Report: White House drafting executive order linking vaccines and autism

2050 points by esporx a month ago on reddit | 397 comments

garg4ntua | a month ago

Next is an executive order in climate change denial.
What's next? Executive order for flat earth?

Breaking news: executive orders do not bend reality.

powerlesshero111 | a month ago

But they do force federal employees to enforce stupid policies. Trump has turned executive orders into bastards of what they were meant. But, on the plus side, you can invest in iron lungs and wheelchairs because polio is about to make a comeback.

Cpt_Covfefe | a month ago

What's the status on the current polio vaccine and what's in circulation? Might as well get boosters or vaccinate now before it's outlawed.

powerlesshero111 | a month ago

So, pretty much, if you were born before roughly 2005 you definitely got the vaccine. If after, you might have the antivaxxer parents, who think vaccines are wizard poison. Polio was erradicated from the US, but still exists worldwide, so the vaccine is readily available and actually very cheap to make. You really only need it once, but again, if people had antivaxxer parents, they are fucked. Also, measles causes immune system amnesia, so if you got the polio vaccine and then got measles, you potentially could get polio.

Like there's big reasons why vaccines are important, and RFK Jr is a full on murderer for telling people to not get them.

Cpt_Covfefe | a month ago

I'm worried for the children and adults that never got antibodies from the aforementioned vaccines. Even if you don't know you got it, isn't it helping everybody out to get it regardless?

I certainly believe he has malice in his soul towards other humans.

Worshipme988 | a month ago

The man stopped a family drive (with other kennedys, nay, human beings) to cut out roadkill raccoon genitalia (male, female? Who knows!) and bring it home to “study”.

These are not the actions of a sane person. This was also decades ago.

He was found with a bear cub stabbed up…he “found”, and was going to make into a “rug”.

This man needed to be in jail years ago. Hes fucking weird. And gross.

The dude sounds like his innards are a single tube from his mouth to his asshole and only one can be opened at a time. It sounds like has to close his asshole like a trach tube to talk.

The man embodies inbred intelligence, down to the single point iq.

Kryptosis | a month ago

People say “what’s the big deal” when our politicians get their talking points from our enemies who want our total obliteration.

As if they aren’t lab distilled creations intended to dismantle our stability.

ghostface1078 | a month ago

But all of rfk’s kids were vaccinated I wonder why

Marvin_is_my_martian | a month ago

Oh shit, I did not know that about vaccines.

Mindless-Equal-1477 | a month ago

Best way is if you can afford it, go to the doctor and ask them to check your titers. Rarely, some people need to be re-vaccinated for certain diseases. If you were born pre-2005 you should likely also have been given MMR and should not catch measles. If you’re not sure about your vaccine record, you should be able to request an updated one from your county health department or specific state organizations (I just had to do this on short notice for a job.) Not a medical professional, just helping by adding info some may not be aware of in order to prepare for if these idiots try to make things worse. Again.

arianrhodd | a month ago

Or, before your insurance refuses to cover it. Insurance coverage of vaccines is typically based on ACIP/CDC recommendations. If they cease to recommend them, our for-profit healthcare system will likely render them unaffordable.

And we're very likely about to lose our elimination status for measles. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Dhiox | a month ago

Eh, you're insurance wants you vaccinated, vaccines are cheaper than a hospital stay

reidfan1 | a month ago

Hospital systems and insurance companies should simply refuse service to the unvaccinated.

Dhiox | a month ago

Not how emergency rooms work

reidfan1 | a month ago

Yea change that. Dirty diseased garbage people shouldn’t be allowed

Special_Order-937 | a month ago

polioeradication.org is an excellent resource, at one point we had polio down to just two countries (Pakistan and Afghanistan) and about three dozen reported cases but there’s been some setbacks since then.

pell80 | a month ago

Interesting, didn't the last person in an iron lung die because they couldn't get replacement parts to fix it when it broke?

JCBQ01 | a month ago

This traitorous asshole is attempting to rule by imperial decree

Valuable-Gene2534 | a month ago

Federal employees have lots of discretion to look the other way.

tiutome | a month ago

Dayum… the FACTS!
Don’t tell the MAGAs what they haven’t thought of. Shyt!

ven-solaire | a month ago

>>> Trump has turned executive orders into bastards of what they were meant [to be].

Kind of, trump and his administration just take everything already possible and actually use it to the extent they’re able to. Yeah, this isn’t what they were supposed to be used for, but anything Trump’s admin does that sticks in the end was enabled by an incomplete system of checks and balances that no other administrator has fully taken advantage of. We live in an era where stupidity has taken control and the bullshit he does wouldn’t have worked on the voting population or on even his own party a couple decades ago. There’s no checks and balances for this shit because nobody ever expected a wannabe personalist dictator to actually win an election.

Imwhatswrongwithyou | a month ago

Executive order to smoke more cigarettes

Schrodingers_janitor | a month ago

If you don't smoke Tarletons...fuck you.

SemanticTriangle | a month ago

It's time for the Indiana pi bill to receive the second reading it deserves. Irrational advocates for insane, never ending digits in shambles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill

bratisla_boy | a month ago

Which should have been renamed the bloody stupid Johnson bill. Ooook.

DontBeMoronic | a month ago

Librarian?

cheweychewchew | a month ago

The next EO is definitely going to be linking windmills to cancer.

steveschoenberg | a month ago

President Donald Trump is going to reduce scientific misinformation by 500%, 800%, maybe 1500%. /s

Ok-Jelly604 | a month ago

in two weeks maybe

seejordan3 | a month ago

You clearly need to pay more tarifs.

kazh_9742 | a month ago

Foreign assets all up and down our government and society are attacking this country and cooking the planet and people don't seem to give a shit. Reality is what they say it is at this point.

garg4ntua | a month ago

*governmentS
**CountrieS

Twitchmonky | a month ago

They do if you use a sharpie!

RedBMWZ2 | a month ago

They don't need to, they just need to placate the idiots who vote for them

m0rbius | a month ago

That climate change denial order is definitely coming. They vehemently don't believe in it.

ArchStanton75 | a month ago

It’s not that they don’t believe in it. It’s that acknowledging it and doing what must be done would hurt his donor’s profits. The most malicious thing about this administration is that they know what they’re doing is evil, but do it anyway for profit.

