can agree to everything and then dissapear. ALl the direct to consumer slop on amazon and whatever. How is the EU supposed to enforce a law against a random fly by night brand name in Shenzhen?
> As volumes rise, enforcement is weakening. In 2025, the EU control rate fell to 65 items per million items imported. The rate of goods ultimately refused at the border due to non-compliance or because they posed serious risks, also fell to below 10 items per million.
> A large-scale customs investigation launched by the Commission in 2025 highlights the scale of the problem. Over 60% of checked toys, small electronics, cosmetics, personal protective equipment and food supplements bought online from outside the EU failed to meet EU product compliance and safety requirements.
So, the good news is that I can probably now get root on almost any Linux-based device I own. Don't even need to solder on a serial port or w/e, just direct network connection.
Yeah this is really a blessing for people seeking more control over nice hardware with horrible software, "smart" spy TVs, Android (most ads on your) TV boxes, cheap insecure security camera's with only Crappy Cloud subscriptions... Go AI!
Can anyone explain how use after free results in a practical exploit?
I ask because I’ve been dabbling in rooting various closed devices at home. I’m finding AI fantastic at finding vulnerabilities statically (from firmware upgrade binaries), but when you then ask it to use it to get root or code execution it just goes in circles.
In the end it usually ends up there’s no exploit it can find, because it can’t actually influence the affected memory in a useful way. This is especially so if that memory is in the heap. On the stack it’s a lot more predictable (especially with OOB writes).
One example is that you might be able to read what was written there. Here that may mean you could read another process’s packet(s). Imagine they were sending unencrypted passwords, perhaps because it’s in a trusted LAN connection.
If it’s freed it can be reallocated, so then you have pointers to the same area of memory used for completely different data structures, and this can go very wrong
I get the principle - what I struggle to find is concrete examples of how it can practically be used.
How do you know which pointer (as I say, especially if it’s in the heap)? And I know it can go wrong - but how do you do more than just crash the kernel?
In OOB writes in a stack variable it’s completely clear to me. For other situations I’d love to find real and clearly explained exploits of past UAF or OOB vulnerabilities.
Getting the right thing allocated in the right place to exploit a UAF is usually very very tricky. For a defender we just need to know it's probably possible and therefore we patch the bug, but the attacker still has a difficult job to do even already knowing a UAF bug.
The simplest thing you could try to do is allocate several more of the same type of object and hope one of them lands at the same memory address. For example if you can UAF a web app's user session and keep it open for a long time period (not true in the TCP bug), you might try to wait until an admin happens to log in with their session at the same address, then use their admin session.
Or you can allocate a lot of something else objects and hope a certain field overlaps, like a function pointer if you can write to it. Like suppose you can get some kind of authentication callback pointer to overlap where your packet sequence number was, maybe you can send a certain number of packets to make it point to the return instruction and skip the authentication.
One technique is to just spam the heap full of a certain object you're hoping will overlap it. E.g. if you want to affect a connection object, you might try to open one million simultaneous connections, then touch the UAF object, then check each connection to see if it got messed up. This is called heap spraying and it's often seen in JavaScript vulnerabilities, a bit less in network vulnerabilities since it's easier to allocate a million Uint8Arrays than to open a million TCP connections.
A web search for "exploit chain uaf" found me a few real-world and a few tutorial examples, though I don't know which are good.
At a high level, though: once you've gotten a new object allocated where the old one was, you now have two different views of the same bit of memory. You use valid operations on one view to put the other one into a corrupted state. For example: in a unixlike kernel, maybe one view has a field containing a function pointer (for method dispatch, essentially). You read that field using the other view, use it to deduce something about the target's memory layout, write a new value to the pointer, then use the field via the first view to cause execution to jump to a location you control.
Maybe check https://github.com/sarabpal-dev/IonStack-S22U
It has a full chain reproduction of the use-after-free vulnerability that grants you root on Samsung phones with a locked bootloader.
I don't think a UAF on its own allows control hijacking in an exploit. You will need further logic bugs or the ability to legitimately or illegitimately control memory, either via further requests / function calls, OOB writes and such. And it will always be extremely specific to the application vulnerable.
For example, I remember an exploit workshop around reuse of passwd entries. The vulnerable would validate a passwd entry for a non-root user, use it a bit, and later on free and zero it out for security purposes... except it then looked at the passwd entry again in some conditions. Suddenly, the uid was non-zero at first, and zero later on, so later decisions assumed the user was root.
In a more concurrent situation, a possible vulnerability was a shared cache of these passwd entries. It wouldn't zero them out anymore, but you could create a race condition of starting requests as user A, and then hammering requests as user B, so you'd end up mixing up the permission contexts of these users. Because the passwd entry that had been released back to the pool was overwritten, and then re-read with the value from another context.
The necessary line of thinking tends to be very different from thinking about program code regularly.
You need to do some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_feng_shui. If you can reasonably reliably trigger some other operation that allocated the freed memory for another purpose, you have something like a type confusion vulnerability.
been doing exactly this lately with camera firmware and yeah the circles thing is real, but im pretty sure its a feedback loop problem, not a model problem
the model spins because it cant test its own guesses. what fixed it for me was emulating the actual device. qemu with the vendor rootfs, real binaries running, and then every claim becomes checkable: did the daemon actually parse my input, which uid is it under, what does its own log say. once it can check things it stops guessing, getting qemu to actually boot the thing was its own little hell though, took more tries than i want to admit.
the other thing i learned the hard way: most static findings die on reachability, not on exploit primitives. so i run them in the emulator first and kill the unreachable ones cheap, before spending any time on heap work
on heap vs stack, i think that intuition is desktop shaped. device userland usually has weak or no mitigations, heap uafs are way more tractable there than youd expect
Good ideas on the QEMU. I guess you’d have to patch the binary if it’s expecting particular hardware etc?
