This is incredibly hard for a lot of people to sit with, apparently.
I honestly don't think schools do a good job teaching this. They plainly preach democracy as a religious Good without digging into the crunch or nuance of why the founding fathers did not form a direct democracy and what brilliant statecraft went into creating this republic.
But “republic” doesn’t have a well-defined meaning. Calling a country a republic does not thereby mean it isn’t also a democracy. In calling the U.S. a republic, the founding fathers meant more or less just that the government would be based on popular sovereignty. “Republic” more or less meant “not a monarchy.” Moreover, “democracy” doesn’t necessarily mean “direct democracy.” Taken literally, democracy (demos [people] + kratos [power]) means a governmental system in which the ultimate power lies with the people. So any argument to the effect of “our country is a republic, not a democracy” is ill-formed.
That said, I also acknowledge that the founders wanted to put limitations on the amount of control the lower classes could exert. The U.S. has never been as thoroughly democratic as many would like, though major improvements were made in the Progressive Era. But this isn’t because of Republicanism per se, but because the founding elites wanted this particular republic to derive its power from the popular will, shall we say, only indirectly.
Well “democratic republic” would be wrong too. It’s a constitutional republic with democratic elections.
It had less to do with controlling the lower class, and more so making sure populists couldn’t royally fuck things up. The majority of people are not very smart or thoughtful.
No, democratic republic is very much a form of government. And it seems to aptly describe the U.S. system. Though I would say that even this article does violence to the concept of a “republic” which throughout history has applied to governments as varied as Plato’s benign monarchy (in “The Republic”) no less than it has to current fifth republic of France. Defining Republics systems of representative government is a recent change in our political vocabulary, and one that I think is rather ad hoc in my personal opinion.
I’m aware democratic republic is a form of government, but not what the US has. Hence me saying it “would be wrong too”. The US being a constitutional republic with mostly democratic elections isn’t exactly something up for debate it’s just facts.
Anything to deflect the blame from unfettered late stage capitalism. Once you read news through a lens of "is this capitalist propaganda?" You will see it everywhere
Lol, exactly. "You were smart and didn't vote for these pieces of shit so therefore we're blaming it on you, even though you had nothing to do with any of it. Good day!"
Since people are clearly only going by the headline instead of reading the article, it's about being neutral about undemocratic practices, not voting Independent ...
>Relying on data from two surveys they conducted in the summers of 2024 and 2025, and a third, larger survey sent weekly through the YouGov panel between 2022 and 2023, the researchers asked participants about their attitudes toward undemocratic practices. The questions included whether they agreed, disagreed or felt neutral when asked about their support for four examples of undemocratic practices: reducing outparty polling stations, ignoring outparty court decisions, remaining loyal to the party over the Constitution, and censoring partisan media.
>Roughly 50 percent of participants checked the neutral category for at least one question. In contrast, outright agreement with undemocratic practices was much less common. But, between the two segments, up to two-thirds of respondents did not actively oppose undemocratic practices on the part of government officials, political candidates and leaders.
>“Not actively opposing undemocratic practices is different than actively supporting democracy,” Hall said.
>Neutrality, the researchers noted, is especially concerning because it can be associated with authoritarianism, tolerance of norm violations, extremism, distrust and obscuring antidemocratic views.
>Another, equally critical point, Hall said, is that this neutrality exists at similar rates on both sides of the aisle, among Republicans and Democrats, as well as nonpartisans.
>Why voters remain neutral
>The researchers identified several reasons that voters choose the “neither agree nor disagree” category. Hall explained that some Americans tolerate politicians undermining democracy on a conditional basis if it means those entities enact policies they favor, but then they don’t like those same undemocratic decisions when made by leaders in the other party. They vote according to the mantra, “It depends.”
>Some voters are just uncertain about which direction to lean, or believe they don’t have the knowledge or understanding to vote appropriately. Other voters are simply indifferent or apathetic — they simply do not care about politics. Another group of neutrals are ambivalent toward the survey questions because they care strongly in two conflicting directions and feel indecisive. A fifth group actually supports antidemocratic policies but feels social pressure to say they don’t, so they feign neutrality.
>“Regardless of why Americans express neutrality, those who do so are just as likely to vote for authoritarian politicians as the relatively small number of Americans (less than one in five) who explicitly support undemocratic practices,” Hall said.