AmazingRefrigerator4 | a month ago

As president, I have signed an EO that confirms the moon is made of cheese.

DragonTacoCat | a month ago

And

Are

Not

Laws

Kay_tnx_bai | a month ago

executive order that the poors aren’t poor enough.

LAFAYETTE-LAFAYETTE | a month ago

EO that we are a Christian nation probably.

Pristine-Pen-9885 | a month ago

I get all the vaccinations I can get. I hope that won’t make me a criminal next year.

shouldazagged | a month ago

Executive order that the smell isn’t coming from the diaper

SunflaresAteMyLunch | a month ago

But they bend the perception and application of reality, which is every bit as important

DanGleeballs | a month ago

But how does Trump make more money from this?

hybridfrost | a month ago

They didn’t say it, they (executive) ordered it!

PS I hate it here

OccumsRazorReturns | a month ago

Executive order: Exec orders now bend reality

Even_Caterpillar3292 | a month ago

Its all a distraction all of it.

Advanced_Engineer_89 | a month ago

I thought they said my mom took Tylenol

Lost_Department_2177 | a month ago

It’s heritage foundation trying to induce learned helplessness so people are docile but also the crazy making is to cause Factitious disorder imposed on another which is also called munchausen by proxy.

They try to unhinge people so there’s a higher chance they commit a crime.

More crime means more low wage prison labor.

Taylor farms accepts prison labor and they sell produce to all the major fast food restaurants.

Look at j6. They made all those people more insane then used it as an excuse to buy tons of flock cameras while hiring more staff with increased doj budgets. Their friends made trillions from this but now they’re getting rid of them because the j6’rs they hired are using them to commit felony stalking and harassment.

Not saying all officers and agents are terrible but it’s an issue all the way up to the NSA.

Look up “loveint”

RepubMocrat_Party | a month ago

Fauci deff bent reality.

squashua | a month ago

Republicans VS Reality, who will win?

Kahnza | a month ago

Money Trumps Reality

knewbie_one | a month ago

Reality punches back

Murphy and Darwin rolls a dice

MajorInWumbology1234 | a month ago

On one hand, reality will certainly always win out in the end. Unfortunately, it doesn’t check for deservedness and it will be poor people in the future who absorb all of the blowback.

Coders32 | a month ago

Phew, that’s a relief. I thought you were gonna say the shareholders, the only people we should worry about

The shareholders are often suckers (pension funds, etc)

Indigo2015 | a month ago

Nat 20

onlyacynicalman | a month ago

I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that verb any longer.

Kahnza | a month ago

It's doing double doody in that sentence

onlyacynicalman | a month ago

Hah, okay, I'll allow it

QuietudeOfHeart | a month ago

This must be the order of operations… just waiting on that last one there.

buddhistbulgyo | a month ago

Oil companies pushing that global warming is a hoax have a president in power. So I guess they're winning.

RogerMexicosBalls | a month ago

That'll be another EO:

"We're always right about everything, and, um, everyone has to listen to us all the time, and, uhh, we can do whatever we want and the rest of you dumb-heads are ILLEGAL. Oh, and, um, mom says you have to let us have your video games."

His supporters cheer

theRemixNow | a month ago

Do they get a free lifetime supply of cheez-its and Kool lites?

Azulaatlantica | a month ago

Epic Rap Battles of History!!!!

Accidental-Genius | a month ago

Republicans most likely. The democrats won’t vote because they disagree with a candidate over a single issue. Republicans will vote because they agree with a candidate on a single made up issue.

Eat--The--Rich-- | a month ago

Republicans, because democrats are too cowardly to fight for reality

Aliktren | a month ago

Executive order to stop the tide coming in

00001000U | a month ago

They're currently punishing Canada because wildfire smoke crossed the boarder, so . . .

RogerMexicosBalls | a month ago

Issued at high tide so MAGA sees the lowering levels and think "dang, you see that Trav? Don's done it again!"

CatGooseChook | a month ago

Indiana actually did try to change the value of pi in 1897. Slightly off topic I know but couldn't help remembering it when I read your comment 🤷😊

Paula_Polestark | a month ago

Put him in a throne on the beach so he can give the order up close and personal. His cult loves it when he shows off.

big_trike | a month ago

On the cartoon I Am Weasel, the baboon became president and repealed the law of gravity. Trump reminds me of that episode.

Chemical-Ebb6472 | a month ago

I hear by decree that science doesn’t exist anymore!

springfinger | a month ago

I hear it too pal.

chockingduck | a month ago

They are literally aiming for this 100%. This is what happens when you let religion into the building.

Religion is a plague on humanity

EightEx | a month ago

After we remove them from power they better be held to account for all of this. The whole Trump admin itself should have assets seized and used to make up for the damage

HSG_Messi | a month ago

Spoiler Alert: They won't be.

There's 70+ million Americans that agree with all of this that is happening and its only going to get worse as we continue to attack and destroy our education system

EightEx | a month ago

I don't think its as much as people think. Even in my dyed in the wool Republican home town theres a lot of pushback against this admin. Certainly there are Maga cultists out there but I believe they aren't the majority.

plinkoplonka | a month ago

They'll all fold like a wet napkin as soon as they see the walls start to crumble and the canaries truly start to sing.

The only reason any of them are confident enough to say the shit they're saying out loud now is because of social media manipulation by the likes of fElon.

Strip that away and it's easy to tackle them outside their echo chamber. They can't stand together if they don't have someone regurgitating ideas for them to parrot.

jregovic | a month ago

But those dyed in the wool Republicans aren’t going to vote for anyone but a Republican for the House or Senate. Sure, they might vote for the more moderate candidate in the primary, but they aren’t going to actually hold anyone to account.

Tall-Photo-7481 | a month ago

At this point there is only one way to remove them from power. The good news is that the "holding them to account" bit is kind of baked in to that method.

MoodyPrince_XoXo | a month ago

This is all a symptom of larger cultural and societal failures. It's not going anywhere. The effects of today will be felt for generations, as it always is. There are a great many kids growing up knowing nothing other than the maga brained lack of ideals they were given by their insecure father.

BennettWindy | a month ago

Please, Americans don’t hold the rich responsible for anything except stealing from other rich people.

Example:  Almost no one went to jail for the 2008 financial crisis that ruined the lives of  working class people.

