Does this work for light mode, too? I suspect I'm in the minority given this is a tech circle, but I greatly prefer light mode because dark mode has always been harder for me to read for whatever reason. When I go to dark mode sites I click Reader View when possible to make it easier to read. It'd be cool if there was an "adaptive light mode" that kept the page structure the same but inverted the colors when the original is dark.
It'd be cool if there was an "adaptive light mode" that kept the page structure the same but inverted the colors when the original is dark.
100% agree. In addition it sounds like they're doing more than just that, and actually adjusting contrast towards best practices as necessary, too... which is actually the bigger problem I have with dark sites. I don't prefer dark modes, but will put up with them sometimes, if they have a reasonable middle ground of contrast to make them readable. But I feel most dark color schemes swing to one extreme or the other, where I either struggle to read it because text is barely distinguishable or alternatively everything looks like it's lit up in neon.
Same, depending on the lighting conditions of the room, I may use dark mode, but most of the time I am on light mode because it just feels better to read.
In the spring of 2019, Safari 12.1 became the first browser to support dark mode on the web.
It’s often said that Safari is today’s Internet Explorer, lacking behind on standards. I’d argue, Apple is on the forefront regarding standards in the interest of users, while taking their time with standards benefiting Google web developers.
I can't update Safari to beta in this Mac due to not being mine, so I'm left to wonder how this compare to the Dark Reader extension since it looks Apple team made a great effort with its heuristics. On the other hand, having a "native" dark mode available may convince some webpages to test what happens when users forces dark mode and not shrug it because it's just a minority with an extension.
I appreciate the privacy aspect. I use LibreWolf—which for this discussion means Fx with privacy.resistFingerprinting on—& I always end up on the default light theme purely to avoid all the fingerprinting. It’s always kinda irked me that I couldn’t opt out based on a list or heuristic… it’s really the corpo, ad-riddled, proprietary-tracking sites that are the problem which means I can’t even get the best experience a developer might send to me since all of the accessibility knobs, including color-scheme: light dark;, if on sites that aren’t doing any tracking (like even my own).
ryan-duve | a day ago
Does this work for light mode, too? I suspect I'm in the minority given this is a tech circle, but I greatly prefer light mode because dark mode has always been harder for me to read for whatever reason. When I go to dark mode sites I click Reader View when possible to make it easier to read. It'd be cool if there was an "adaptive light mode" that kept the page structure the same but inverted the colors when the original is dark.
diktomat | 23 hours ago
Dark mode only and monospaced body text are the two things I hate most about “techy” sites.
giffengrabber | 20 hours ago
Indeed! I often skip reading articles with that kind of layout.
abeyer | 14 hours ago
100% agree. In addition it sounds like they're doing more than just that, and actually adjusting contrast towards best practices as necessary, too... which is actually the bigger problem I have with dark sites. I don't prefer dark modes, but will put up with them sometimes, if they have a reasonable middle ground of contrast to make them readable. But I feel most dark color schemes swing to one extreme or the other, where I either struggle to read it because text is barely distinguishable or alternatively everything looks like it's lit up in neon.
ataias | 2 hours ago
Same, depending on the lighting conditions of the room, I may use dark mode, but most of the time I am on light mode because it just feels better to read.
diktomat | 23 hours ago
It’s often said that Safari is today’s Internet Explorer, lacking behind on standards. I’d argue, Apple is on the forefront regarding standards in the interest of users, while taking their time with standards benefiting
Googleweb developers.shrike | 13 hours ago
The problem with IE was that it was the dominant browser, every website HAD to work on it or the client would throw a fit.
Chrome (Chromium) is the new IE. It's the market leader and all sites must work on it.
fanf | 10 hours ago
Yeah, previously, “breaking the web forward” (2021) (59 comments)
fedemp | 20 hours ago
I can't update Safari to beta in this Mac due to not being mine, so I'm left to wonder how this compare to the Dark Reader extension since it looks Apple team made a great effort with its heuristics. On the other hand, having a "native" dark mode available may convince some webpages to test what happens when users forces dark mode and not shrug it because it's just a minority with an extension.
fanf | 19 hours ago
You can install Safari Technology Preview in your home applications folder, and you can get sibling browsers for Linux from webkit.org.
kevinc | 10 hours ago
People look at me funny for using Safari, but it has great features. I use Hide Distracting Items every day.
toastal | 4 hours ago
I appreciate the privacy aspect. I use LibreWolf—which for this discussion means Fx with
privacy.resistFingerprintingon—& I always end up on the default light theme purely to avoid all the fingerprinting. It’s always kinda irked me that I couldn’t opt out based on a list or heuristic… it’s really the corpo, ad-riddled, proprietary-tracking sites that are the problem which means I can’t even get the best experience a developer might send to me since all of the accessibility knobs, includingcolor-scheme: light dark;, if on sites that aren’t doing any tracking (like even my own).