Not sure what you mean by “desktop shaped”?
Can you give a concrete example of UAF on heap? I’m learning a bit on how this is done, and eventually recognised the LLM is doing something called heap spray. But that seemed to rely on hoping some object you wrote just happened to get interpreted by some process. And that was the “no, wait, pointer f isn’t y” loops.
It goes around in circles because a UAF alone isn't enough in a lot of cases, sometimes you also need a chain (an info leak, read/write primitive etc), a way to defeat ASLR and so on depending on what you are working on and target mitigations. Not all UAFs can be used for RCEs, some can be used only for DoS or for nothing really.
OpenWrt doesn't open ports by default so I think the impact is minimal, unless this can breach nftables as well. CGNAT also mitigates this as a side effect.
If you have services open on the IPv4 net however, close them immediately as a precaution.
Right. The "Affected Products" section on https://nvd.nist.gov is absolutely useless and highly misleading. I don't understand how this can be the case for something so security critical.
My home firewall runs Ubuntu. It doesn't accept (new) incoming packets from the internet. I don't have any IoT devices except printers, whose packets the firewall rejects, and has done since I bought them. Do I need to do anything apart from wait for the patch to become available?
It's okay guys, the authors simply don't know how to write good C. A real C programmer would not have shipped such a basic use-after-free bug. Rust is just a crutch.
> I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing individual drivers and subsystems move over.
Already happening. https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1102982/c3a3a2d4f17108c5/ "Removing binder.c" is an article from yesterday, about discarding the old C implementation of the Android Binder driver (used by every single Android phone) in favor of its Rust reimplementation.
Counterpoint, more than memory bugs exist, and everything's written in C. You're welcome to rewrite in Rust but you'll create countless bugs that aren't memory bugs that mostly already got fixed in the C version. I can't help but think things like fil-C are the most pragmatic route, despite performance costs, for most people relying on programs written in C.
This is a dumb argument imo. Critical vulnerabilities are mostly due to memory bugs (and not for a lack of other kinds of bugs). Most people relying on programs written in C (or even C++) should consider plans for migrating to software created with toolchains from this century. You cannot indefinitely carry on this tech debt.
One issue with this argument is that, almost everything is memory, especially in C. It's not really descriptive. If you write a reactionary language like Rust, it may be possible that you just fix one type of issue (with an error type taxonomy that's not very refined), and end up with a language that does not necessarily cause less bugs and vulns, but that causes less vulns that can be classified as that type of issue, while increasing other types of bugs/vulns, either of an existing type, or of a new type that only exists in that new language.
Like are we empirically seeing less Rust CVEs? Adjusted for popularity of software and perhaps age of software.
Are you saying by attempting to reduce certain types of bug category such as memory safety, other types of vulns would suddenly be increased because of it? It sounds to me like you are saying we shouldn't treat common cold because cancer rates might increase. And what do you mean by reactionary?
Here are some CVEs identified in Rust coreutils [1]. These are mostly really trivial issues. I'd bet money that the nastier logic bugs are still in there and that the people who maintained the old C utils or helped identify the old bugs can find similar ones in these utils, although half these issues probably never appeared in the C version because Rust is much more complicated than C so makes it easier to hide logic bugs in plain site, looking at many of the issues in this article they seem like bugs that are extremely unlikely to get written in C, like accidentally forcing everything to be UTF-8, or aborting on routine errors.
Yes, you'd introduce a lot of new bugs because the code is newly written[1], but eventually you'll get to the same maturity as today except you can't have all these devastating memory-handling-related vulnerabilities
The question is whether your software will be in use long enough to be worth the cost of change more than whether it's a good idea in the long run. For Linux, I'd argue that that's likely. At least new code would ideally be contributed in a safe language, where practically possible (there'll surely be places where you need to deal with memory as a kernel)
Relevant article: reducing memory vulnerabilities through a combination of memory-safe languages and an exponential decrease of bugs as existing code ages https://security.googleblog.com/2024/09/eliminating-memory-s..., from which I'll also quote my reference for [1]: "A large-scale study of vulnerability lifetimes published in 2022 in Usenix Security [...] found that the vast majority of vulnerabilities reside in new or recently modified code"
I'm not suggesting anything like "rewrite in Rust", at least not in general. I'm simply poking at the fact that use-after-free (and other such issues) are effectively deprecated classes of bugs.
The fallacy is the idea that a Rust implementation would automatically achieve the same performance, and not resort to "unsafe" to be competitive, and then be open to exactly the same issues.
Conceptually, there is not really anything much simpler than a matrix transpose. So how did they manage to create a bug? To make it fast you need simd, which implied using unsafe, and the dimension check to make it safe used unsigned integers that could wrap around. So they same bullshit as in C.
I've been compiling a list of cybersecurity RSS feeds to build a small automation (with oversight from Hermes agent) to ping me (ntfy.sh or just Telegram) when a CVE requires my intervention (matching them to a list of services I run for clients and myself.)
My list (of feeds) is still small, but this CVE did not show up, do any of you have any tips for RSS feeds to use for this purpose?
alright alright, what's going on? This doesn't seem to correlate with a big model release? (or does it? Claude Haiku 5.5 is in the vicinity) Is this just Anthropic/OpenAI causing this trouble by themselves to validate their existence? Is this related to Anthropic's IPO?
Maybe broad adoption is the answer? More people are starting to understand how to apply LLMs as tools, some people who previously might have been hesitant are now willing since they're seeing the benefits?
