Society just failed these kids. Blasted them with useless technologies, garbage information, digital hallucinations just so a few tech overlords and shareholders could milk attention and money. And now they all have adhd, are functionally illiterate and have no mental faculties intact enough to take on complex thinking and tasks
As someone with analogue adhd, these poor kids are getting conditioned into the same inattentiveness and dopamine seeking . And so are so many millennials and older folk.
Honestly short form video and instant cheap dopamine fixes are a curse. I’m actively winding back time on apps like instagram because I feel way worse off, stacking this crap on top of what I have is like the ADHD-MAXXING no one needs.
From what I've seen it was mostly popularized with looks-maxxing, which is a pretty toxic online movement. I do think we're seeing so many things suffixed with "maxxing" just due to the way the internet pushes us towards both maximalist language and mindsets. The "maxxing" label I think is almost an accidental cultural acknowledgement of this IMO.
And it is one of those things where we use it ironically…. Then it gradually becomes part of our general vernacular.
It still brings a smile to my face when I see it used in ridiculous places. One of our countries online news sites had an article about spermmaxxing the other day.
A statement that broad being generally true means the issue is systemic/societal. Hmm, I wonder what omnipresent system is big enough to affect two whole generational cohorts?
If the failure is happening across society, then it’s not (only) an individual failure of the parent. Is highly unlikely that say half of parents across societies just become worse parents without some external cause
I’m guessing you’re generalizing millennials as part the same class group.
There’s going to be big class differences, nepotism, etc. The management and executive class are GenX in many cases. Think Musk, Bezos, Brin and then Millennials like Zuck, Altman. Thats just the tech industry as an example but you’ll find execs in finance as well from this cohort i.e. born between 75 - 85.
You think so but in my opinion it just means that they have a pool of more desperate people to choose from. This benefits employers way more than prospective employees.
My brother is a high school teacher and he showed me the writing of one of his students and it looked like a kindergartner's. In legibility and content.
If you haven't trained fine motor control when you're very young, for example through writing, you're not just missing out on brain development, you may miss opportunities for jobs that require such skill. Surgeon is just one. It's super hard to train that when you're grown
That's bc they are in a hurry and never have enough time.
If you were even a tiny bit aware of what's happening, you would know that surgical residents are showing up not able to even make a stitch. And that's a potential problem for us all. If you ever saw the regions of the brain that control your hands.. you would realize how important it is
I appreciate the fact that I can operate a wooden pencil with a 100% success rate, however I can also go an entire day without ever needed to do that because everything is screens and keyboards.
How many people can make their own clothes?
No doubt people from 200 years ago would find it ridiculous that we did not know that skill.
The question should be rather: they cannot do X but what new skill do they have instead?
If they haven't learned reading comprehension or how to write an intelligible paragraph, what useless skill have they learned instead of these basic foundations of adulthood? The gooner zoomers at my workplace have replaced literacy with an incredible knowledge of incest porn and the ability to fail to comprehend any written instruction at all.
All the provided sources in the article are commentary driven or simply clickbait. I guess it's to make old people feel good about themselves when they read this, but this achieves nothing but polarisation of olds vs youngs.
Oh does it? I can only spot "data shows" without linking to a specific report, that is just weak sourcing practice for people like you to jump into conclusions without doing research themselves.
You calling me a gen zer instead of actually explaining what you base this on proves exactly the point I made about polarisation.
You generalize, make a conclusion and act as if you're superior instead of explaining and guiding. Good job!
You’re welcome! You not taking even two minutes to go search the academic lit on this proves the whole point of the article and other comments. A complete inability or absence of critical thought and problem solving! So, great job! 🙄
As an elder millennial, I had to use the library, books and speak to humans in person for info growing up. Around the beginning of high school we had dial up internet in our tiny town. I feel like I had to learn, not just regurgitate info like Gen X and everyone before. Younger millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha grew up with high speed internet, iPhones, tablets, and info at their fingertips. Want to know why XYZ is the way it is, google it, repeat it, move on.
