Me too. I’ve given up honestly, everything that brings me the little joys in life that keep me going are going to kill me someday. I’m starting to feel like my existence is incompatible with life.
I have an addictive personality and a lot of addiction in my family, so I never started drinking in the first place. I also hate the taste and it gives me a headache.
I also hate not feeling in control of my actions, so I avoid vices that would do that to me.
That is an example. There’s also Tomas of non-food activities that bring joy and are healthy.
I also struggle with the argument that the only pleasant foods are unhealthy ones. It sounds more to me like you’re addicted to certain foods and convincing yourself they’re the only ones that see enjoyable.
At the end of the day it’s your life, so you do get to do as you want. That also means you’re the only one who can alter your habits.
Well, there are several factors that go into why changes are hard for me, but I don't like getting into them too much online because people take it as me making excuses, and it's hard for me to explain all the ways that I am trying to work around them and make better choices.
I will admit that I am probably addicted to my Pepsi. But I also don't get caffeine anywhere else, as I don't drink coffee or tea, and I've made several attempts to cut it out and end up with debilitating caffeine withdrawal headaches. All the zero sugar ones are so gross that I can't tolerate them either. But I am trying.
You can, you just need to be responsible and think about what you're drinking. Think about the fact that a can of soda has an insane amount of sugar and then consider how often you should have one. You shouldn't have one every day, and definitely not multiple.
When I was in my teens I would have like 2 double big gulps per day and genuinely thought it was a step in the right direction swapping to beer. Like in the evenings I'll have a beer instead because it's less sugar. My pancreas is probably done by the time I'm 30.
That's definitely not true. Obviously they still aren't good for you, but it's far better than drinking all that sugar. Plus the zero sugar versions have no calories. It's also not going to spike your blood sugar like regular soda. If you're drinking too much soda, you absolutely should replace it with zero sugar.
I've been only drinking zero sugar versions for a couple years now, and the fact that any time I try a sugar version I'm almost repulsed by it tells me everything I need to know.
Correlation or causation? People who drink diet sodas are more likely to be diabetic and/or obese, both of which are also known to contribute to dementia, amongst numerous other health conditions. Not saying that it can’t be a causal link, but I am skeptical.
Two years of Newtrition investment and research had produced CHOW™. CHOW™ contained spun, plaited, and woven protein molecules, capped and coded, carefully designed to be ignored by even the most ravenous digestive tract enzymes; no-cal sweeteners; mineral oils replacing vegetable oils; fibrous materials, colorings, and flavorings. The end result was a foodstuff almost indistinguishable from any other except for two things. Firstly, the price, which was slightly higher, and secondly the nutritional content, which was roughly equivalent to that of a Sony Walkman. It didn’t matter how much you ate, you lost weight.* Fat people had bought it. Thin people who didn’t want to get fat had bought it. CHOW™ was the ultimate diet food—carefully spun, woven, textured, and pounded to imitate anything, from potatoes to venison, although the chicken sold best. Sable sat back and watched the money roll in. He watched CHOW™ gradually fill the ecological niche that used to be filled by the old, untrademarked food. He followed CHOW™ with SNACKS™—junk food made from real junk. MEALS™ was Sable’s latest brainwave. MEALS™ was CHOW™ with added sugar and fat. The theory was that if you ate enough MEALS™ you would a) get very fat, and b) die of malnutrition.
Terry Pratchett, Good Omens
Let's look at the absolute risk instead of the relative risk.
Within the cohort that never drank sugary drinks, the likelihood of developing stomach cancer was approximately 0.0077% per year during the 40 years of observation.
Within the cohort that had more than 1 sugary drink per day, the likelihood was approximately 0.0163% per year.
Over a span of 60 years, this adds up to a likelihood of 0.98% for those who drank more than 1 sugary drink per day and 0.46% for those who didn't drink any sugary drinks.
Interestingly, the cohort that drank 4-7 sugary drinks per week had virtually the same likelihood to develop stomach cancer as the one who didn't drink any: 0.0079% per year / 0.48% over 60 years.
That suggests that having 1 sugary drink per day isn't really an issue but having several can be. Unfortunately, this study only collected semiquantitative data, so there is no possibility to further break down the "more than 1 sugary drink" group.
Did they define sugary drink? Like is it the sugar content that defines it? If I have a tsp of sugar in my coffee every day is that considered a sugary drink and the same risk as someone who drinks a coke every day?
"Diet sodas showed no link" is a good takeaway here too. Some people are still convinced that diet soda is more dangerous than regular sugar-filled soda and that's clearly not the case.
Aspartame, used in diet sodas has been one of the most studied substances in the field. It does have some negatives, but it's nowhere near the demonized substance some people claim it to be, at least not when consumed in normal amounts.
Artificial sweeteners have been thoroughly tested before being allowed. I once read someone doubting sugar would be allowed if it was tested for being allowed for human consumption in the present. Caries is a disease which it is proven to cause. I have switched to sugarfree drinks to a large extent for that reason. Always surprised me the marketing never pushed that advantage of sugarfree drinks.
I gave you an upvote because I agree, but I think it's important to study the effects of diet soda as well as artificial sweeteners aren't without risks.
If people learn that diet soda is in some respect also bad for them and then make the wrong conclusion that "it's all bad anyway" or "it's even worse", that's on them.
Sadly the sweeteners used in diet coke variations lead to other cancers. You can’t really say one is healthier than the other but it might be less evil?
Do you have references for this claim? From what I've read, there are no studies that show a link between artificial sugars (in normal amounts) and cancer.