I don't know for sure, but over the past few months I've seen a bunch of skeptical people do a complete 180 and start using LLMs more actively.
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That's also well into clanker managed territory ;) (I mean the clanker builds a small automation, no LLM involved after that, I do a lot of that, just use clanker to build, update, organize, monitor and handle edge cases.) I have used free (and therefore limited) agentmail.to for this. I find the subscription to be a bit expensive for my hobby, but it's a nice service if you do this professionally.
I tried to find a mitigation using a ufw filter that rejects IPv4 packets with too large headers but it didn't work. It broke something essential and I had to switch it off again. I'd be interested in hearing about a temporary mitigation using firewall rules.
Add the below rule onto your machine's /etc/ufw/before.rules to mitigate it.
# CVE-2026-98432 mitigation: drop TCP packets carrying IPv4 extended options
-A ufw-before-input -p tcp -m u32 --u32 "0>>24&0xF=6:15" -j DROP
Any value >5 in this field means ip extended header options and so values of 6 through 15 should be dropped.
Note that I don't just drop syn packets like the mptcp exploit because any tcp packet could do it in theory.
This works for me on multiple servers and home desktops and my hardware linux firewall/router. I did it a couple days ago when this was first announced. The iptables counter for matches haven't gone up at all on my VPS servers that gets lots of traffic. The counter only goes up when I manually trigger it to test. Everything continues to work nominally with these in place.
Finally a usecase for mptcp on linux. Been waiting and trying off and on for years to get it to do something, but now it can give a nice remote root shell. Well, not to me, I just get to patch devices.
The most terrifying part of this is all the devices that might be affected. Ignore servers and desktops. Linux 4.4 came out nearly 11 years ago. While most Linux devices' firmware is actually more ancient than that (Linux 2.x and 3.x isn't uncommon), any device that did ship with Linux 4.4+ is going to get hacked, because nobody patches those devices. Any smart device in the world that isn't a server, desktop, or microcontroller, is probably running Linux.
As part of the Software Building Code (that we don't have, and desperately need), one of the things we should have is mitigation for these abandoned internet safety risks. Here's how I would define that section:
Section 4 Connections to Public Internet
Section 4.1 Device Support
Devices connected to the public internet WILL require one of the following:
a) Guaranteed LTS support for a minimum of 10 years
b) Guaranteed rolling release support for a minimum of 10 years
Devices without this support are not permitted to be connected to the public internet.
Section 4.2 Vendor Responsibility
When releasing devices, vendors must determine whether this device is certified for
public internet use. Support must be maintained according to S4.1. Failure to comply will
result in fines of up to $5,000 per affected device.
Section 4.3 Installer Responsibility
Any device connected to the public internet which is not certified for public internet
use is in violation, and will be subject to fines of up to $500 per affected device.
Section 4.4 Device Owner Responsibility
Any installed devices will be replaced once they reach their End Of Life period,
or after 10 years, whichever comes first. Installed devices in use that exceed this
period are in violation, and subject to fines of up to $250 per affected device.
(These fines are tiny compared to the fines for things like fire code violations, but enough money that a company, contractor, or individual would rather fix their device than pay the fines)
I know it's customary for HN to edit titles to remove extraneous information, but removing "Linux" here really takes away something useful and relevant. This is a Linux vulnerability. If you're running *BSD or Mac or Windows, not affected.
"Why it's urgent: the bug sits in code every Linux server runs when it accepts an IPv4 TCP connection, before any application sees the connection. Anthropic, whose researcher reported it, says its Claude model wrote a working proof-of-concept exploit that runs commands as root on "Linux servers with a multipath TCP listener," with no credentials. Go programs open those listeners by default, per the Go Security Team. See the timeline."
I don't know of any Linux boxes running a multipath TCP listener in my care and I have quite a few. MP generally implies a router of some sort and the intersections in a Venn diagram continue to get smaller ...
This is still an issue and must be patched but I think it will be rare, very rare.
This is not rare. Every TCP connection in Go by default enables MPTCP [1]. Simply running a Go program that uses TCP without explicitly disabling this behavior will cause the running kernel to be vulnerable.
It seems like the anthropic PoC involves MPTCP, but the bug itself is not in the MPTCP code, it's in a generic TCP codepath relating to options, MPTCP was probably just a convenient codepath for memory manipulation.
It's kinda a really bad time to be a C-loving, AI-hating, fanboi.
Do we at least entertain the idea that some rewrites of some things in safer languages could be a desirable goal? (not saying it's practical or not: just asking if C lovers are willing to reflect a bit on what's going on atm).
With only 0.5% of Rust code in the kernel, this does not say much. The binder thing seems to be the only real Rust component so far, and it also mysteriously already had a race condition despite it being impossible to do such mistakes in Rust.
The good news is, if you emergency patched your Debian for php2shell, you probably got the new kernel on the same apt run. This time the embargo actually held, and the new kernel was out before the CVE came public
If AI is building all the systems and writing all the code, and AI is finding bugs and exploits in existing code and code being generated by AI... With the assumption that any code base scanned in its entirety by the latest frontier cybersecurity focused models is secure... This assumption only holds until a more advanced model is created to find bugs and exploits in the code from the now lesser advanced model... Which means even the code the top of the line model just created was never really secure...
How does this cycle get broken?? Will people ever be able to be sold the (false idea) that their devices are secure?
There are microkernel operating systems out there that run the network stack in isolated, unprivileged contexts. Some of them are even not written in C.