Until the two party system is replaced, you gotta vote for sanity. Vote Blue. If they suck, protest them and get them out next cycle. We’re doing that with Bibi’s puppet Ritchie Torres in the Bronx. But any Dem is better than a MAGA lunatic.
What a stupid take. Refusing to vote for shitty candidates shows they must EARN our vote, not just be the lesser of two evils. The candidates must campaign for policies that help people rather than just hurt them less than th next candidate.
Responding to “lesser of two evils” with the accusation that they’re saying both “are the same” is black and white thinking. Like, can we agree those words are saying different things?
I know people that didn't vote in the last election because they genuinely believe that the only way for things to get better is a total collapse. It's so messed up, but that's how some non-voters think.
What "American Democracy".. Between gerrymandering, Citizen's United ruling, and the electoral college, the US couldn't even pretend to be a democracy before Trump. Now it's just an open Oligarchy.
Yeah whatever is going on with the US's issues, it's not an issue of voting being a right and not a demand
I don't really get the people who push for it. You'd still have the same non-functional two-party system, the same hyper-focus on presidential candidates over understanding the political system, and the same problems where a political party is treated as a core aspect of identity. Nothing would clear out the many institutional issues like that, either. All mandatory voting would do is make the US citizens vote who are even less informed than average, and criminalize particular political positions (such as those who do not vote due to religious reasons, especially notable in the US due to it's diversity of religious movements.)
What makes Australia functional isn't really mandatory voting anyways, it's ranked-choice voting
I know someone that is a prime example, they really don’t pay attention to any news or anything really. They’re sort of in their own bubble, and really just mock all voting and politics. And they have a rather large friend group who as far as I can tell are just the same as they are
Be good little citizens and vote blue no matter who! Even though the democrats are merely controlled opposition. Don’t do anything that might actually change your material conditions. 😅
Please go read some Michael Parenti or Marx or Lenin.
The Democrats might have been better decades ago but certainly not now. Chuck Schumer literally said his job is to keep the Democratic Party pro Israel. They always have just enough Dems voting with republicans so nothing meaningful passes.
They are collaborators, holding up imperialism and capitalism. They are bought and paid for.
It’s time to educate yourself (read Marxist theory) and then organize. Join your local PSL or other “left” organization’s. Talk to people in your community. If you’re in a union, get more involved. It’s been heartwarming to see communities come together to fight against data centres.
There are a few democrats that are fresh on the scene that I would vote for, though I’m worried about their potential being ultimately squashed by the DNC. A lot of other communists wouldn’t agree with me there but I’m not delusional.
Whining that the Democrats won't give you a pony so you don't vote against a fascist makes your material conditions much worse.
But keep fighting that fight, I'm sure this will be the one time in history that it works out. Or maybe if you're interested, open a history book and read up on how things worked out in similar situations in Iran, Germany, etc. and what happened to the "progressives" who thought it was icky to side with the centrists. Spoiler alert - they were all lined against a wall and shot as soon as the fascists took power. If you think "centrists" are bad just wait until a far right authoritarian government takes power, they REALLY don't like you. In fact, they will murder the shit out of you as soon as they possibly can. It's happened before and it will happen again, history repeats itself and all that.
I know that reading probably isn't your strong point, but just know that this scenario has played out countless times and the outcome is the most predictable thing in the world. It won't be different this time.
No one ever said not to vote. Vote strategically and people should start voting third party more in places where they can actually win. The democrats do everything in their power to suppress third parties. People should be doing more than just voting.
Having Trump elected is merely speeding up the decay of the American empire. Life has continued to get worse and more expensive under both parties. Liberals don’t care about the destruction the US causes in other countries, as long as they are able to have a cushy lifestyle.
Lmao, you got downvoted when seeing how Democrats reacted to Mamdani's election proves your point. That was literally Dems fighting harder against the socialism boogeyman than they did against Trump.
I believe the answer could be found in intelligence, mental stability and ability to rationalize testing, to preclude the ill equipped from gaining important positions of representation.
I thought you were being sarcastic. We haven't had representation in donkey's years. Our votes only determine whether we get mediocre benefits (and more freedom), or fewer benefits and less freedom. But no change to the oligarchical system, regressive tax structure, and the lack of real benefits from our government in terms of goods, services, and human centered priorities over corporate profit.
