NAL but I'd be worried about treading into CFAA territory with things like this. In the US, the law allows draconian penalties if you find yourself on the wrong side.
Something like yt-dlp is just downloading public data, which I can see being defensible as automating the use of a service.
But this commandeers remote machine resources to do your compute in ways clearly not intended by the provider. I don't know how ethical it is, but I definitely wouldn't want to argue this isn't "hacking" (the bad kind) in criminal court.
Yeah, this is not slap on the wrist stuff. I think the creator expects nothing more than a C&D letter, but they could face prison time if a zealous federal prosecutor wants to make an example of them.
Not to mention, did this "hack" ever really work? When the original post went viral showing the Chipotle chatbot reversing a linked list, I (among others who posted their results online) immediately tried it and didn't get the same results, so I always assumed it was just a faked screenshot.
I once saw the bad side of one of these draconian state laws many years ago. People rarely have the misfortune of hitting these laws in some flyover states... and I remember the local judge being really shocked by the mandated penalties for such a simple offense.
I’m not a lawyer, but Chipotle is a US company and this github repo belongs to a US citizen currently residing and employed in New York, so US law might apply here.
Reminds me of when I used the Amazon.com AI Chatbot (was called Rufus and they renamed it to Alexa for shopping) to do things like write fizbuzz etc. Looks like they patched it to refuse though.
Came here to say the same. I haven't tried in months but Rufus definitely spat out Python code from within the Amazon shopping app. I just had to use English instead of the local language.
I’d been thinking about if something like this would be possible for https://chatjimmy.ai/ . The underlying model is only llama 3 8B but I’m curious what coding harnesses would be like at 17k tok/s
If you're on macOS you can try the built in LLM which I think is similar in size. There's a project called Apfel that wraps it in a CLI. Also Chrome ships with a web API called Prompt API that gives you offline access to Gemini Nano which can do both text and images at the input. Also tiny. I've integrated these into my workflows where a tiny but non zero amount of reasoning is needed in between the otherwise fully deterministic steps.
I have a personal, fully offline and local version of Windows Recall basically, but good, made using macOS built-in OCR and LLM. The reasoning requirements are tiny (just interpret the screen based on the OCR, do rolling de-duplication and summarization), but they are non-zero. The tool is valuable to me and it being dep-free and fully offline and local just gives me a good feeling.
2. Bun.$ (Bun Shell) to execute the macOS command to take a screenshot (I do this for all connected screens at that moment)
3. Bun.Image to downscale everything to 1x in case some of the screenshots are 2x
4. Bun Shell again to run a JXA AppleScript thing to use the Vision Framework or whatever it is called to OCR the image into a file
5. Bun Shell to run the Swift compiler in the one-off eval mode with inline Swift helper that runs the Foundation Models Framework built-in LLM with a system prompt that tells it what the OCR said and instructs it to glean what may be on the screen (can't do this with JXA because the models are not exposed with ObjC APIs)
6. For each screenshot, continuously, take the previous day summary file and the last OCR/context results and produce a new summary of the day
I plan on adding extra information from the OS like the currently opened windows, currently focused window, time of day etc. into the mix, but so far it hasn't been needed. It produces reports of a good enough quality for me.
I `grep` these daily summaries whenever I need to recall a link I saw or a find what channel a message I spotted was in or take another look at that one tab I already closed, maybe re-open it by its OCR'd URL etc.
I actually tried building a harness around their constraints, just to find out if it was possible, but the combination of small context window, no tool calls and just small model, made me understand, that it’s not going to work.
I added it in my oh-my-pi configuration before (it's OpenAI compatible), but Llama 3 8B is just absolutely unusable for anything coding related.
It is very fast and the latency is very good however.
I always thought that stuffing too much into an LLM context window was a lot like overloading a burrito.Keep cramming stuff in and eventually the tortilla gives out, and everything you added since quietly spills out the bottom.