[OP] oger | 15 hours ago
Watch your Linux systems for kernel updates. Reboot!
tgv | 14 hours ago
voidfunc | 14 hours ago
mrob | 14 hours ago
If this requires a multi-core system to exploit, it's good news for most of the consumer routers that will never get updates. Saved by cheap single-core hardware.
dist-epoch | 14 hours ago
An entire ecosystem of malware crawling and cohabiting in them.
microtonal | 14 hours ago
Heck, apparently even the new Unifi UCG Fiber is running 5.4.213 (September 2022), but maybe they backport some fixes?
[1] https://community.ui.com/releases/dd0283dc-bf71-4140-ae1d-c1...
FredFS456 | 12 hours ago
snek_case | 9 hours ago
khrbtxyz | 7 hours ago
bpye | 4 hours ago
Gigachad | 8 hours ago
bpye | 4 hours ago
microtonal | 2 hours ago
[1] Yes, it seems that they are still on 6.12.112, but they'll probably roll out an update quickly. Also see: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cve-2026-98432-kernel-update-or-...
khrbtxyz | 7 hours ago
wiskinator | 14 hours ago
This is wild. I'm a firmware nerd, not a backend nerd, what percentage of TCP/IP servers are 'multipath'?
Also, since IPv6 isn't affected, wouldn't it be funny if this is what it took to get everyone to switch.
dist-epoch | 14 hours ago
grey-area | 14 hours ago
Every Ubuntu version in the last decade is currently vulnerable.
https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2026-98432
Patches not yet available. That makes this a big deal.
This article says that this isn’t app level but is level and can be exploited before requests reach apps.
dist-epoch | 14 hours ago
I was talking about the Anthropic blog post, only Go/Caddy enable multipath TCP listeners by default.
grey-area | 14 hours ago
Why it's urgent: the bug sits in code every Linux server runs when it accepts an IPv4 TCP connection, before any application sees the connection.
It reads like it was LLM generated though so who knows. There is at least a simple mitigation for Golang apps if that is the only concern.
dist-epoch | 14 hours ago
Anthropic only exploited multipath TCP, but the bug is deeper and also affects TCP connections, but it looks like this path is harder to exploit, and it's unclear if anybody managed to.
grey-area | 13 hours ago
cataflam | 14 hours ago
no idea, but at least Tailscale and Caddy were opening MPTCP sockets on servers I checked.
theteapot | 14 hours ago
dist-epoch | 14 hours ago
sweetjuly | 14 hours ago
cowlevel | 13 hours ago
ButlerianJihad | 4 hours ago
Again, the description of this CVE indicates that the vulnerability does not depend on MPTCP. But it is a factor in the proof-of-concept and its likelihood of success.
So if there was any widespread mutual support of MPTCP, it may shrink significantly as network admins deploy mitigations.
Noxwizard | 14 hours ago
wahern | 14 hours ago
It's an extension to TCP that, similar to QUIC, allows you to use multiple address/port pairs to transmit data over a single logical stream. Both client/initiator and server/listener have to opt into the extension. This might need to be enabled explicitly by the application[1], which Go apparently does for you, or judging from other posts may be enabled by default systemwide, depending on your platform.
AFAIU, a major user of MPTCP is Apple and the iPhone, and the ubiquity of iPhone clients motivated implementation in and deployment on Linux servers.
[1] https://docs.kernel.org/networking/mptcp.html#sockets-api
jacquesm | 13 hours ago
Multipath TCP is a neat trick that allows a single TCP connection (TCP = Transport Control Protocol, a stateless protocol for long running connections) to use multiple physical interfaces. You could do something similar before MTCP using bonding, but this was annoying to set up and usually required application level code to efficiently use the bonded connection. MTCP makes this much simpler from an application level point of view and it can use widely diverse underlying transport layers at the same time (for instance, WiFi, Cellular and wired connections).
ButlerianJihad | 9 hours ago
TCP is stateful by definition, and that is why it supports robust error correction and reliable streams of data. UDP is its stateless counterpart.
> bonding, ... usually required application level code
No, it doesn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_aggregation
> underlying transport layers
TCP is in the transport layer! The layers which you name are lower, such as Layer 2 (Data Link)!
MTCP, being in the transport layer, is working at a higher level of abstraction than bonding or link aggregation. There is no need for application-layer support, but it is possible, and easier, with MTCP than with the Layer 2 solutions, because MTCP is in the transport layer. That is why Go was able to activate it, and the POC uses it, because MTCP controls can be exposed at that level.
jacquesm | 6 hours ago
swinglock | 14 hours ago
Shank | 14 hours ago
lakeviewterrace | 13 hours ago
swinglock | 13 hours ago
1over137 | 11 hours ago
Flockster | 13 hours ago
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/cve-2026-98432-in-proxmox-...
tlamponi | 13 hours ago
It went through internal QA and to the test soon after that, then a few days later to the no-subscription repository and as of yesterday morning CET it was cleared for the enterprise one, so it's available on all repos of all Products we got in their current supported releases.
For kernel updates we where even more conservative in the past, but with the current churn on often quite relevant fixes picked up the pace a bit on moving them along, trying still to balance rolling out fixes fast(er) while not doing that so fast that tricky (hardware/setup specific) regressions don't get caught.
edit: As this makes the rounds we also released a PSA for it now [0] to make our status here easier to find.
[0]: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-virtual-environmen...
kev009 | 13 hours ago
icedchai | 11 hours ago
LTS doesn't work if you want immediate fixes like the current environment requires.
SwellJoe | 10 hours ago
For years, Red Hat employed more kernel developers than anyone and contributed more. These days they're "only" the fourth largest contributor, after Intel, Google, and Meta, but they are still among the largest corporate contributors.