It’s interesting to me that the blame is usually on the voters who vote this way, and not on the parties or the system for not being democratic or offering someone worth voting for
Voters have been getting the blame for years, no matter how bad the parties screw up.
Me, personally, when I see the Democrats screwing up so hard that 90 million people decide that voting doesn't matter anymore-which, mind, is a greater amount than the people who voted Trump and Harris combined-I'd first question if the Democrats really did the flawless job people tell me they did.
A progressive PAC or workers PAC is needed so that we can fund electable officials rather than be given no choice between the right, right and the right-of-center left.
Nonsense. You can't fight PACs with PACs, it's too late for that.
Moving the window to the right is what got us here, moving it back to the left in necessary before any progress can be made. We didn't get here quickly and won't get back in my lifetime.
Voting for the non-fascist who has the best chance of winning in every race is the only way to succeed. They can't be beaten unless they are overwhelmed because they control elections and vote counting.
Once the fascists are gone it'll be time to fight over real reform, but until they are it's just blowing smoke.
Voting neither was a personal decision; fielding a genocidal 'alternative' to fascism was a systemic decision. You cannot attribute systemic outcomes to personal decisions except by obfuscation. The system is to blame for systemic failures, not the individual.
And before you just ad hominem the shit out of a valid argument, yes I voted for Harris....
costafilh0 | a day ago
"democracy"
Cute.
BioExtract | 23 hours ago
It’s like calling Russia communist. Sure buddy. Sure…
Alarming-Jello-5846 | 17 hours ago
It’s well documented that the US is a constitutional republic
S-192 | 17 hours ago
This is incredibly hard for a lot of people to sit with, apparently.
I honestly don't think schools do a good job teaching this. They plainly preach democracy as a religious Good without digging into the crunch or nuance of why the founding fathers did not form a direct democracy and what brilliant statecraft went into creating this republic.
Alarming-Jello-5846 | 17 hours ago
The Federalist Papers should be required reading imho
Spiritual_Writing825 | 16 hours ago
But “republic” doesn’t have a well-defined meaning. Calling a country a republic does not thereby mean it isn’t also a democracy. In calling the U.S. a republic, the founding fathers meant more or less just that the government would be based on popular sovereignty. “Republic” more or less meant “not a monarchy.” Moreover, “democracy” doesn’t necessarily mean “direct democracy.” Taken literally, democracy (demos [people] + kratos [power]) means a governmental system in which the ultimate power lies with the people. So any argument to the effect of “our country is a republic, not a democracy” is ill-formed.
That said, I also acknowledge that the founders wanted to put limitations on the amount of control the lower classes could exert. The U.S. has never been as thoroughly democratic as many would like, though major improvements were made in the Progressive Era. But this isn’t because of Republicanism per se, but because the founding elites wanted this particular republic to derive its power from the popular will, shall we say, only indirectly.
Alarming-Jello-5846 | 15 hours ago
Well “democratic republic” would be wrong too. It’s a constitutional republic with democratic elections.
It had less to do with controlling the lower class, and more so making sure populists couldn’t royally fuck things up. The majority of people are not very smart or thoughtful.
Spiritual_Writing825 | 15 hours ago
No, democratic republic is very much a form of government. And it seems to aptly describe the U.S. system. Though I would say that even this article does violence to the concept of a “republic” which throughout history has applied to governments as varied as Plato’s benign monarchy (in “The Republic”) no less than it has to current fifth republic of France. Defining Republics systems of representative government is a recent change in our political vocabulary, and one that I think is rather ad hoc in my personal opinion.
Alarming-Jello-5846 | 11 hours ago
I’m aware democratic republic is a form of government, but not what the US has. Hence me saying it “would be wrong too”. The US being a constitutional republic with mostly democratic elections isn’t exactly something up for debate it’s just facts.
Thebeardinato462 | 16 hours ago
Currently seems a lot like an oligarchy.
00feezy | a day ago
This reminds me of those dumbsss, out of touch articles that said, “millennials killed the shopping malls, napkins, newspapers, and so on”
tbombs23 | 11 hours ago
Anything to deflect the blame from unfettered late stage capitalism. Once you read news through a lens of "is this capitalist propaganda?" You will see it everywhere
morganational | 16 hours ago
Lol, exactly. "You were smart and didn't vote for these pieces of shit so therefore we're blaming it on you, even though you had nothing to do with any of it. Good day!"