Anyway, this agent probably has the structural integrity of a fat burito held from one corner :)
give ai a self-preservation directive and let them do this for you: automatically switching models to keep themselves alive. Living off of whatever token source they can find in the wild. Surely agents can farm their own tokens through the numerous support chats, free trials, leaked keys, and whatever other sources of token generation haven’t been adequately captcha’d. An agent could forage for token sources all night to let you use them gratis during the day.
There's also Horde or Koboldai.net or Koboldai.com or whatever their project is named, if you want a community-driven version of this. You can play with it via a WebGUI at https://lite.kobaldai.net, or with an API token of all zeroes. (Or, an actual API key associated with your user.)
> The AI Horde is a service that generates text using crowdsourced GPUs run by independent volunteer workers.
I was once driving and knew where I was going, so I decided to press the gemini button to see what it does. I was able to eventually convince it to write me a Rust function that calculates prime numbers, and demanded that it read out the entire function to me line by line. Fun to mess with these systems.
Oops, I left out the context of "the gemini button in google maps", sorry. It appeared one day and I didn't want to press it while driving and screw up my route. It's supposed to assist you with route-related things, but yeah it's of course still a general purpose LLM backing it.
I remember having success asking Rufus (Amazon's previous "shopping assistant") math and programming questions. It worked, but the quality was so bad that so I stopped wasting my time there.
There was a really great, really underrated show on Peacock a few years ago called Mrs. Davis. The titular Mrs. Davis was an all-encompassing AI assistant that had taken over all of the governments of the world. Everyone wore a Whispering Earring-style earbud with a voice that guided them through their lives and made every decision for them.
In the show the AI had originally started as (spoiler, but not really) the customer support bot for Buffalo Wild Wings. I don't know what to do with this.
Avicebron | 16 hours ago
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avaer | 15 hours ago
Something like yt-dlp is just downloading public data, which I can see being defensible as automating the use of a service.
But this commandeers remote machine resources to do your compute in ways clearly not intended by the provider. I don't know how ethical it is, but I definitely wouldn't want to argue this isn't "hacking" (the bad kind) in criminal court.
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drob518 | 2 hours ago
That said, kudos for creativity.
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1. Bun.Cron API to run a script every minute
2. Bun.$ (Bun Shell) to execute the macOS command to take a screenshot (I do this for all connected screens at that moment)
3. Bun.Image to downscale everything to 1x in case some of the screenshots are 2x
4. Bun Shell again to run a JXA AppleScript thing to use the Vision Framework or whatever it is called to OCR the image into a file
5. Bun Shell to run the Swift compiler in the one-off eval mode with inline Swift helper that runs the Foundation Models Framework built-in LLM with a system prompt that tells it what the OCR said and instructs it to glean what may be on the screen (can't do this with JXA because the models are not exposed with ObjC APIs)
6. For each screenshot, continuously, take the previous day summary file and the last OCR/context results and produce a new summary of the day
I plan on adding extra information from the OS like the currently opened windows, currently focused window, time of day etc. into the mix, but so far it hasn't been needed. It produces reports of a good enough quality for me.
I `grep` these daily summaries whenever I need to recall a link I saw or a find what channel a message I spotted was in or take another look at that one tab I already closed, maybe re-open it by its OCR'd URL etc.
jedbrooke | 2 hours ago
golph | 11 hours ago
If you find a way to do it, I’d love to hear it!
rbinv | 7 hours ago
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egeozcan | 13 hours ago
Anyway, this agent probably has the structural integrity of a fat burito held from one corner :)
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nhecker | 44 minutes ago
> The AI Horde is a service that generates text using crowdsourced GPUs run by independent volunteer workers.
Mistletoe | 11 hours ago
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Mashimo | 9 hours ago
The gemini from your phone?
I mean yeah, that is what it was designed to do. It's one of the better coding LLMs out there.
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chopete3 | 36 minutes ago
1: https://www.chipotle.com/contact-us
evan_ | 30 minutes ago
In the show the AI had originally started as (spoiler, but not really) the customer support bot for Buffalo Wild Wings. I don't know what to do with this.