This of course is a broad generalization, but it isn’t just anecdotal. I plan on teaching my son the way to research, retain and use information to form an opinion or to give facts.
letsgobernie | a day ago
Society just failed these kids. Blasted them with useless technologies, garbage information, digital hallucinations just so a few tech overlords and shareholders could milk attention and money. And now they all have adhd, are functionally illiterate and have no mental faculties intact enough to take on complex thinking and tasks
Rizzanthrope | a day ago
ADHD is an actual biological disorder, though. I guess it is more like behavioral induced ADHD-like symptoms.
The-Pork-Piston | a day ago
As someone with analogue adhd, these poor kids are getting conditioned into the same inattentiveness and dopamine seeking . And so are so many millennials and older folk.
Honestly short form video and instant cheap dopamine fixes are a curse. I’m actively winding back time on apps like instagram because I feel way worse off, stacking this crap on top of what I have is like the ADHD-MAXXING no one needs.
Also why is everything maxxing these days?
Time_Challenge_7488 | a day ago
From what I've seen it was mostly popularized with looks-maxxing, which is a pretty toxic online movement. I do think we're seeing so many things suffixed with "maxxing" just due to the way the internet pushes us towards both maximalist language and mindsets. The "maxxing" label I think is almost an accidental cultural acknowledgement of this IMO.
The-Pork-Piston | a day ago
And it is one of those things where we use it ironically…. Then it gradually becomes part of our general vernacular.
It still brings a smile to my face when I see it used in ridiculous places. One of our countries online news sites had an article about spermmaxxing the other day.
Upstairs-Cabinet-354 | a day ago
There is mounting evidence that ADHD is driven by circadian rhythm disruption, which can be caused by blue light late at night.
Screens may not be the cause but they certainly could be a huge driver of literal ADHD - not a behavioral analogue.
snokeweed | a day ago
Functionally illiterate kids where first failed by their parents before the rest of society.
Gene_Inari | a day ago
A statement that broad being generally true means the issue is systemic/societal. Hmm, I wonder what omnipresent system is big enough to affect two whole generational cohorts?
IMMoond | a day ago
If the failure is happening across society, then it’s not (only) an individual failure of the parent. Is highly unlikely that say half of parents across societies just become worse parents without some external cause
MaxHeadroom1986 | a day ago
I'd say that's alarming but it's a dog eat dog world out there. Lower IQ Gen Z means employers will have a harder time replacing us millennials
Avatele | a day ago
But can you imagine the hard time us millennials will have when it’s our turn to run things lol
MACHOmanJITSU | a day ago
Brought to you by Carl’s junior..
AstralLiving | a day ago
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
MaxHeadroom1986 | a day ago
oh yeah we're screwed big time but aren't we used to it by now lol
luvsads | a day ago
Best part about rock bottom, it's only up from there lmao
epochwin | a day ago
We are running things for the most part. Most of the management and executive class are millennials now.
eetsumkaus | a day ago
Yeah, I'm only moderately successful, but many of the people my age are now in upper management.
NavyDean | a day ago
Hahahahahahahahhahaha
You should quit your day job.
epochwin | a day ago
I’m guessing you’re generalizing millennials as part the same class group.
There’s going to be big class differences, nepotism, etc. The management and executive class are GenX in many cases. Think Musk, Bezos, Brin and then Millennials like Zuck, Altman. Thats just the tech industry as an example but you’ll find execs in finance as well from this cohort i.e. born between 75 - 85.
NavyDean | 22 hours ago
Millenials own 10% of the wealth with the oldest millenial being 45 years old.
When the oldest baby boomers were 36 years old, the baby boomers held 33% of the wealth.
Again, fantastic potential as a stand up comedian.
I_Enjoy_Beer | a day ago
I'm feeling it already. Its honestly amazing the difference even just 20 years has made on college graduates.
debris16 | a day ago
with Trump still having 2.5 years to go, its an if not when.