ItsAllAGame_ | 19 hours ago
Since people are clearly only going by the headline instead of reading the article, it's about being neutral about undemocratic practices, not voting Independent ...
>Relying on data from two surveys they conducted in the summers of 2024 and 2025, and a third, larger survey sent weekly through the YouGov panel between 2022 and 2023, the researchers asked participants about their attitudes toward undemocratic practices. The questions included whether they agreed, disagreed or felt neutral when asked about their support for four examples of undemocratic practices: reducing outparty polling stations, ignoring outparty court decisions, remaining loyal to the party over the Constitution, and censoring partisan media.
>Roughly 50 percent of participants checked the neutral category for at least one question. In contrast, outright agreement with undemocratic practices was much less common. But, between the two segments, up to two-thirds of respondents did not actively oppose undemocratic practices on the part of government officials, political candidates and leaders.
>“Not actively opposing undemocratic practices is different than actively supporting democracy,” Hall said.
>Neutrality, the researchers noted, is especially concerning because it can be associated with authoritarianism, tolerance of norm violations, extremism, distrust and obscuring antidemocratic views.
>Another, equally critical point, Hall said, is that this neutrality exists at similar rates on both sides of the aisle, among Republicans and Democrats, as well as nonpartisans.
>Why voters remain neutral
>The researchers identified several reasons that voters choose the “neither agree nor disagree” category. Hall explained that some Americans tolerate politicians undermining democracy on a conditional basis if it means those entities enact policies they favor, but then they don’t like those same undemocratic decisions when made by leaders in the other party. They vote according to the mantra, “It depends.”
>Some voters are just uncertain about which direction to lean, or believe they don’t have the knowledge or understanding to vote appropriately. Other voters are simply indifferent or apathetic — they simply do not care about politics. Another group of neutrals are ambivalent toward the survey questions because they care strongly in two conflicting directions and feel indecisive. A fifth group actually supports antidemocratic policies but feels social pressure to say they don’t, so they feign neutrality.
>“Regardless of why Americans express neutrality, those who do so are just as likely to vote for authoritarian politicians as the relatively small number of Americans (less than one in five) who explicitly support undemocratic practices,” Hall said.
tbombs23 | 11 hours ago
Bless up
SithLordJediMaster | 23 hours ago
Well the options that we have to vote on harm democracy.
fools_errand49 | 22 hours ago
Read the study folks not the headline. Your comments will have nothing to do with the content otherwise.
WaltzLeafington | 19 hours ago
Ranked voting + banning superpacks and that would solve a shitload of problems
Dino-F-Pouchez | 11 hours ago
Until the two party system is replaced, you gotta vote for sanity. Vote Blue. If they suck, protest them and get them out next cycle. We’re doing that with Bibi’s puppet Ritchie Torres in the Bronx. But any Dem is better than a MAGA lunatic.
illicitli | 11 hours ago
i'm never voting again. i don't give a fuck. white people created this mess, y'all can solve it, i'm done trying.
SixthAttemptAtAName | 22 hours ago
What a stupid take. Refusing to vote for shitty candidates shows they must EARN our vote, not just be the lesser of two evils. The candidates must campaign for policies that help people rather than just hurt them less than th next candidate.
BazelBuster | 20 hours ago
Nothing more privileged then saying “both parties are the same”
TheBravadoBoy | 19 hours ago
Responding to “lesser of two evils” with the accusation that they’re saying both “are the same” is black and white thinking. Like, can we agree those words are saying different things?
SixthAttemptAtAName | 18 hours ago
Well I didn't say that, so....?
Beginning_Ad_6616 | a day ago
“Does” hurt democracy
Apod_93 | 23 hours ago
I know people that didn't vote in the last election because they genuinely believe that the only way for things to get better is a total collapse. It's so messed up, but that's how some non-voters think.
Brrdock | a day ago
Voting neither is a vote for the worse option.
Your stances and ideology isn't worth that or anything. If you didn't learn that from Trump, idk what to tell ya
ChrisRiley_42 | a day ago
What "American Democracy".. Between gerrymandering, Citizen's United ruling, and the electoral college, the US couldn't even pretend to be a democracy before Trump. Now it's just an open Oligarchy.
void_method | 21 hours ago
Voting for the status quo just makes more status quo. It's time for a certain party to be more than "better than the other guys."
Corporate and dark money donors will not allow this, of course.