But, Bernie Madoff was sentenced to 150 years for stealing from wealthy people.

popejohnsmith | a month ago

Calling all accountants.

healthywenis | a month ago

I’m honestly surprised they haven’t simply denied Autism at this point but I guess its more politically advantageous to link it to vaccines.

nelsonalgrencametome | a month ago

They're saving that for when they need to kick more people off of Medicaid and social security.

SuperVaderMinion | a month ago

And a couple years after that when they need the next group of people to toss into camps

Traditional-Handle83 | a month ago

There won't be any kicking people off those programs because they'll just end the programs altogether.

They’ll eventually “cure” autism by rounding up autistic people and forcing them into abusive “therapies.”

FamiliarAnt4043 | a month ago

Yeah, that's a hard pass from me. My youngest is pretty bad off and he's not gonna go anywhere. Not while I'm alive and have ammo.

ghoulthebraineater | a month ago

Fuck that. This autist has a special interest in shooting. I will not go quietly.

Ashamed-Raccoon-1387 | a month ago

No, thanks.

AtheIstan | a month ago

Just stop testing for autism.

pegothejerk | a month ago

Autism will disappear like magic by Easter

theRemixNow | a month ago

Praise be! /s

Fickle_Ad_8653 | a month ago

Denying science was how we got the Dark Ages. Republicans want to bring that back.

WildLudicolo | a month ago

Soon they're going to executive order links between autism, transgenderism, and undesirable genetics with anti-Trumpism, and therefore anti-Americanism, and therefore "dangerous radicalism," enabling them to label all such people as "domestic terror threats." Then it's off to the camps!

That's their idea, at least. We can still turn things around. People just need to wake up and smell the fascism. We'll see how it goes.

SquareTaro3270 | a month ago

Nah, it’s simpler than that. They outlined in Project 2025 that they were going to make the punishment for all sex-related crimes the death penalty, and then make being trans in public a sex crime.

kittenmittens4865 | a month ago

RFK has said he wants to round up everyone with ADHD into “farm camps” to help heal us away from modern technology and medications. Pretty sure they want forced agricultural labor.

I assume that’s where they want to send the autistic folks too. Sadly, it would not surprise me if they tried to “treat” people aka experiment on them without consent. Especially those most vulnerable with higher support needs, which is really sickening.

SquareTaro3270 | a month ago

Since then my ADHD meds have a 50% chance of doing nothing at all depending on the brand I get. I swear most of the time I’m getting a placebo with no actual medication in it. I wonder if they’ve already started trying to de-medicate people sneakily

TheMagicBarrel | a month ago

They need autism to exist for when they start putting people in camps.

LongLiveStaceyKing | a month ago

[He has successfully executive ordered his way around the Constitution, why not try to employ executive orders to rewrite science???](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975)

indierockrocks | a month ago

Um… that’s not how that works.

Impressive_Box4144 | a month ago

Executive orders mean nothing. Performative that’s all

Doldhov | a month ago

Tell that to the millions of people around the world that can and will use this stunt as a justification to skip vaccinations… It’s much easier to erode trust and confidence in science than it is to build it…

Patric-Tsar-9fingers | a month ago

Around the world?

Doldhov | a month ago

Yep, when the president of the us of a makes vaccine denialism an even more official policy via executive order, all the vaccines deniers or unsure people around the world will take good note…

Patric-Tsar-9fingers | a month ago

I mean, yes and no. It will have an effect on some people, but not as big as you make it. Where I'm from, you can't bullshit your way out of mandatory vaccines.

Plus, the anti science people don't really follow whatever this dude is doing all the time. They are only aware whenever he does something the ruling party likes.

Doldhov | a month ago

As much as I’d like to agree, much of the actual denialism around the world stems from one bad, long rebutted, US study. So I’m not so optimist about an executive order. All the vaccines deniers groups around the world will absolutely take this as an ultimate validation and use it to promote their dangerous ideas and convince more and more people…

tema1412 | a month ago

It affects how people around the world perceive vaccines and wether they agree to use them or not. That's problematic enough.

SomewhatInnocuous | a month ago

They are costing us billions.

rock-n-white-hat | a month ago

So what is the angle here? To relieve the guilt of conservative parents from feeling like it was caused by their genetics? To try and sue pharmaceutical companies for damages but then keep all the money for the government in the name of covering Medicaid costs?

Millennial_on_laptop | a month ago

They want to get a ban on mRNA vaccines before the next pandemic and public opinion becomes incredibly pro vaccine again.

DreamTakesRoot | a month ago

You mean “until public opinion is manipulated into being pro vaccine, again”

Curleysound | a month ago

Yes

Impossible-Flight250 | a month ago

No, RFK genuinely thinks that vaccines cause autism and Trump is going with it.

Smooth-Weekend-2314 | a month ago

Next is an executive order stating that the moon is made of cheese.

drtrillphill | a month ago

Still wouldn't eat it, but if we're made of BBQ spare ribs...

NickFF2326 | a month ago

Wait, I thought we COVID we weren’t supposed to believe science. Are we supposed to now? I’m confused

Ltrain86 | a month ago

They didn't believe science then, and they don't believe science now. Nothing has changed.

Curleysound | a month ago

Baron is reportedly autistic so, just like everything else, it’s not real until it affects them directly.

glp62 | a month ago

I think that's the primary driver here. Trump could never admit that his "perfect" genes could have sired someone on the spectrum, so he latched onto these crackpot explanations to assuage his ego.

Serris9K | a month ago

I also have heard that a grandchild is disabled in some way too.

Edit: also I've heard that tr*mp is a huge eugenicist.

Powderedeggs2 | a month ago

The stupidest man on the planet has decreed this, therefore it must be so.

Otterfan | a month ago

My money is on an order compelling the development of new separate vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella to replace the current MMR combined vaccine.

For some reason Trump is very, very keen on doing that, and it plays publicly as less pants-on-head than other vaccine policy changes. Childhood vaccine skepticism polls poorly, and his advisors don't want him to to appear too wacky three months before mid-terms.

It's the kind of thing that's a bad idea, but it doesn't seem threatening to Joe and Janey Voter.

seasuighim | a month ago

Do not most anti-vaccers complain about the amount of vaccines children recieve? This would add three more.