If that's a lean kernel org, I don't know what a fat one would look like.
kev009 | 10 hours ago
lmz | 9 hours ago
radlad | 10 hours ago
Gigachad | 10 hours ago
fc417fc802 | 4 hours ago
gadtfly | 12 hours ago
If they cannot demonstate being systematically able to adapt towards the required reaction time (minutes? hours?) by almost-comically many orders of magnitude (multiple weeks), and it is only going to get worse, then what other conclusion could there be?
Like they'll only organizationally adapt when it's far too late (everybody using their shit has already been pwned), and then it'll be an unpracticed emergency adaptation.
throw0101d | 12 hours ago
Ubuntu has had kernels in the "proposed" component for several days now if you want to pull it in manually. Not yet pushed to "security" or "updates".
1over137 | 11 hours ago
pas | 10 hours ago
https://ubuntu.com/project/docs/SRU/reference/sru-verificati...
or download the individual package (and dpkg --install ... but this doesn't check signatures)
https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/26.04/ubuntu-proposed-main-amd64/lin...
check https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2026-98432
1over137 | 11 hours ago
IMNSHO this makes them unfit for purpose. I think this is the nail in the coffin for Ubuntu for me.
tln | 11 hours ago
I pulled in from -proposed this time.
Ubuntu was slow on the brotli / CVE-2026-111497 updates as well.
roygbiv2 | 10 hours ago
linsomniac | 8 hours ago
lakeviewterrace | 8 hours ago
No legit enterprise is running that clownware — ever.
vsgherzi | 6 hours ago
voakbasda | 6 hours ago
Times can change.
kqgnkqgn | 11 hours ago
kijin | 3 hours ago
Don't trust Ubuntu's LTS promises, either. Most of the modern packages you care about are in universe, which almost never gets patched after the initial release.
I think they deliberately leave the free LTS version insecure in order to sell Pro licenses. But guess what, even Pro doesn't get timely patches.
xorcist | 10 hours ago
RHEL runs with MP-TCP disabled by default, they initially listed it as Important only to later raise it to Critical.
ashleyn | 8 hours ago
Shank | 14 hours ago
> AWS Web Application Firewall, Application Load Balancer, Classic Load Balancer, TLS Listeners on Network Load Balancer, Cloud Front, API Gateway
> Customers using the above services do not receive TCP connections from untrusted sources directly when following best practices. AWS is applying updates to the underlying infrastructure of these services and no immediate customer action is required if you are using these services. We still recommend customers update their self-managed instances behind these services within the next 30 days.
[0]: https://aws.amazon.com/security/security-bulletins/2026-160-...
sebmellen | 14 hours ago
exyi | 12 hours ago
Another reason NixOS will continue to grow :)
TuxPowered | 11 hours ago
1over137 | 7 hours ago
mikeweiss | 11 hours ago
gwbas1c | 14 hours ago
wtch98 | 13 hours ago
TedDoesntTalk | 5 hours ago
lysace | 11 hours ago
It would be great if they introduced mitigations for this vulnerability though.
mlcrypto | 11 hours ago
Shank | 3 hours ago
[0]: https://www.anthropic.com/research/discovering-vulnerabiliti...
athrowaway3z | 38 minutes ago
daemonologist | 14 hours ago
ogogmad | 14 hours ago
cowlevel | 13 hours ago
_flux | 13 hours ago
jmclnx | 14 hours ago
cyberpunk | 12 hours ago
tosti | 11 hours ago
api | 14 hours ago
The discourse on this is weird, sounds at times as if these are “because of AI.” These are mostly pre-existing bugs, some very old, and they’ve been lurking. If they all get found we exit the other side more secure and reliable.
jstanley | 12 hours ago
I agree, but as yet we have no idea how much pain we have to pass through to get to the other side.
wry_xy | 12 hours ago
The next few years will be crazy, but you're right, we'll come out the other side more secure than ever before. Just gotta make it that far!
jijijijij | 11 hours ago
Gigachad | 12 hours ago
winrid | 6 hours ago
grey-area | 14 hours ago
https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2026-98432
https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2026-98432
AdrianCX | 13 hours ago
grey-area | 13 hours ago
stefangordon | 13 hours ago
SoftTalker | 9 hours ago
Is iptables considered an "application" here? I.e. can this bug be triggered before iptables drops the packet?
vbezhenar | 3 hours ago
codegeek | 12 hours ago
"A significant problem, typically exploitable for nearly all users in a default installation of Ubuntu. Includes serious remote denial of service, local root privilege escalations, local data theft, and data loss."
lowdude | 10 hours ago
AdamGibbins | 10 hours ago
lowdude | 9 hours ago
throw0101d | 12 hours ago
The listed kernels are in the "proposed" component (and not yet in "security" or "udpates") if you want to pull them down onto canary systems for testing before going to production.
peanut-walrus | 14 hours ago
- MPTCP is not a requirement, it is a generic use-after-free.
- Exploitability over the internet is unlikely, most ISP routers drop packets with IP options fields.
- At least according to Red Hat, dropping packets with IP options yourself helps, but is not a full mitigation.
- Successful exploit requires multiple CPU cores to process packets, so systems with just a single core or packet processing pinned to a single core are not affected.
wahern | 13 hours ago
That doesn't track. Apple iPhones are a major user of MPTCP and they report the majority of requests supporting MPTCP, IIRC 70+%.
peanut-walrus | 13 hours ago
stingraycharles | 5 hours ago
What Apple does is, for example, being able to have a connection over WiFi and 5G simultaneously, with different IPs and routes.
The more traditional server side multipath is that you have a network card with 4 ports (eg 4x 25gbit) and connect them to a router, and make those 4 physical ports (paths) behave like a single interface. This helps either load balancing or redundancy.