TimeIntern957 | 19 hours ago
You can vote for anything else than a status quo in the US ? Since when ?
teddymaxwell596 | a day ago
Mandatory voting in Australia. Get someeee
AyrA_ch | a day ago
Many democracies don't have mandatory voting, and they're working fine.
Overfed_Venison | 23 hours ago
Yeah whatever is going on with the US's issues, it's not an issue of voting being a right and not a demand
I don't really get the people who push for it. You'd still have the same non-functional two-party system, the same hyper-focus on presidential candidates over understanding the political system, and the same problems where a political party is treated as a core aspect of identity. Nothing would clear out the many institutional issues like that, either. All mandatory voting would do is make the US citizens vote who are even less informed than average, and criminalize particular political positions (such as those who do not vote due to religious reasons, especially notable in the US due to it's diversity of religious movements.)
What makes Australia functional isn't really mandatory voting anyways, it's ranked-choice voting
Whooptidooh | a day ago
That and make it a paid free day as well.
DoublePostedBroski | 22 hours ago
That’s not the answer
NoGoat3930 | a day ago
Just vote. You understand this by now. If your still on the fence, it is quite clear your just seeking attention.
AdmirableBus6 | a day ago
You know Reddit is not representative of the general population. A good large chunk of people literally don’t care about politics
Fieos | a day ago
A good chunk of Redditors will talk mad shit all year and still skip elections
AdmirableBus6 | a day ago
I know someone that is a prime example, they really don’t pay attention to any news or anything really. They’re sort of in their own bubble, and really just mock all voting and politics. And they have a rather large friend group who as far as I can tell are just the same as they are
MagicWishMonkey | 17 hours ago
Most of the people here are literally children, dangerously stupid, trolls, or a combination thereof.
kittykatmila | a day ago
Be good little citizens and vote blue no matter who! Even though the democrats are merely controlled opposition. Don’t do anything that might actually change your material conditions. 😅
Distasteful_T | a day ago
Democrats are infinitely better than the Republicans if you are too stupid to realize that you deserve Trump.
kittykatmila | a day ago
Please go read some Michael Parenti or Marx or Lenin.
The Democrats might have been better decades ago but certainly not now. Chuck Schumer literally said his job is to keep the Democratic Party pro Israel. They always have just enough Dems voting with republicans so nothing meaningful passes.
They are collaborators, holding up imperialism and capitalism. They are bought and paid for.
VerilyShelly | 23 hours ago
What should we do then to change this?
kittykatmila | 22 hours ago
It’s time to educate yourself (read Marxist theory) and then organize. Join your local PSL or other “left” organization’s. Talk to people in your community. If you’re in a union, get more involved. It’s been heartwarming to see communities come together to fight against data centres.
There are a few democrats that are fresh on the scene that I would vote for, though I’m worried about their potential being ultimately squashed by the DNC. A lot of other communists wouldn’t agree with me there but I’m not delusional.
DeerOnARoof | 22 hours ago
Classic leftist. "Read theory bruh"
PunkyMaySnark4 | 15 hours ago
Yeah? You SHOULD read theory? So you can understand how leftists get where we're saying?
Distasteful_T | 13 hours ago
Yeah! so you also can whine online and do fuck all. These people are allergic to praxis.
LanceLynxx | 19 hours ago
How did every country that follow Marx or Lenin end up?
kittykatmila | 15 hours ago
China seems to be doing great. That’s just one example.
LanceLynxx | 12 hours ago
China is closer to fascism than communism my guy lmao
MagicWishMonkey | 17 hours ago
Not voting makes your material condition worse, lmao. You people are extremely dumb.
How is Trump working out for ya? You can seriously look around and still think voting for Harris was not a good idea?
twoiko | 16 hours ago
>Not *organizing makes your material condition worse
MagicWishMonkey | 15 hours ago
Whining that the Democrats won't give you a pony so you don't vote against a fascist makes your material conditions much worse.
But keep fighting that fight, I'm sure this will be the one time in history that it works out. Or maybe if you're interested, open a history book and read up on how things worked out in similar situations in Iran, Germany, etc. and what happened to the "progressives" who thought it was icky to side with the centrists. Spoiler alert - they were all lined against a wall and shot as soon as the fascists took power. If you think "centrists" are bad just wait until a far right authoritarian government takes power, they REALLY don't like you. In fact, they will murder the shit out of you as soon as they possibly can. It's happened before and it will happen again, history repeats itself and all that.