Otterfan | a month ago

Yeah, but it's a big thing in the antivax movement for some reason.

Trump is obsessed with the idea, because it fits OK with his personal support of vaccines (he's vaccinated, his family is vaccinated) while still feeding right-wing paranoia that people with education are out to get you.

Millennial_on_laptop | a month ago

They already count those as 9 different vaccines (3 doses x 3 diseases) when they tally them up.

That's how they make claims like kids are getting 60 vaccines.

PinkUnicornsRule | a month ago

This was literally what the plan was for the guy who started the modern antivaxx movement, Andrew Wakefield. He claimed the three together were dangerous but separate they were fine, and he falsified evidence in his “study” linking MMR to autism.

Turns out he was hired by an American lawyer to create doubt about MMR so they could market their own measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines they were going to sell.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Trump wanted in on that grift.

JustAChemist002 | a month ago

Much more expensive

PretzelsRule23 | a month ago

MAGA seems to be a death cult.

All their policies and actions seem to increase death...

  • Try to get people to not take vaccines
  • Kill USAID
  • Eliminate teams that track diseases
  • Eliminate healthcare support
  • Eliminate SNAP for millions
  • No actual healthcare plan to improve coverage and outcomes
  • Do everything possible to speed up climate change
  • Let women die because they can't even get medically necessary abortions
  • Allow immigrants to die in prison
  • Zero restrictions on guns
  • War

I'm sure there are many in forgetting off the top of my head

enolaholmes23 | a month ago

Yup. That seems to be the plan. They are hoping to cause chaos so they can enact marshall law and stop future elections.

Royal-Elephant261 | a month ago

And they believe in eugenics

Bavarian_Raven | a month ago

Well their religion is a death cult. So..,

copperblood | a month ago

We live in the dumbest timeline.

nenmayk | a month ago

he will come up with anything to use as distraction for war and epstein

chrissmithphd | a month ago

That and making a play for a voting block to show up in the midterms. Its a small block, but it's rabid and will likely show up in force -- more then enough people to turn a close election.

jcooli09 | a month ago

Lol

schrod | a month ago

Not just fiddling while Rome burns but throwing fuel on it in so many ways, basically tearing down civilization in as many ways as possible every day!!!

korik69 | a month ago

So he thinks he can change reality by executive order. Oh the stupidity.......

Vladivostokorbust | a month ago

It’s only science if Trump says so.

darth_skipicious | a month ago

The whole country is complicit and in the fall of american exceptionalism. every single last one of us. we don’t go out and fight. we don’t demand better. we don’t hold our politicians accountable for their bullshit.

can someone point out really quick who’s doing this to us? the main people i mean.

argument_cat | a month ago

American exceptionalism was always delusional superiority complex, a sign of propaganda's effect on the masses.

Every country is unique, and the US is no more or less unique than anywhere else. Even the American principle of 'freedom' is nonsense when you look at how Americans are spied on, how their votes don't all carry the same weight, and how their needs are trampled on in favour of corporate interests.

Necessary-Dot2714 | a month ago

Well, since you've already lumped all of us into "we," perhaps educate yourself on the current administration, Congress, and Supreme Court before asking your question. And, no, not everyone is complicit. Have you gone out and fought? Have you written letters to congressional leaders demanding accountability? You're equating inactivity with complicity and selling a lot of Americans short.

darth_skipicious | a month ago

yes. I sure have. For over ten years. We lost & they took everything from me. I’ll soon be forced into slavery. I was just closer to the gate than you…but you’ll be up next sooner or later. when they run out of poor people to feed the engine they will look for more fuel. good luck & godspeed. maybe you will win 🤝

Necessary-Dot2714 | a month ago

Good non-answer. And you sure do assume a lot about things. ✌️

darth_skipicious | a month ago

The funny part is you think i’m lying 😆 you’ll find out

reese528O | a month ago

What about autistic people who haven’t gotten a vaccine?

Meow_Kitteh | a month ago

RFK Jr looks like hes letting the brain worm drive more than usual

gratefulfam710 | a month ago

🤦‍♂️ when will Americans become tired of being embarrassed by their elected officials.

wrosecrans | a month ago

We are so tired.

ShadyBiz | a month ago

Not tired enough to vote him back in.

Nothing can hide this stain on the entire country.

vincethered | a month ago

I gather in your country the electorate is a monolith and everybody feels / votes the same way?

Lots of us didn't want this. The majority of voters voted for Clinton in '16.

In 2024 Trump won the popular vote 49.8% to 48.3% with the bulk of his support coming from rural areas. Many of us who are urban dwellers feel held hostage at this point. Our Constitution offers no substantive recourse. We can protest and we do.

ShadyBiz | a month ago

I get your argument but it’s bullshit.

My electorate at least ensures that the entire electorate votes for a start, and use a preferential system to do exactly what you are saying.

And secondly, your shitty system aside, the fact you are sitting on reddit and not in the streets protesting 24/7 until change happens is a failing on you, just as much as the people who voted for that clown in.

Stop blaming other people and do something your damned selves.

vincethered | a month ago

Yeah that sounds like a great system. It's not what we have. The people in power won according to the shitty rules in our Constitution.

You didn't say where you're from; here we don't have parliamentary snap elections or multi-party coalitions. Two party, first-past-the-post. It wasn't intended to be that way in the beginning but that's what it became.

It's a bad system but if we re-jiggered it now through a Constitutional Convention I have no confidence the result would be better.

Oligarchs like the Murdochs and Elon Musk are throwing fortunes into eliminating what we have left of a Democracy.

If the robust Democracies started leveling sanctions maybe that would help. But their leaders all line up to kiss the ring of that man.

minna_minna | a month ago

So exhausted and embarrassed by my country. Feel helpless. Not all of us are this stupid and obnoxious.

Waesrdtfyg0987 | a month ago

Sorry what is this based on? We already are embarrassed and have been since this clown made himself a politician 10+ years ago.

gratefulfam710 | a month ago

Idk I would think that if Americans were embarrassed by their elected officials, they would vote for different ones.

Waesrdtfyg0987 | a month ago

Of course but there's only so much they can do when then billionaire class basically buys elections. Trump appeals to the ignorant and we have plenty.

gratefulfam710 | a month ago

Yeah, there's an abundant amount of people who get who get their information from Facebook.

