Please stop with the passive aggressive. Everybody paid attention to their own ecosystem’s news. If they were lied to and that’s all they heard. How is it exactly that you think they should’ve known? How diverse are your reading, watching and social media habits?
Trump said he wanted to get rid of criminals, and when people know that they aren’t criminals in the common sense of the term, they didn’t think it applied to them. And yeah, they found out now. But, I don’t say that with glee the way other people do. I’m not a big fan of liars.
And I’m old enough to know that everybody gets taken at one time or the other in their life. If you haven’t, congratulations on being the one and only exception.
I don't have the patience to sympathize like you sem to, kudos for being so open-minded. All these regretful voters will absolutely turn around and vote for the next Republican candidate they can. My only hope is that plenty of them suffer badly for their choices, it's probably the only way they'll learn to behave differently.
I get annoyed, but I live in flyover country, and the people that are denigrated are friends, colleagues, neighbors. They aren’t bad people. Anyone who says that they are does not know them personally. I do.
But, I also know what they hear on right-wing radio. It’s scary and it is deliberate misinformation.
Right-wing radio focuses on creepy things like other people‘s junk because they don’t have anything else to offer. They just want to burn everything down. People tell me things and I just look at them like you’ve got to be kidding me, but me being an asshat won’t neutralize the hate.
And because of my personal hard won reputation some come to me and quietly ask what I know. One person at a time. One voter at a time.
By itself, a raindrop isn’t much. But if you have enough of them, you can fill the barrel. And the margins in swing states are razor thin.
Those that are merely conservative may change votes. Some won’t because they are full-on MAGA.
Neither of us are oracles.
However, I can tell you that the Republican party bigwigs are extremely worried about the Latino vote. The results of the special election in Texas has them jumpy as all bleep. The candidate that Trump promoted nonstop tanked. Bigly.
Their choices killed over a hundred people in the Caribbean, just for starters. No trial, no judge, no jury. No evidence shown in court from the wreckage. Some survivors double tapped just for good measure.
I'll save my pity for those who earned it. The deliberately ignorant? Not so much.
You’re are mad at the wrong people. It’s OK lots of people are. Most people, from the time they are small are taught that somebody always has to be responsible and therefore somebody must PAY bleep it!!!!
Just another waste of time and energy because it doesn’t solve anything but it is a choice. Refusing to let something go is like drinking poison and waiting for the other guy to die. That’s why my focus is on chipping away at the base rather than blaming.
I’m sorry life just doesn’t work the way you want it
to.
And for the record, no one asked you to feel sorry for anyone or rather I didn’t. That’s a completely different concept than critical thinking skills.
Matthew 25:40 cuts both ways.
> After the killings in Minnesota, Democrats have threatened to block further funding unless the Administration agrees to impose modest restraints on agents’ conduct, such as forcing them to remove their masks and raising the legal bar for the use of warrants. These are rearguard actions that are long overdue.
To call this "feckless and stupid" is an understatement. Nothing short of forcing ICE to give up its plate carriers and firearms and all manner of crowd-control means outside of handcuffs and pepper-spray is going to make this stop.
It needs its function strictly defined, and all action outside of that function needs to be punished harshly.
ICE is violating the constitution and the amendments within like it's a checklist to go down. They're not going to give a shit about the legality of the warrants they're already not getting to do what they're doing.
But what ICE really, really needs is to be abolished entirely. It's a rotten organization and has been since its inception. Its members are beyond retraining and need to be fired and blacklisted from holding any government positions for life. With the worst offenders needing to be sent to prison for the rape, murder, torture, human trafficking and criminality they've exhibited.
Having the Democratic leadership respond to these killings with weaksauce like "These secret police need more training" has been the most infuriating response to the situation. They're all like "we don't want to seem soft on supporting fascism or we'll get killed at the polls."
Trump’s disasters are predictable. The only reason things aren’t worse is our economy, businesses, universities, local, state and federal institutions are more resilient than anyone could have imagined.
As ridiculous as it sounds, Trump’s inability to wreck this country empirically proves American greatness. Protesters in Minneapolis knew how to use their constitutional rights to effectively force DHS to retreat. This alone provides compelling evidence for American greatness.
He wanted to MAGA, but we are discovering we were great all along. We are the immune system searching and destroying the infection of his authoritarianism.
The Trump administration is evil and fascist and all of the other horrible shit people say they are.
And they're totally fucking incompetent, pathetic and full of self-loathing. They may do a lot of damage along the way, but they will figure out a way to fuck it up.
Twenty-four years after the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the mission and conduct of agencies within the department, such as ICE and Border Patrol, have exceeded the worst imaginings, Jonathan Blitzer writes.
