If the author has managed to use it for a few years and is happy with the feature set, I feel like it's not unreasonable to fork it and accept some security or vulnerability patches and bug fixes from the community.
This is why I like Lume. It's basically just glue for your site's build scripts. If it died as a project it wouldn't be too hard to bash together rocks for an afternoon and replace enough of what it does for my own purposes.
I find it unfathomable that the Kickstarter is already funded. I can't muster any goodwill for a move like this. Did 11ty really need a cashflow injection to remain sustainable?
After 11ty’s wild success Zach tried hard to make it a sustainable, one man show with indie sponsorships. It didn’t work out. Whatever you think about this current way of funding things, it wasn’t the first choice and community didn’t fund the better option. It also isn’t the worst choice: he’s totally eschewed huge vc funding insanity like Astro and Gatsby. He’s just trying to make 11ty a sustainably funded, SMALL project without huge growth and without corporate overlords.
That sounds a lot more positive. The way the Kickstarter is written made it seem like 11ty is going to be replaced with this other thing that seems like it's for a completely different audience.
this is certainly one way to do it, i guess.
another would be not to try to make only 11ty sustainable, but rather, keep making more useful foss projects, so that users of his other projects also donate, not just 11ty. I think setting up alternative ways to donate, e.g. one-time ko-fi style, recurring, maybe an opencollective/patreon? could also help. (maybe he has already done this)
I just got an email about the Kickstarter today. I'm disappointed by this direction-- it's honestly hard to believe, but hope that 11ty will keep working as usual.
This time last week I had never heard of 11ty, but since I migrated my band's website to it (from Wordpress). I've enjoyed using it, and hope this won't affect me.
This shift for 11ty came as a big shock to me, but as the author mentions we can easily pin versions and move on without much hassle. Though this does act as a trigger to take a second look at the competition; I have a lot of people chirping in my ear about Astro.
px64 | a day ago
Seems like someone should make a fork named 12ty
spenc | 6 hours ago
I like the name dozendy.
kraxen72 | a day ago
If the author has managed to use it for a few years and is happy with the feature set, I feel like it's not unreasonable to fork it and accept some security or vulnerability patches and bug fixes from the community.
ashishb | 22 hours ago
orib | 18 hours ago
kel | a day ago
This is why I like Lume. It's basically just glue for your site's build scripts. If it died as a project it wouldn't be too hard to bash together rocks for an afternoon and replace enough of what it does for my own purposes.
bitslayer | 21 hours ago
The fast & flexible static site generator for Deno
nil | a day ago
I find it unfathomable that the Kickstarter is already funded. I can't muster any goodwill for a move like this. Did 11ty really need a cashflow injection to remain sustainable?
altano | a day ago
After 11ty’s wild success Zach tried hard to make it a sustainable, one man show with indie sponsorships. It didn’t work out. Whatever you think about this current way of funding things, it wasn’t the first choice and community didn’t fund the better option. It also isn’t the worst choice: he’s totally eschewed huge vc funding insanity like Astro and Gatsby. He’s just trying to make 11ty a sustainably funded, SMALL project without huge growth and without corporate overlords.
He talked about this here: https://www.zachleat.com/web/podcast-awesome-eleventy-open-source/. The Apple podcast page has a transcript: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-eleventy-survived-funding-growth-and-open-source/id1660959088?i=1000747878278
I admire Zach and wish him the best with Build Awesome.
[OP] mwt | a day ago
That sounds a lot more positive. The way the Kickstarter is written made it seem like 11ty is going to be replaced with this other thing that seems like it's for a completely different audience.
kraxen72 | 16 hours ago
this is certainly one way to do it, i guess. another would be not to try to make only 11ty sustainable, but rather, keep making more useful foss projects, so that users of his other projects also donate, not just 11ty. I think setting up alternative ways to donate, e.g. one-time ko-fi style, recurring, maybe an opencollective/patreon? could also help. (maybe he has already done this)
[OP] mwt | a day ago
I just got an email about the Kickstarter today. I'm disappointed by this direction-- it's honestly hard to believe, but hope that 11ty will keep working as usual.
stig | 22 hours ago
This time last week I had never heard of 11ty, but since I migrated my band's website to it (from Wordpress). I've enjoyed using it, and hope this won't affect me.
zerebos | 17 hours ago
This shift for 11ty came as a big shock to me, but as the author mentions we can easily pin versions and move on without much hassle. Though this does act as a trigger to take a second look at the competition; I have a lot of people chirping in my ear about Astro.
jrgtt | 15 hours ago
If the shift to a more commercial approach from 11ty is pushing you away, small note that Astro was recently acquired by Cloudflare.
[OP] mwt | 3 hours ago
Until this post, I had never heard of Astro. I'll look into it.
I don't like the way Fort Awesome communicates. It's not that it's too corporate necessarily.