Available-Square619 | a month ago

We are voting for different officials. Unfortunately it’s a targeted campaign against science and education, which makes ppl easy to manipulate.

Half of us fucking hate it here and can’t leave because no one wants us lol.

Eledridan | a month ago

Would this allow people that are vaccinated to sue providers and hospitals?

MentalDecoherence | a month ago

Didn’t this same White House mandate vaccines just a few years ago?

popejohnsmith | a month ago

Executive order? Bwa hahahaha omg

Performative nonsense.

Epstein Class full transparency, please.

atreeismissing | a month ago

What matters isn't the EO, but how the media will report on the EO. EO's mean nothing other than as an outline of how the federal govt will treat internal policy, though to be fair that incudes funding that isn't specifically directed from Congress. It doesn't change how vaccines work or what hospitals use or how, or the science of vaccines or anything else. How our media covers this EO and it's impacts is going to be very important, because they tend to cover EOs as if they're federal laws when they are not.

humboldtHue | a month ago

As with virtually anything Trump attempts, take it to court.

He will lose … again.

myowngalactus | a month ago

Well I just issued an executive order removing Trump and all republicans from holding any public office. Check mate

AcanthisittaNo6653 | a month ago

Right. If the science doesn't make the connection, trump's EO will.

cRaZyDaVe23 | a month ago

"Well, it is made of cheese. They showed me those rocks and dirt and I ate a spoonful of that dirt and it tasted exactly like cheese the best cheese ya ever had ya commie. Now for my next executive order, I am jeebus cuz I say I am."

L1QU1D_ThUND3R | a month ago

That’s not how executive orders work.

Fit-Bus2025 | a month ago

None of them are scientist.

Automatic-638Builder | a month ago

only this idiot prez would think this is a good idea.

panic_talking | a month ago

Republicans are stupid

Berkamin | a month ago

This is lethal stupidity.

helly1080 | a month ago

Let’s have ya put that executive order up your ass where it came from.  He’s such a parasite.

Standard-Contest-949 | a month ago

I’m linking American Republicans as the link to Autism.

Newfie3 | a month ago

EO declaring 2 + 2 =5

Bent_wrench | a month ago

There is no link.

boulevardpaleale | a month ago

Stupid fucking opinions should NOT be executive orders! I swear I hate these people.

piknick1994 | a month ago

I thought RFK already discovered the cause was Tylenol? What happened to that? Jesus

argument_cat | a month ago

Everything this idiotic admin does seems designed to make the US a global laughing stock.

sectorboss88 | a month ago

😏 sometimes you just need a patsy.

steathrazor | a month ago

Yay more lies

Firm-Reaction1578 | a month ago

King Trump has spoken. Also, 14-year-old girls will now be called adult women!

Both-Counter4075 | a month ago

Awesome. The Magats will Darwin themselves out of existence.

ZanzerFineSuits | a month ago

As the song goes, only stupid people are breeding

shermywormy18 | a month ago

Ok so we don’t need to have any scientific evidence or anything? Just feelings this just beyond stupid

itsme32 | a month ago

Science.

Mushrooming247 | a month ago

But aren’t most people in America vaccinated but not autistic?

Over 90% of American children receive the normal vaccine schedule. Do they think all of those kids are going to turn autistic? Is everyone autistic now?

Original-Fly3964 | a month ago

Seems like there a strong link between this administration and - For just $100000 a month, you'll receive the end of this and many more sentences before the peasants and scum of the bottom 99.9%

TruthOdd6164 | a month ago

Oh well if it was said in an executive order then it must be true

limbodog | a month ago

They should also have an EO linking the current occupant of the white house with the epstein files

the_millenial_falcon | a month ago

White House drafting executive order to dial down gravity a bit. Too heavy.

The idea that vaccines cause autism is 1000% bullshit, but even if it weren’t: vaccines save lives, and autistic people’s lives matter.

People who want to ban vaccines because they (falsely) think they cause autism are telling autistic people that they’d rather have kids be dead than autistic.

And given that we know that autism is (at least to some extent) genetic, it’s only a short step from “ban vaccines because they (supposedly) cause autism” to “forcibly sterilize autistic people” or “round autistic people up and put them to death.”

drchris6000 | a month ago

As dumb as this whole administration has been... this has to be the stupidest idea yet. The nonsense vaccine/autism thing has been investigated to death for years, and it has never produced any evidence. Just at face value, how is a vaccine given after birth causing autism in the first place? It is way more likely that during pregnancy while the brain is being developed, there is some trigger there.

ecrum14 | a month ago

One can't just executive order a lie

NotOneWoodpeckerBut2 | a month ago

There is definitely a link between the administration and shit. Executive order it immediately.

molochz | a month ago

The US is such a joke of a country.

Talking_on_the_radio | a month ago

Unfortunately, if America is to a point where this kind of nonsense can get passed into law, they are absolutely winning.

TsukasaElkKite | a month ago

For fuck’s sake

0AJ0_ | a month ago

lol fuck what the Trump White House says

Prineak | a month ago

That’s so weird that he surrounds himself with liars like that.

tema1412 | a month ago

When someone in such position like him and his staff make these claims, they go past the US. People in other countries are listening to them.

The next epidemic isn't going to be like COVID, it's going to be a disease humanity has kept under control for decades, that has available vaccines, except people will refuse to take them.

dengar_hennessy | a month ago

Oh of course. Its settled now

hawridger | a month ago

And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'

Midnightchickover | a month ago

I don’t think it works like that.

When people use the “both sides” argument, it’s warranted, but hella infuriating. It’s never to say it’s great — it’s only because moderates, liberals, or far leftists would never draw up such a stupid policy without any real evidence nor any to help the general public.  Our legislators and the general public at large are basically illiterate by choice.  Do they not realize their idol has likely taken vaccines, but the general public should not be allowed to decide for themselves.

CautionarySnail | a month ago

Wonderful. I’m due to re-up my neurodivergence levels with the latest jabs very soon!

Maybe I’ll score the coveted forms of autism that give musical talent or a way to focus on learning math. My current neurodivergence is over-fixated on lava lamps and chocolate, which don’t exactly pay the bills.

Euclidisthebomb | a month ago

JFK jr should lay off the cocaine. Probably too late though.