The latter is what this vulnerability is about.
hdgvhicv | 41 minutes ago
tptacek | 13 hours ago
Aachen | 8 hours ago
tptacek | 7 hours ago
dilyevsky | 4 hours ago
lossolo | 12 hours ago
> An enabling property of this race condition is that a lost race only fails the handshake without crashing the whole system, so a determined attacker can retry indefinitely until they succeed. In our proof of concept, it takes 48 minutes to leak a kernel pointer and another five minutes to reach the shell command execution
source: https://www.anthropic.com/research/discovering-vulnerabiliti...
pigggg | 9 hours ago
iknowstuff | 5 hours ago
pigggg | 4 hours ago
RachelF | 8 hours ago
dhx | 6 hours ago
SYN packet #1 is received and added to a request queue for processing.
SYN packet #2 is received and is a retransmit of SYN packet #1. It is matched to SYN packet #1 already in the request queue and now there is shared state between both SYN packets #1 and #2 in the request queue.
CPU #1 takes on the task of processing SYN packet #1.
CPU #2 takes on the task of processing SYN packet #2.
CPU #1 responds back with RST packet #1 (e.g. requested TCP port is not open) and _should_ defer the destruction of the request socket for SYN packet #1, as other CPUs may still be processing the shared state for the request socket as is the case for retransmitted SYN packets.[1] However, this deferred destruction wasn't occurring, and CPU #1 was _immediately_ destroying the request socket/shared state for SYN packet #1.
CPU #2 races with CPU #1 and reads from the request socket/shared state for SYN packet #1 after its _immediate_ destruction by CPU #1.
Linux's IPv6 handling is unaffected because in this IPv6 scenario, there is no shared state between SYN packets #1 and #2 in the request queue. Instead, each request socket has duplicate data.
Someone more knowledgeable can confirm/correct me on the above please.
[1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/RCU/whatisRCU.html#rc...
markasoftware | 6 hours ago
dhx | 5 hours ago
The undocumented part (per LKML discussions at least) is what happens next in the attack. Seemingly CPU #2 or CPU #3[2] comes along later to process the random jibberish options header and rarely (in Anthropic's case it took 48min locally) that random jibberish will be returned to the attacker (e.g. copy jibberish options header to a response packet?) and it'll expose a return pointer to a fixed kernel function. The attacker then crafts a SYN packet and retransmits it with an options header that places a return pointer in the right place, and hopes for another race to occur where CPU #3[2] executes a callback to an attacker-controlled pointer stored within the options header data. Anthrophic's case said it took 5min for this stage of the attack to work locally.
Someone will probably write this all up at some point and it'll be quite a long and detailed read of how the 48min and 5min stages of the attack work and perhaps this is where MPTCP code paths are involved due to the way they process the TCP options header data.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol_Options
[1] Author of the kernel patch suggests that CPU #3 (three way race) is needed per https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CAL4WiiroQ8XyDzUnmuy5FmJ4SWfZ...
cft | 23 minutes ago
sudo tcpdump --immediate-mode -p -nn -i eth0 -vvv -c 1 'ip and (ip[0] & 0x0f > 5)'
to see if you even get them from upstream
gadtfly | 13 hours ago
rwmj | 13 hours ago
gadtfly | 13 hours ago
rwmj | 13 hours ago
telebub | 11 hours ago
RedShift1 | 13 hours ago
Aachen | 7 hours ago
Simultaneously Wikipedia says the Act has "entered into force" in 2024. Does anyone know the difference between "enters into force" and "applies"? Is it like this 2016–2018 grace period for GDPR where it was "law" but not enforced? (The wording sounds backwards if it's that, but I'm not a native speaker)
vikramkr | 7 hours ago
but also this is one of those cases where, ok you have a law, but, that's meaningless. It's not enforceable. It's not even monitorable. It's nice in theory to write down a bunch of regulations but at best you can make a bunch of EU companies do some paperwork. anything imported from outside the EU, the company can agree to everything and then dissapear. ALl the direct to consumer slop on amazon and whatever. How is the EU supposed to enforce a law against a random fly by night brand name in Shenzhen?
From https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/news/report-highlights...
> As volumes rise, enforcement is weakening. In 2025, the EU control rate fell to 65 items per million items imported. The rate of goods ultimately refused at the border due to non-compliance or because they posed serious risks, also fell to below 10 items per million.
> A large-scale customs investigation launched by the Commission in 2025 highlights the scale of the problem. Over 60% of checked toys, small electronics, cosmetics, personal protective equipment and food supplements bought online from outside the EU failed to meet EU product compliance and safety requirements.
It's just regulation theater. It's meaningless.
yjftsjthsd-h | 6 hours ago
samat | 3 hours ago
teekert | an hour ago
eterm | 13 hours ago
gadtfly | 13 hours ago
basilikum | 12 hours ago
Leonard_of_Q | 11 hours ago
frollogaston | 3 hours ago
vbezhenar | 3 hours ago
marcosscriven | 13 hours ago
I ask because I’ve been dabbling in rooting various closed devices at home. I’m finding AI fantastic at finding vulnerabilities statically (from firmware upgrade binaries), but when you then ask it to use it to get root or code execution it just goes in circles.
In the end it usually ends up there’s no exploit it can find, because it can’t actually influence the affected memory in a useful way. This is especially so if that memory is in the heap. On the stack it’s a lot more predictable (especially with OOB writes).
kstrauser | 13 hours ago
fguerraz | 13 hours ago
marcosscriven | 13 hours ago
How do you know which pointer (as I say, especially if it’s in the heap)? And I know it can go wrong - but how do you do more than just crash the kernel?