Last year, at the Administration’s behest, Congress tripled ICE’s budget, making it the most heavily funded law-enforcement body in the country. After the killings in Minnesota, Democrats havethreatened to block further funding unless the Administration agrees to impose restraints on agents’ conduct, such as forcing them to remove their masks and raising the legal bar for the use of warrants. Read more about the weaponization of D.H.S.:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/02/09/why-the-dhs-disaster-in-minneapolis-was-predictable
what? anyone who didn't either predicted this or at least hear someone else predict it during the Bush Jr era probably isn't qualified to talk about it now.
Funny how DHS haven't had any problems in other states where law enforcement has actually worked with them to execute their mandate of immigration enforcement, which was a major pillar of the democratically elected government's platform.
>Twenty-four years later, their mission and their conduct have exceeded the worst imaginings of even their sharpest critics.
This is such ridiculous hyperbole. Two people have been killed in unfortunate high stress situations brought about by the Democrats mobilizing leftist mobs to interfere with law enforcement.
If that "exceeds your worst imaginings" then you don't have much imagination.
Texas has 27% of all illegal immegrants projected to be in the US. Minnesota has 0.7%. Minnesota police are also working with ICE with any violent offenders they have. Reporting on Jan 17th from the Minnesota MPR news is that 12 were found and handed over to ICE custody, which ICE then promptly marked down as that they had apprehended them. So yes, Minnesota is assisting with ICE in the context that ICE was sent to them, and in regards to getting violent offenders out as the priority.
The rest is disturbing communities and show of force. And that isn't being tolerated.
>This is such ridiculous hyperbole. Two people have been killed in unfortunate high stress situations brought about by the Democrats mobilizing leftist mobs to interfere with law enforcement.
32 people last year, and so far 6 this year. If you like licking boots so much you can at least buy your own.
Nine people have died because of ICE actions so far in 2026. You moved the goal posts to exclude citizens shot on the street. To reiterate: 3 citizens were killed on the street, 6 individuals have been killed in ICE custody.
I like immigration enforcement. I think controlling who is within your society is one of the core functions of government. It's hard to think of a more fundamental function.
>I like immigration enforcement. I think controlling who is within your society is one of the core functions of government. It's hard to think of a more fundamental function.
The issue is not immigration enforcement, or reform. The issue is violating the Constitution to enforce a law that literally does not exist. It is not a crime to be in this country without papers. It IS a crime to arrest people without warrants, to kidnap them, and to execute them in the street. I think we should enforce those ACTUAL, MUCH MORE SERIOUS crimes before we go around terrorizing entire swaths of the population in order to protect bigotry.
what an interesting observation. I always felt that one of the core functions of government in a democracy was to uphold the constitution and the rule of law. Silly me.
This country has been diverse from the very beginning. Two fifty years of diversity. Why fix it if it’s not broken. Does anybody study history anymore?
As for border control, a bipartisan bill with Chris Murphy and Langford whisper brought to the floor and was killed because Trump wanted to continue to campaign on the issue. The entire purpose of borderer control is to manage and document in flow to the country. Not to keep people out. The exception of of course is cartel members, known criminals with a felony past.
It’s not my business what group you believe you belong to, but can you imagine the brawl that would ensue if every single group of Americans that is different from another felt that way?
I don’t give two bleeps where my neighbors come from, or what they look like, or what they do for a living as long as they obey the law. If they invite me over for good food and have a cup of sugar, I can borrow we’re good.
Except you're leaving out the part that they aren't just enforcing immigration. They are attacking people with justified reasons to be here. They are attacking Americans they're attacking people that have legal cover to be here they're attacking people and I'm only going to say this once, that are not white and those who defend people that are not white so really that's what you stand for.
demlet | a day ago
A lot of people did predict it, none of what's happening is a surprise. It's what Trump promised, if anyone paid attention...
horseradishstalker | 15 hours ago
Please stop with the passive aggressive. Everybody paid attention to their own ecosystem’s news. If they were lied to and that’s all they heard. How is it exactly that you think they should’ve known? How diverse are your reading, watching and social media habits?
Trump said he wanted to get rid of criminals, and when people know that they aren’t criminals in the common sense of the term, they didn’t think it applied to them. And yeah, they found out now. But, I don’t say that with glee the way other people do. I’m not a big fan of liars.
And I’m old enough to know that everybody gets taken at one time or the other in their life. If you haven’t, congratulations on being the one and only exception.
demlet | 12 hours ago
I don't have the patience to sympathize like you sem to, kudos for being so open-minded. All these regretful voters will absolutely turn around and vote for the next Republican candidate they can. My only hope is that plenty of them suffer badly for their choices, it's probably the only way they'll learn to behave differently.
bluelily216 | 9 hours ago
This is my issue as well, and there have been many 'repenting' Trump voters who've outright said they would vote the same if given a second chance.
horseradishstalker | 11 hours ago
I get annoyed, but I live in flyover country, and the people that are denigrated are friends, colleagues, neighbors. They aren’t bad people. Anyone who says that they are does not know them personally. I do. But, I also know what they hear on right-wing radio. It’s scary and it is deliberate misinformation.