Own-Opinion-2494 | a month ago

Can’t wait for the peer reviews

krustytroweler | a month ago

I'm thoroughly convinced that I blacked out on Four Loko some time around 2010 and I've been in a coma in a hospital somewhere ever since.

AintNobodygotime13 | a month ago

an executive order?

even this is too stupid to believe

IntelligentSorbet271 | a month ago

Now we will know for sure that they don’t! 😡

VirtualMemory9196 | a month ago

It's a diversion from what this time ?

BigBogBotButt | a month ago

I'll take autism over polio.

iustus_tip | a month ago

Will this give insurance justification to deny medical care to autistic children who ARE vaccinated?

alienalf1 | a month ago

It’s fucking wild that millions of people will believe this

TR_abc_246 | a month ago

Dear MAGA, Just because the Donald says it doesn't make it true!

dryheat122 | a month ago

I had to look to be sure this wasn't The Onion.

Fine. Let all the MAGAt kiddies die of preventable childhood diseases. Evolution y'all.

Anyway what exactly is he gonna do? Order vaccines to cause autism?

Iron_Baron | a month ago

Big Micheal Scott "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" energy.

TheRealTK421 | a month ago

Future EOs also under draft status:

• Gravity is declared to be "just a dumb theory" and not a scientific fact.

• Solar power is declared an initiative by Satan to undo capitalism and therefore the fossil fuels industries will receive 1000% subsidies forever.

• Trump grants himself infinite "plenary indulgence".

Special_FX_B | a month ago

This nonsense epitomizes the arrogant ignorance of this entire administration. Take something scientifically proven to be false and assert it to be true.

sean8642 | a month ago

Trump got the Covid vaccine, so he has autism now, so that makes him a DEI hire and he can no longer be President.

drrtydan | a month ago

oh for fuck sake

ApollymiKatistrafia | a month ago

Thats...not how any of that works

VideoKilledRadioStar | a month ago

Dumbfuckistan is no longer a serious country. Get your science and news elsewhere

chowdahhead13 | a month ago

And operation anything but epstein files continues

Sordidloam | a month ago

Yep, that’s not how it works. Remember you need the scientist and doctors to actually believe it.

petewondrstone | a month ago

🚨 BREAKING!!!! Trumpism linked with autism

FlobiusHole | a month ago

This administration is just going full bore on the lies, propaganda and just making shit up in general. I’d laugh but I know too many people who have wholeheartedly accepted this horse shit.

GrubyBuckmore | a month ago

Report: White House drafting executive order linking trump to stupidity and corruption.

There I fixed it.

chockingduck | a month ago

Can you executive order a fact ?

Sounds extremely fascist

omeow | a month ago

FYI we are in a war that is not really a war, is still ongoing which we have won 80 times. Say what you will, even Putin hasn't said this

omeow | a month ago

Someone in the WH is has obsessive compulsion about vaccines and autism.

CatchSufficient | a month ago

I dont know if they understand reality or executive orders

ExpressGovernment385 | a month ago

What is with the administration and executive orders? Reality and facts won't change after the orders are signed

cantspell_rite | a month ago

Laughable

Dodgypoppy | a month ago

Odd how only one country in the whole world has citizens who believe vaccines are bad.. must be a cult..

Extra-Ease3207 | a month ago

As an Autistic person, what is the end game here? Are you trying to sow more doubt in Vaccines? Are you trying to build a case that Autistic people shouldn’t be a part of your society anymore and should be institutionalized? Both? What’s the play here building towards?

ophaus | a month ago

You can't executive order a fantasy into reality. When will this stain on humanity finally be gone?

XavierRex | a month ago

This president is utterly amazed by magnets and shits himself, regularly. But sure let’s have that dope declare that vaccines cause autism.

MiddleOccasion1394 | a month ago

Autism is something you HAVE, ALWAYS had, AND WILL have. It's not something caused by an external factor you get from living your life.

serenwipiti | a month ago

Can we use the word “retard” again? Because these people are the real definition.

enolaholmes23 | a month ago

Still no.

Royal-Elephant261 | a month ago

Even if you're using it like "flame retardant"?

Progression retardant
Equality retardant
Justice retardant
Basic decency retardant

enolaholmes23 | a month ago

It's not funny. Please stop. You just want an excuse to say a slur for the sake of being edgy.

ChilindriPizza | a month ago

So, which vaccine caused mine? And why is my younger sibling neurotypical then?

oldcreaker | a month ago

Science by decree.

UnpricedToaster | a month ago

Do you suppose when he declared bankruptcy all those times, he just stood on a balcony and shouted it across New York City because that's what he thought it meant and none of his yes-men corrected him?

kelcamer | a month ago

Legit, I thought this was the onion

IfItHurtsThenMaybe | a month ago

We can link MAGA with stupidity scientifically

SummerNightSatellite | a month ago

…because now you can just “executive order” science around. 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

NessunoUNo | a month ago

Vaccines? I thought he said Tylenol caused it?

Tylenol’s lawyers threatened lawsuits. That’s one thing Dementia Don actually understands.

csukoh78 | a month ago

Accept they don't. Next idiot.

meep_meep_mope | a month ago

This is so Trump and RFK's litigous groups can sue pharmaceutical companies. Guess who they paaa that cost onto?

Maleficent-Grass-438 | a month ago

This administration’s emblem, besides being a big pile of shit, should be an ostrich with its head in the fuckin sand. The only thing more unfathomable is the brain dead Americans that support this heinous brand of insanity. Unfuckinreal.

Odd-Report-999 | a month ago

At this point, I think they just want people to die.

Old-Landscape-7538 | a month ago

In the next executive order, he will have gravity push things apart rather than pulling each other together.

allan_collins | a month ago

Wait. I thought it was Tylenol that caused it?

Easy-Concentrate2636 | a month ago

So, when the plague hits, who are they going to blame without Fauci in the federal government?

rocket_beer | a month ago

White House drafting order that smog is good for us!

Fmartins84 | a month ago

What is that going to do?

National-Law-458 | a month ago

Jesus. Someone take this dipshit’s pen and phone away.