In OOB writes in a stack variable it’s completely clear to me. For other situations I’d love to find real and clearly explained exploits of past UAF or OOB vulnerabilities.
cowlevel | 13 hours ago
The simplest thing you could try to do is allocate several more of the same type of object and hope one of them lands at the same memory address. For example if you can UAF a web app's user session and keep it open for a long time period (not true in the TCP bug), you might try to wait until an admin happens to log in with their session at the same address, then use their admin session.
Or you can allocate a lot of something else objects and hope a certain field overlaps, like a function pointer if you can write to it. Like suppose you can get some kind of authentication callback pointer to overlap where your packet sequence number was, maybe you can send a certain number of packets to make it point to the return instruction and skip the authentication.
cowlevel | 5 hours ago
wiml | 12 hours ago
At a high level, though: once you've gotten a new object allocated where the old one was, you now have two different views of the same bit of memory. You use valid operations on one view to put the other one into a corrupted state. For example: in a unixlike kernel, maybe one view has a field containing a function pointer (for method dispatch, essentially). You read that field using the other view, use it to deduce something about the target's memory layout, write a new value to the pointer, then use the field via the first view to cause execution to jump to a location you control.
shrx | 11 hours ago
tetha | 11 hours ago
For example, I remember an exploit workshop around reuse of passwd entries. The vulnerable would validate a passwd entry for a non-root user, use it a bit, and later on free and zero it out for security purposes... except it then looked at the passwd entry again in some conditions. Suddenly, the uid was non-zero at first, and zero later on, so later decisions assumed the user was root.
In a more concurrent situation, a possible vulnerability was a shared cache of these passwd entries. It wouldn't zero them out anymore, but you could create a race condition of starting requests as user A, and then hammering requests as user B, so you'd end up mixing up the permission contexts of these users. Because the passwd entry that had been released back to the pool was overwritten, and then re-read with the value from another context.
The necessary line of thinking tends to be very different from thinking about program code regularly.
not_a_bijection | 12 hours ago
strawberryfarm | 12 hours ago
the model spins because it cant test its own guesses. what fixed it for me was emulating the actual device. qemu with the vendor rootfs, real binaries running, and then every claim becomes checkable: did the daemon actually parse my input, which uid is it under, what does its own log say. once it can check things it stops guessing, getting qemu to actually boot the thing was its own little hell though, took more tries than i want to admit.
the other thing i learned the hard way: most static findings die on reachability, not on exploit primitives. so i run them in the emulator first and kill the unreachable ones cheap, before spending any time on heap work
on heap vs stack, i think that intuition is desktop shaped. device userland usually has weak or no mitigations, heap uafs are way more tractable there than youd expect
marcosscriven | 11 hours ago
Good ideas on the QEMU. I guess you’d have to patch the binary if it’s expecting particular hardware etc?
Not sure what you mean by “desktop shaped”?
Can you give a concrete example of UAF on heap? I’m learning a bit on how this is done, and eventually recognised the LLM is doing something called heap spray. But that seemed to rely on hoping some object you wrote just happened to get interpreted by some process. And that was the “no, wait, pointer f isn’t y” loops.
foltik | 11 hours ago
lossolo | 12 hours ago
bpye | 4 hours ago
From experience OpenAI and Anthropic have pretty heavy safeguards in recent (public) models.
marcosscriven | 2 hours ago
lakeviewterrace | 13 hours ago
ronnier | 13 hours ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/openwrt/comments/1xka85h/is_the_ope...
They say 25.12-SNAPSHOT has it fixed
lunar_rover | 13 hours ago
If you have services open on the IPv4 net however, close them immediately as a precaution.
basilikum | 12 hours ago
flaburgan | 12 hours ago
pamcake | 10 hours ago
bana-io | 13 hours ago
lakeviewterrace | 13 hours ago
rurban | 13 hours ago
I see. https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2026-98432 affected versions format is the culprit. Entirely unusable. We do have versions, branch names and tags for a reason.
pizza234 | 13 hours ago
Mawr | 10 hours ago
geye1234 | 13 hours ago
nikanj | 10 hours ago
bakies | 4 hours ago
winwang | 12 hours ago
TOMDM | 11 hours ago
Vibe code aside I feel targeted rewrites are becoming more and more justified.
Gigachad | 10 hours ago
The Linux maintainers have been extremely conservative with the Rust introduction but after the endless CVE apocalypse they might be more receptive.
cesarb | 6 hours ago
Already happening. https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1102982/c3a3a2d4f17108c5/ "Removing binder.c" is an article from yesterday, about discarding the old C implementation of the Android Binder driver (used by every single Android phone) in favor of its Rust reimplementation.
veltas | 10 hours ago
herni | 9 hours ago
Gigachad | 8 hours ago
TZubiri | 7 hours ago
Like are we empirically seeing less Rust CVEs? Adjusted for popularity of software and perhaps age of software.
3OCSzk | 4 hours ago
veltas | 3 hours ago
[1] https://corrode.dev/blog/bugs-rust-wont-catch/
Aachen | 8 hours ago
The question is whether your software will be in use long enough to be worth the cost of change more than whether it's a good idea in the long run. For Linux, I'd argue that that's likely. At least new code would ideally be contributed in a safe language, where practically possible (there'll surely be places where you need to deal with memory as a kernel)
Relevant article: reducing memory vulnerabilities through a combination of memory-safe languages and an exponential decrease of bugs as existing code ages https://security.googleblog.com/2024/09/eliminating-memory-s..., from which I'll also quote my reference for [1]: "A large-scale study of vulnerability lifetimes published in 2022 in Usenix Security [...] found that the vast majority of vulnerabilities reside in new or recently modified code"
winwang | 6 hours ago
uecker | an hour ago
Illustrative example: This CVE in a Rust matrix transpose code: https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-5gmm-6m36-r7jh
Conceptually, there is not really anything much simpler than a matrix transpose. So how did they manage to create a bug? To make it fast you need simd, which implied using unsafe, and the dimension check to make it safe used unsigned integers that could wrap around. So they same bullshit as in C.
athrowaway3z | 21 minutes ago
Rust can separate the question: "Is a set of functions is safe in a certain condition" from "using functions in that condition".