Right-wing radio focuses on creepy things like other people‘s junk because they don’t have anything else to offer. They just want to burn everything down. People tell me things and I just look at them like you’ve got to be kidding me, but me being an asshat won’t neutralize the hate.
And because of my personal hard won reputation some come to me and quietly ask what I know. One person at a time. One voter at a time.
By itself, a raindrop isn’t much. But if you have enough of them, you can fill the barrel. And the margins in swing states are razor thin.
Those that are merely conservative may change votes. Some won’t because they are full-on MAGA.
Neither of us are oracles.
However, I can tell you that the Republican party bigwigs are extremely worried about the Latino vote. The results of the special election in Texas has them jumpy as all bleep. The candidate that Trump promoted nonstop tanked. Bigly.
SardonicusR | 9 hours ago
Their choices killed over a hundred people in the Caribbean, just for starters. No trial, no judge, no jury. No evidence shown in court from the wreckage. Some survivors double tapped just for good measure.
I'll save my pity for those who earned it. The deliberately ignorant? Not so much.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/02/politics/timeline-us-strikes-caribbean-pacific-vis
horseradishstalker | 8 hours ago
You’re are mad at the wrong people. It’s OK lots of people are. Most people, from the time they are small are taught that somebody always has to be responsible and therefore somebody must PAY bleep it!!!!
Just another waste of time and energy because it doesn’t solve anything but it is a choice. Refusing to let something go is like drinking poison and waiting for the other guy to die. That’s why my focus is on chipping away at the base rather than blaming.
I’m sorry life just doesn’t work the way you want it to.
And for the record, no one asked you to feel sorry for anyone or rather I didn’t. That’s a completely different concept than critical thinking skills. Matthew 25:40 cuts both ways.
MarsupialMadness | 23 hours ago
> After the killings in Minnesota, Democrats have threatened to block further funding unless the Administration agrees to impose modest restraints on agents’ conduct, such as forcing them to remove their masks and raising the legal bar for the use of warrants. These are rearguard actions that are long overdue.
To call this "feckless and stupid" is an understatement. Nothing short of forcing ICE to give up its plate carriers and firearms and all manner of crowd-control means outside of handcuffs and pepper-spray is going to make this stop.
It needs its function strictly defined, and all action outside of that function needs to be punished harshly.
ICE is violating the constitution and the amendments within like it's a checklist to go down. They're not going to give a shit about the legality of the warrants they're already not getting to do what they're doing.
But what ICE really, really needs is to be abolished entirely. It's a rotten organization and has been since its inception. Its members are beyond retraining and need to be fired and blacklisted from holding any government positions for life. With the worst offenders needing to be sent to prison for the rape, murder, torture, human trafficking and criminality they've exhibited.
jandrese | 14 hours ago
Having the Democratic leadership respond to these killings with weaksauce like "These secret police need more training" has been the most infuriating response to the situation. They're all like "we don't want to seem soft on supporting fascism or we'll get killed at the polls."
BeeWeird7940 | a day ago
Trump’s disasters are predictable. The only reason things aren’t worse is our economy, businesses, universities, local, state and federal institutions are more resilient than anyone could have imagined.
As ridiculous as it sounds, Trump’s inability to wreck this country empirically proves American greatness. Protesters in Minneapolis knew how to use their constitutional rights to effectively force DHS to retreat. This alone provides compelling evidence for American greatness.
He wanted to MAGA, but we are discovering we were great all along. We are the immune system searching and destroying the infection of his authoritarianism.
colirado | a day ago
I needed to hear this.
wholetyouinhere | 17 hours ago
The Trump administration is evil and fascist and all of the other horrible shit people say they are.
And they're totally fucking incompetent, pathetic and full of self-loathing. They may do a lot of damage along the way, but they will figure out a way to fuck it up.
[OP] newyorker | a day ago
Twenty-four years after the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the mission and conduct of agencies within the department, such as ICE and Border Patrol, have exceeded the worst imaginings, Jonathan Blitzer writes.
Last year, at the Administration’s behest, Congress tripled ICE’s budget, making it the most heavily funded law-enforcement body in the country. After the killings in Minnesota, Democrats havethreatened to block further funding unless the Administration agrees to impose restraints on agents’ conduct, such as forcing them to remove their masks and raising the legal bar for the use of warrants. Read more about the weaponization of D.H.S.:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/02/09/why-the-dhs-disaster-in-minneapolis-was-predictable
WillBottomForBanana | 15 hours ago
"exceeded the worst imaginings"
what? anyone who didn't either predicted this or at least hear someone else predict it during the Bush Jr era probably isn't qualified to talk about it now.