SCP-iota | a month ago

r/NotTheOnion

TheHoodieConnoisseur | a month ago

This nightmare can’t be over fast enough

morganational | a month ago

I wonder if he realizes that executive orders aren't magical. 🤨

VIP_NAIL_SPA | a month ago

...are they trying to order the vaccines to cause autism? Isn't that just admitting they currently don't? Lol

Prestigious_Skin_424 | a month ago

"I hereby ORDER you to agree with me!"

lmao, fucking nickelodeon ahh presidency.

DoctorSchwifty | a month ago

How about passing some legislation? He is literally the worst president since Andrew Johnson.

Wayelder | a month ago

He only likes reality when it lines up with his own prejudices.

Edwardv054 | a month ago

Just add one more lie to an administration made of them.

SubiKai81 | a month ago

His executive order should be printed on toilet paper. 🧻

Stunning-Hunter-5804 | a month ago

Will blame it on Biden some how

Cynistera | a month ago

Executive order to stop talking about how stupid and fat he is?

OkLevel2791 | a month ago

This will do much to undermine trust, the goal of the current regime.

Eat--The--Rich-- | a month ago

So add it to the list of crimes democrats refuse to acknowledge or prosecute

GreyTigerFox | a month ago

Moron does something completely stupid. Next at 11, water is wet!

New-Analysis-4060 | a month ago

If only outbreaks would stick to the southeast us

sifuredit | a month ago

😂🤣 executive order 😂, let make an announcement! 😂. 🃏🤡

bd2999 | a month ago

For being a movement that is supposed to be interested in the facts they sure rule from authority an awful lot. If the law does not work for HHS than Trump can not just create his preference into law here if the evidence is against him. It is like the tylenol thing all over again but more people are going to die from this one than that.

Journalists are too much of cowards but he should be confronted pretty hard. Doctors and scientists should also be included in any discussion with RFK Jr. or others defending administration policy and have the citations on hand and available to those watching.

As this is purely arguing because we said so and nothing more.

AudienceDue6445 | a month ago

Bribe from pharmaceutical companies incoming

debruehe | a month ago

Tomorrow an executive order that the president is not wearing a wig?

49orth | a month ago

Conservatives Evangelical-Christians Lies

all the same

YaBoiSammus | a month ago

That doesn’t change the global studies

ButterscotchSmooth60 | a month ago

I declare with this executive order that autism is banned from this country and will be refused at the border

Strawberryladyboots | a month ago

The "Rise of Autism" is likely the younger generations genetically recovering from the episode in history where they were essentially pumping lead into the atmosphere and poisoning everyone

The problem is the model of what they considered average intelligence was generated from brains that were also exposed to it

It's why Boomers are so godamnned dumb compared to literally everyone else on the planet, and seem to lack the ability for empathy

It also explains why the world has turned to complete shit under their direction

chrissmithphd | a month ago

And that's the voting block that the administration wants to show up for the midterms. The antivaxers. Will it be enough? Midterms are usually low turn out, so maybe.

Dilapidated_girrafe | a month ago

That’s not how exec orders work

Significant_Swan_31 | a month ago

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SimplyAmazedPanda | a month ago

They really do have an executive order for everything. Trump out here proving again that executive orders don’t mean shit. Congress holds the power in this democracy you dimwit.

BenGay29 | a month ago

That’s not how scientific research works at all.

MrAngrySadHappyFace | a month ago

So does this mean anyone with an autistic son, daughter, brother, or sister can go sue federal government for negligence.

Not only is this stupid, but it seems to set the stage for some major litigation that would normally have absolutely no legs to stand on.

Donny and RFK Jr. About to class action lawsuit their own government with their own lawyers and walk out with hundreds of billions of dollars lol.

paulsteinway | a month ago

So you can order stupid ideas to be true. I guess that means all contradicting evidence will be scrubbed.

tralynd62 | a month ago

Yet one more act to prove to the world that our country is a joke.

Esamers99 | a month ago

Im signing an executive order to sleep on Kim K's cushies every night.

Estcher | a month ago

lol. You can’t make this stuff up!!! What a bafoonery.

julianriv | a month ago

Say it like it is-- this administration wants your children to die from preventable diseases.

Lost_Department_2177 | a month ago

White House wasting money chasing a dragon.

HexspaReloaded | a month ago

I’m not a doctor but scribble scribble doctor’s orders!

TheJohnson854 | a month ago

....with nonedivence that it is trie and plenty otherwise.

starblaster001 | a month ago

The US government isn't the only source of real medical information and if the current anti-science and education administration goes this way, we just stop listening to their crap. This is irresponsible.

Flimsy_Echidna6132 | a month ago

Ah yes, the team of unqualified individuals with zero scientific evidence to back up their claims are spewing more insane rhetoric. Just what we need.

PrincipleSuperb2884 | a month ago

Executive order doesn't create law, nor does it create reality.

TheMortalOne | a month ago

Clearly they are going to mark the real link that actually exists, which is that autism causes vaccines, and not continue the decades old lie that somehow vaccines cause autism.

WickedTunaMelt | a month ago

You know it would be really cool if vaccines fully protected those vaccinated and those not well good luck. It would also be awesome if science could create something that would reverse vaccines for all those non believers but not harm anyone who is vaccinated. I feel like the world would be much better off if vaccines worked that way. Anyway I’ll keep getting mine.

postconsumerwat | a month ago

But vaccines got what I crave... white house is premier shitshow... like what kind of psychological war are they doing? Those guys belong in jail, or worse. Usa has attacked its own people before too but this is just next level toxic... oh well... what can you do... live in blue state and vote out any crazy pedo protectors, health saboteur conspiracy mofos... they really scary

dartie | a month ago

Bonkers

RustedRelics | a month ago

This is madness. I know we must not give up and we must vote. But I genuinely wonder if the country can survive another 2+ years of this insanity.

elchemy | a month ago

Flooding the zone - talking about anything other than Epstein, money laundering, insurrection, etc

Legate_Raiden | a month ago

So we can sue the government for mandating them right? What is he trying to achieve with this?

Least_Homework_9720 | a month ago

Can the pharmaceutical companies sue? I’m so tired of this sh*t.

H_He_Metals | a month ago

Wow they really pulling out the crayons for this one.

ThrowRA_EducatedMan | a month ago

We won’t be needing an executive order linking dr oz’s mouth to Trump’s anus. Oz will soon be taking over from Kennedy and leading the charge backwards to the Dark Ages as he reaps the benefits of the billionaire class and millions suffer.

rtwalling | a month ago

So there is now a link, in the executive order. A document, containing both words.