They are materially different. SIMD has a safe interface now.
dofm | 12 hours ago
teekert | 12 hours ago
My list (of feeds) is still small, but this CVE did not show up, do any of you have any tips for RSS feeds to use for this purpose?
hostyle | 11 hours ago
6thbit | 9 hours ago
rf15 | 3 hours ago
wickedsight | 2 hours ago
I don't know for sure, but over the past few months I've seen a bunch of skeptical people do a complete 180 and start using LLMs more actively.
rf15 | 47 minutes ago
teekert | 36 minutes ago
BoldColdHold | an hour ago
teekert | an hour ago
CubsFan1060 | 11 hours ago
teekert | an hour ago
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That's also well into clanker managed territory ;) (I mean the clanker builds a small automation, no LLM involved after that, I do a lot of that, just use clanker to build, update, organize, monitor and handle edge cases.) I have used free (and therefore limited) agentmail.to for this. I find the subscription to be a bit expensive for my hobby, but it's a nice service if you do this professionally.
avtar | 11 hours ago
https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/
teekert | an hour ago
jonathanstrange | 12 hours ago
superkuh | 9 hours ago
This works for me on multiple servers and home desktops and my hardware linux firewall/router. I did it a couple days ago when this was first announced. The iptables counter for matches haven't gone up at all on my VPS servers that gets lots of traffic. The counter only goes up when I manually trigger it to test. Everything continues to work nominally with these in place.
jck86 | 12 hours ago
grommz | 11 hours ago
0xbadcafebee | 11 hours ago
As part of the Software Building Code (that we don't have, and desperately need), one of the things we should have is mitigation for these abandoned internet safety risks. Here's how I would define that section:
(These fines are tiny compared to the fines for things like fire code violations, but enough money that a company, contractor, or individual would rather fix their device than pay the fines)lionkor | 2 hours ago
asveikau | 11 hours ago
I know it's customary for HN to edit titles to remove extraneous information, but removing "Linux" here really takes away something useful and relevant. This is a Linux vulnerability. If you're running *BSD or Mac or Windows, not affected.
tcdent | 10 hours ago
arcanemachiner | 10 hours ago
_leom | 9 hours ago
smallerize | 9 hours ago
loloquwowndueo | 8 hours ago
ButlerianJihad | 8 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OOM&diff=prev&old...
gerdesj | 9 hours ago
"Why it's urgent: the bug sits in code every Linux server runs when it accepts an IPv4 TCP connection, before any application sees the connection. Anthropic, whose researcher reported it, says its Claude model wrote a working proof-of-concept exploit that runs commands as root on "Linux servers with a multipath TCP listener," with no credentials. Go programs open those listeners by default, per the Go Security Team. See the timeline."
I don't know of any Linux boxes running a multipath TCP listener in my care and I have quite a few. MP generally implies a router of some sort and the intersections in a Venn diagram continue to get smaller ...
This is still an issue and must be patched but I think it will be rare, very rare.
reissbaker | 9 hours ago
1: https://groups.google.com/g/golang-announce/c/PCoQcdxoScw
Eueudhsbsj32 | 49 minutes ago
TZubiri | 7 hours ago
compumike | 6 hours ago
TacticalCoder | 11 hours ago
(reading TFA)
Ah yup.And moreover it's a security issue found by LLMs.
It's kinda a really bad time to be a C-loving, AI-hating, fanboi.
Do we at least entertain the idea that some rewrites of some things in safer languages could be a desirable goal? (not saying it's practical or not: just asking if C lovers are willing to reflect a bit on what's going on atm).
secondcoming | 10 hours ago
TZubiri | 10 hours ago
i’d focus on writing new stuff with rust though, not rewriting old stuff
and time will tell whether it actually reduces bugs or just change the failure modes to something else
also C will always be there in some way or the other, at least in conventions and syntax
uecker | an hour ago
nektro | 11 hours ago
actual link: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/cve-2026-98432
9cb14c1ec0 | 10 hours ago
nikanj | 10 hours ago
Gigachad | 10 hours ago
At work we currently have a weekly release schedule but im going to push to speed it up because 1 week is far too long to leave packages out of date.
fergonco | 10 hours ago
treebeard901 | 8 hours ago
How does this cycle get broken?? Will people ever be able to be sold the (false idea) that their devices are secure?
The implications are extensive.
bpye | 4 hours ago
The models that many organisations and most individuals don't have access to?
Gigachad | 8 hours ago
Random npm packages are another thing.
bpye | 4 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor
rvz | 9 hours ago
frunzales | 10 hours ago
# CONFIG_MPTCP is not set
Jach | 7 hours ago
jeffbee | 9 hours ago
kaoD | 9 hours ago
PiRho3141 | 4 hours ago
hansvm | 9 hours ago
dhx | 8 hours ago
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[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/?q=tcp_v4_reqsk_destructor -- check for "kfree_rcu" being used instead of "kfree" within "tcp_v4_reqsk_destructor" (net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c)
iknowstuff | 5 hours ago
ustad | 2 hours ago
edejong | an hour ago