I know that reading probably isn't your strong point, but just know that this scenario has played out countless times and the outcome is the most predictable thing in the world. It won't be different this time.
kittykatmila | 16 hours ago
No one ever said not to vote. Vote strategically and people should start voting third party more in places where they can actually win. The democrats do everything in their power to suppress third parties. People should be doing more than just voting.
Having Trump elected is merely speeding up the decay of the American empire. Life has continued to get worse and more expensive under both parties. Liberals don’t care about the destruction the US causes in other countries, as long as they are able to have a cushy lifestyle.
PunkyMaySnark4 | 15 hours ago
Lmao, you got downvoted when seeing how Democrats reacted to Mamdani's election proves your point. That was literally Dems fighting harder against the socialism boogeyman than they did against Trump.
kittykatmila | 15 hours ago
Exactly. They not only suppress third parties, but progressives within their own!
HoodieGalore | a day ago
Seems like "American democracy" is struggling no matter what anyone does. We're here, ain't we?
Available-Damage5991 | 22 hours ago
This article sure would have been helpful a decade ago.
morganational | 16 hours ago
Bullshit. I call bullshit on that. Don't believe this bs.
Liesthroughisteeth | 16 hours ago
I believe the answer could be found in intelligence, mental stability and ability to rationalize testing, to preclude the ill equipped from gaining important positions of representation.
JimJamanon | 15 hours ago
Getting rid of parties would solve a lot of problems, just run on the problems you want to fix.
LesnBOS | a day ago
I thought you were being sarcastic. We haven't had representation in donkey's years. Our votes only determine whether we get mediocre benefits (and more freedom), or fewer benefits and less freedom. But no change to the oligarchical system, regressive tax structure, and the lack of real benefits from our government in terms of goods, services, and human centered priorities over corporate profit.
Distasteful_T | a day ago
Trump loves people like you.
stvrkillr | 22 hours ago
It’s interesting to me that the blame is usually on the voters who vote this way, and not on the parties or the system for not being democratic or offering someone worth voting for
PunkyMaySnark4 | 15 hours ago
Voters have been getting the blame for years, no matter how bad the parties screw up.
Me, personally, when I see the Democrats screwing up so hard that 90 million people decide that voting doesn't matter anymore-which, mind, is a greater amount than the people who voted Trump and Harris combined-I'd first question if the Democrats really did the flawless job people tell me they did.
NorthBook1383 | 23 hours ago
American democracy is already harmed. After the past almost decade, shits trash. I strongly believe people ain’t gonna be voting anymore.
CABigfoot | 21 hours ago
A progressive PAC or workers PAC is needed so that we can fund electable officials rather than be given no choice between the right, right and the right-of-center left.
jcooli09 | 19 hours ago
Nonsense. You can't fight PACs with PACs, it's too late for that.
Moving the window to the right is what got us here, moving it back to the left in necessary before any progress can be made. We didn't get here quickly and won't get back in my lifetime.
Voting for the non-fascist who has the best chance of winning in every race is the only way to succeed. They can't be beaten unless they are overwhelmed because they control elections and vote counting.
Once the fascists are gone it'll be time to fight over real reform, but until they are it's just blowing smoke.
Oddpod11 | 23 hours ago
Voting neither was a personal decision; fielding a genocidal 'alternative' to fascism was a systemic decision. You cannot attribute systemic outcomes to personal decisions except by obfuscation. The system is to blame for systemic failures, not the individual.
And before you just ad hominem the shit out of a valid argument, yes I voted for Harris....
Ewy_Kablewy | 23 hours ago
Not voting folks essentially voted for Trump. The apathy is a vote for all of the negatives so, you too, voted for this.
hpygilmr | 21 hours ago
Not voting also kept the mentally ill from electing Kamala which was a good thing 👍🏽
nyxie3 | 20 hours ago
Donald Trump trafficked and raped children with his long time friend and business partner Jeffrey Epstein.
ib_fartin-247365 | 18 hours ago
Now explain why dictating how other people choose to participate in democracy is actually a good thing for democracy.
PublikSkoolGradU8 | a day ago
The only solution to “fixing” democracy is to impose costs upon those that vote.
OriginalDurs | 20 hours ago
pretending democrats defend democracy or the working class is a hilarious lie you're gonna have to sell harder than this