DonaldDick1946 | a month ago

What does this even mean lol

severinks | a month ago

How is that gonna change things when no one takes this guy seriously?

Electronic_Elk8293 | a month ago

You know... I finally got to a point where I found meds and supplements that have finally allowed my life to be liveable and I can finally feel somewhat normal and now every god damned day I have to think about how these absolute degenerate ass clowns are possibly going to ruin it for me and everyone else in the same boat.

Screw all the low IQ homunculi in this administration.

rbobby | a month ago

When will he sign the executive order mandating two christmases?

wooking | a month ago

Can I get off this time line?

ISOgoosebumps | a month ago

IDK..I kinda outgrew the whole "because I said so" thing, a long time ago. MAHA HAHA!

rddman | a month ago

That's one way to do science: by government decree.

Like that one time when (Texas?) tried to mandate that pi=3 instead of 3.14159...
And like that one time when Germany missed out on a bunch scientific breakthroughs because they figured it was jewish science.

Plantedcrawl | a month ago

If vaccines cause autism then it's the governments fault and I WILL BE COMPENSATED.

robyrob | a month ago

I guess it would be completely pointless at this stage to try to explain to them that that’s not how any of this works.

Blueridge-Badger | a month ago

This is the guy who complained about all of Obama's EOs. I can't wait for him to leave office or not.

brokendream78 | a month ago

Sounds about right for this administration. Science and facts don't matter and apparently neither does evidence

agustusmanningcocke | a month ago

What scares me about this is that this may halt funding for research for vaccines.

Idoubtyourememberme | a month ago

Donny, just because you want something to be true, an executive order wont make it so. You cant legislate facts into (or out of) existence

TheSlideBoy666 | a month ago

Are they gonna publish their findings in an actual peer-reviewed scientific journal?

ishippedmybed | a month ago

if we do not make an example of these people this will never end.

Comecomegivemekisses | a month ago

What is their end game with this? We know there isn’t a link between vaccines and autism. What do they stand to gain by lying and saying that there is? How are they profiting off this charade? So they can push wellness products?

Ickarus1 | a month ago

Someone take the pen and phone from Grandpa.

ngatiboi | a month ago

How the hell would that be an Executive Order? Is he ORDERING vaccines to be linked to autism? 🤔

Fayzgirl | a month ago

For his followers

Jarvis-Savoni | a month ago

Show me the science. You can’t because it doesn’t exist.

mikeyt6969 | a month ago

This is great news, the lemmings, conspiracy theorists and cult members will believe it, and their numbers will decline rapidly. This will leave the educated, informed and those with common sense to lead our country again because “poorly educated” will perish just to own the libs.

DarwinGhoti | a month ago

My four year old declared that he was a pirate.

DonutsOnTheWall | a month ago

for a fuck that doesn't believe in integrity nor in science he sure seems to be focused on having a say in it.

Stealth_Howler | a month ago

So it’s like his own little decree? That doesn’t change the zero scientific evidence part

kyscotty | a month ago

So many things for the next administration to undo

No_Football_9232 | a month ago

What morons America has turned into. To do this and to tolerate it.

BigSiouxRat | a month ago

Oh . . . The White House says it's real . . . So it must be true! 😂😂😂😂😂

DaRusty_Shackleford | a month ago

Well that’s not how science works

fightinirish982 | a month ago

Yes, because that's how science works

Lumpylarry | a month ago

Anyone else remember a time when Republicans used to bitch about presidential overreach?

ottomaticg | a month ago

I am drafting an executive order linking Trump to Imbecility.

MrDavieT | a month ago

Prove it

stevemyqueen | a month ago

And that is order is linked to declining cognitive ability

_ACOZ_ | a month ago

Thats not how science and evidence work.

Maester_Maetthieux2 | a month ago

Jesus Christ

Severe_Air_4353 | a month ago

Must be ahead of their time cause the world says it does not

Porkenstein | a month ago

The fact that this is leaking makes me think that plenty of the people they consulted for it are outraged as well

lisabutz | a month ago

Oh he can f*ck right off.

Difficult-Web3850 | a month ago

Just when you really think they can't do anything more stupid, they surprise you with something really stupid.

jmc175 | a month ago

Next is an executive order making the sun revolve around the earth

kurt6 | a month ago

With strong science to back it of course- yeah right

TieFew6465 | a month ago

All they can do is deflect and deny we are done for.

PointsOfXP | a month ago

Next they'll verify Bigfoot is real

hailskinsrich | a month ago

How about those Epstein files? Have they finished editing them yet?

deekamus | a month ago

That's not how executive orders work.

Dharmabud | a month ago

I’m sure the orange signature will make it true.

angryfistgames | a month ago

What exactly is it going to order? That all scientific studies looking for a link must conclude there is a link and try to make the evidence fit the presupposed conclusion?

Atsilv_Uwasv | a month ago

Is that even kind of how executive orders are supposed to work?

DonnyMox | a month ago

That’s not how executive orders work.

Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 | a month ago

And will politics force insurance companies to drop all vaccine coverage?

zodiackodiak515 | a month ago

These ass holes want to put me in a labor camp (I’m autistic). If I disappear one day I want everyone to know that I did not do so of my own free will

Terrible-Artichoke50 | a month ago

I cannot wait for the YouTube vids going through the executive order

Ok_Sundae2758 | a month ago

Just insane

ProjectNo4090 | a month ago

What exactly is ue ordering?

Lumpy-Interaction725 | a month ago

They want you, your family and your friends dead

Theblokeonthehill | a month ago

Dear USA. Let us all know if you ever return to sanity. Until then, we are better off keeping our distance. Yours truely, everyone else.

semidivineone | a month ago

Executive order deez nuts

pvt_frank | a month ago

Next president should sign an executive order declaring RFK Jr. an autistic alien.

minobi | a month ago

Are they going to clarify who exactly from them got autism?

Schmooto | a month ago

It’s so stupid that a whole country has to play along to their make-believe.

It’s like having to play along with a five year old who throws a massive tantrum if we don’t play by his bullshit rules he just makes up.

DeannaZone | a month ago

Funny kid was autistic before the vaccinations .. now caught up on Vax... so I guess it was the Tylenol right?