Cupakov | a day ago
This might be surprising to you, but there’s a whole world out there outside of the US
cbteeee | a day ago
You think so but in my opinion it just means that they have a pool of more desperate people to choose from. This benefits employers way more than prospective employees.
datagamma | a day ago
Hahaha. This cracked me up.
Inevitable-Tune5726 | a day ago
My brother is a high school teacher and he showed me the writing of one of his students and it looked like a kindergartner's. In legibility and content.
limukala | a day ago
I don’t think legibility means much for intelligence. I’d assume doctors are smarter on average. Have you seen a doctor’s handwriting?
Impressive-Ice-4594 | a day ago
If you haven't trained fine motor control when you're very young, for example through writing, you're not just missing out on brain development, you may miss opportunities for jobs that require such skill. Surgeon is just one. It's super hard to train that when you're grown
00raiser01 | a day ago
Surgeons(doctors in general)have shit hand writing. What are you on about.
Cicero912 | a day ago
But not because they have bad fine motor control
How neat the handwriting looks is so far down the totem pole of what matters in their work, which is why its deprioritized.
Impressive-Ice-4594 | a day ago
That's bc they are in a hurry and never have enough time.
If you were even a tiny bit aware of what's happening, you would know that surgical residents are showing up not able to even make a stitch. And that's a potential problem for us all. If you ever saw the regions of the brain that control your hands.. you would realize how important it is
That's what im "on about".
Special_Order-937 | a day ago
I’m a doctor and I block print everything and in large letters too (especially drug charts) for improved legibility.
Chattvst | a day ago
This generation group typing everything. Of course their handwriting is not going to be great
turbo_dude | a day ago
I appreciate the fact that I can operate a wooden pencil with a 100% success rate, however I can also go an entire day without ever needed to do that because everything is screens and keyboards.
How many people can make their own clothes?
No doubt people from 200 years ago would find it ridiculous that we did not know that skill.
The question should be rather: they cannot do X but what new skill do they have instead?
Meatball-Tuna-Sub | a day ago
If they haven't learned reading comprehension or how to write an intelligible paragraph, what useless skill have they learned instead of these basic foundations of adulthood? The gooner zoomers at my workplace have replaced literacy with an incredible knowledge of incest porn and the ability to fail to comprehend any written instruction at all.
oneplusone | a day ago
That sounds like dyslexia.
Ridi9t | a day ago
All the provided sources in the article are commentary driven or simply clickbait. I guess it's to make old people feel good about themselves when they read this, but this achieves nothing but polarisation of olds vs youngs.
park777 | a day ago
This has been studied and is known. The reason why is not understood however
powerentie | a day ago
google reverse flynn effect
BreadPan1981 | a day ago
Uhhhh, one specific data source for such assertions comes directly from PISA data. That is far from clickbait. Gen Zer? lol.
Ridi9t | a day ago
Oh does it? I can only spot "data shows" without linking to a specific report, that is just weak sourcing practice for people like you to jump into conclusions without doing research themselves.
You calling me a gen zer instead of actually explaining what you base this on proves exactly the point I made about polarisation.
You generalize, make a conclusion and act as if you're superior instead of explaining and guiding. Good job!
BreadPan1981 | a day ago
You’re welcome! You not taking even two minutes to go search the academic lit on this proves the whole point of the article and other comments. A complete inability or absence of critical thought and problem solving! So, great job! 🙄
Loveroffinerthings | a day ago
As an elder millennial, I had to use the library, books and speak to humans in person for info growing up. Around the beginning of high school we had dial up internet in our tiny town. I feel like I had to learn, not just regurgitate info like Gen X and everyone before. Younger millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha grew up with high speed internet, iPhones, tablets, and info at their fingertips. Want to know why XYZ is the way it is, google it, repeat it, move on.
This of course is a broad generalization, but it isn’t just anecdotal. I plan on teaching my son the way to research, retain and use information to form an opinion or to give facts.