Organic_Designer_201 | 23 hours ago
fr need more context to this post, i'm confused lol
InstructionHuge7838 | 21 hours ago
sounds kinda sus but sure why not, always down for a wild experiment lol just don't turn me into a mutant or something
Outsider-Trading | 19 hours ago
Funny how DHS haven't had any problems in other states where law enforcement has actually worked with them to execute their mandate of immigration enforcement, which was a major pillar of the democratically elected government's platform.
>Twenty-four years later, their mission and their conduct have exceeded the worst imaginings of even their sharpest critics.
This is such ridiculous hyperbole. Two people have been killed in unfortunate high stress situations brought about by the Democrats mobilizing leftist mobs to interfere with law enforcement.
If that "exceeds your worst imaginings" then you don't have much imagination.
susinpgh | 17 hours ago
Are they sending 1000s of ICE agents to any of the Red states? No, no they are not.
Outsider-Trading | 17 hours ago
The red states are cooperating with the federal government, which means you need fewer agents to enact even more deportations:
https://www.ice.gov/statistics
Texas has more arrests than Minnesota.
susinpgh | 16 hours ago
Cute that you believe what ICE says about its own operations. It also doesn't justify the abuses of constitutional rights.
Noressa | 15 hours ago
Texas has 27% of all illegal immegrants projected to be in the US. Minnesota has 0.7%. Minnesota police are also working with ICE with any violent offenders they have. Reporting on Jan 17th from the Minnesota MPR news is that 12 were found and handed over to ICE custody, which ICE then promptly marked down as that they had apprehended them. So yes, Minnesota is assisting with ICE in the context that ICE was sent to them, and in regards to getting violent offenders out as the priority.
The rest is disturbing communities and show of force. And that isn't being tolerated.
BrerChicken | 18 hours ago
>This is such ridiculous hyperbole. Two people have been killed in unfortunate high stress situations brought about by the Democrats mobilizing leftist mobs to interfere with law enforcement.
32 people last year, and so far 6 this year. If you like licking boots so much you can at least buy your own.
susinpgh | 17 hours ago
It's 9 people.
BrerChicken | 16 hours ago
32 people died in ICE custody in 2025. 6 have died so far this year.
Between 2008-2016, 53 people died in ICE custody.
susinpgh | 14 hours ago
Nine people have died because of ICE actions so far in 2026. You moved the goal posts to exclude citizens shot on the street. To reiterate: 3 citizens were killed on the street, 6 individuals have been killed in ICE custody.
BrerChicken | 3 hours ago
I'm not trying to move the goal post, I just wasn't sure what you meant by 9. That's why I let you know what I meant with my numbers.
I think we're both equally horrified by what's happening. This administration is a literal abomination!
Outsider-Trading | 18 hours ago
I like immigration enforcement. I think controlling who is within your society is one of the core functions of government. It's hard to think of a more fundamental function.
BrerChicken | 16 hours ago
>I like immigration enforcement. I think controlling who is within your society is one of the core functions of government. It's hard to think of a more fundamental function.
The issue is not immigration enforcement, or reform. The issue is violating the Constitution to enforce a law that literally does not exist. It is not a crime to be in this country without papers. It IS a crime to arrest people without warrants, to kidnap them, and to execute them in the street. I think we should enforce those ACTUAL, MUCH MORE SERIOUS crimes before we go around terrorizing entire swaths of the population in order to protect bigotry.
horseradishstalker | 15 hours ago
what an interesting observation. I always felt that one of the core functions of government in a democracy was to uphold the constitution and the rule of law. Silly me.
This country has been diverse from the very beginning. Two fifty years of diversity. Why fix it if it’s not broken. Does anybody study history anymore?
As for border control, a bipartisan bill with Chris Murphy and Langford whisper brought to the floor and was killed because Trump wanted to continue to campaign on the issue. The entire purpose of borderer control is to manage and document in flow to the country. Not to keep people out. The exception of of course is cartel members, known criminals with a felony past.
It’s not my business what group you believe you belong to, but can you imagine the brawl that would ensue if every single group of Americans that is different from another felt that way?
I don’t give two bleeps where my neighbors come from, or what they look like, or what they do for a living as long as they obey the law. If they invite me over for good food and have a cup of sugar, I can borrow we’re good.
scootunit | 16 hours ago
Except you're leaving out the part that they aren't just enforcing immigration. They are attacking people with justified reasons to be here. They are attacking Americans they're attacking people that have legal cover to be here they're attacking people and I'm only going to say this once, that are not white and those who defend people that are not white so really that's what you stand for.
pastense | 15 hours ago
How's that boot taste?