There isn't any direct evidence as far as I'm aware. There was a fairly recent meta analysis of over 90 studies and they couldn't find any link to artificial sweeteners causing cancer. They didn't even find any link when people took massive doses equivalent to 100+ cans of pop per day.
I mean it could still be possible, maybe there's a risk but it's so insignificant that it never turns up in studies. But not enough that people should worry about drinking diet pop.
They never do. Anecdotally, everyone I've seen pushing the "diet Coke is worse than real Coke" narrative has a gut exploding out and spilling over their pants. I think they just really like sugar.
aspertame has shown a correlation with cancer but it's heavily dependent on your body weight and how much you drink. someone who's anorexic and drinks a lot of diet coke would be a lot more at risk than a really overweight person ironically enough https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Aspartame_PR.pdf is an academic article discussing the results of a study where they found a correlation between aspertame and cancer but not enough during normal dietary trials that would pose a concern.
i think it's just one of those things that if you are drinking aspertame you should be aware that it puts you at higher risk of liver and breast cancer but no worse than drinking an energy drink puts you at risk of accute kidney failure slash heart attack
To get to the dangerous amount mentioned in your linked article a 150 pound person would have to drink 15-17 diet cokes a day. That, as I said, is not a reasonable amount for a person to drink. My point remains unrefuted. There is little to no evidence that consuming a normal amount of artificial sugars poses any threat.
From what I can find, there isn't much evidence showing any "chemical reaction" between the two in regular amounts poses any measurable threat to human health.
"The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified aspartame as “possibly carcinogenic to humans” (Group 2B) in 2023, based on limited evidence, particularly concerning hepatocellular carcinoma. Importantly, the WHO/JECFA assessment concluded that the evidence did not justify changing the acceptable daily intake (ADI) of 40 mg/kg body weight/day"
I mean you can definitely talk about which is healthier if you’ve got concrete robust data on the actual rates of incidence regarding cancers and other negative effects relating to various sweeteners.
I'm assuming in order to double your risk for stomach cancer you would have to be ingesting an ungodly amount, or already have the predisposition to get that type of cancer. Like how do you even 'double' the risk, what are we measuring that got doubled?
Upon further reading of the article it seems like I was correct to assume, out of the 100k or so people they were tracking over the years, the only ones that stood out were extremely heavy drinkers. If you had like even a few to up to 7 sodas a week it didn't even seem to factor much into the study. Only daily drinkers were flagged specifically, and those drinkers probably had more than one on average based on what I'm seeing.
Also this research is just observational and not completely conclusive. It just seems to be a pattern among heavy soda drinkers, which yeah I would assume drinking lots of sugary drinks daily without any breaks could lead to a lot of issues.
I'm not going to live forever, and I sure as fuck dont want to live in a world where I dont get to wash down my cancer-causing hot dog with a cancer-causing Dr. Pepper a few times every summer.
I watched something that linked to research showing that drinking fruit drinks was as bad for you as smoking. Something about losing the balance of eating whole fruit to deal with the sugar.
Most have ignored the warnings about the role sugary drinks have played in exploding obesity and type 2 diabetes rates, so after careful and thoughtful deliberation, I'm sure everyone will ignore this as well.
There's probably hundreds of confounders there. People who drink sugar drinks are more likely to drink or eat other things that are bad for your health.
“Altogether 112,284 people were tracked. Across 3.2 million person-years of follow-up, 278 of them developed stomach cancer.
Only the heaviest drinkers of sugar-sweetened beverages stood out. People having one to three servings a month, one to three a week, even four to seven a week all looked much like the people who almost never drank them.
Daily drinkers were the exception, however,, at 2.45 times the risk. This is the habit that is already tied to type 2 diabetes and heart disease.”
Wow, that's surprising. I thought it was spread by a germ- pylori??? Anyway, the only person I know who had stomach cancer was my alcoholic uncle. Pretty sure he never drank sodas, but lots and lots of beer and hard liquor-RIP.
Everyone explaining equations and probability saying its still not a huge risk; let me have it.
I need this. I need the fear struck into me. I'll make this my reason to stop. If its not the cancer its gonna be kidney damage or some shit so lemme be scared of cancer
Some people drink coffee with more sugar than a typical soda. Some restaurants you have to go out of your way to get coffee without sugar (like at McDonalds, you have to dive into a customization menu and specify a quantity of 0 sugar, which is not the default)
Idk but my assumption is that they won’t be nearly as bad considering they only have like 3-5g of sugar. If ppl are drinking poppi thinking they are healthy, I think that’s silly. If they are drinking them because they are substantially less unhealthy than regular soda, then that’s reasonable I feel.
love_is_an_action | 19 hours ago
I’ve been a soda addict since the 1980s, when Ma would have my sister and me “split a coke” in sippy cups.
I assume I’m doomed. My only vice, too.
Remote-Bus-5567 | 17 hours ago
Double the chance of a very low chance is still a low chance.
Rupperrt | 10 hours ago
Too many people don’t understand that equation when it comes to health risks
grunkage | 9 hours ago
I understand it very well when it comes to processed meat, which is why I still eat bacon and sausage
Diels_Alder | 9 hours ago
278 people getting stomach cancer out of 112,000 doesn't seem that low.
Remote-Bus-5567 | 8 hours ago
So about 2 additional cases per 1000 people over several decades. That's the difference if you add soda, assuming the soda actually was the culprit.
TeamVanHelsing | 18 hours ago
same
love_is_an_action | 18 hours ago
Denise?!
Ariandrin | 18 hours ago
Me too. I’ve given up honestly, everything that brings me the little joys in life that keep me going are going to kill me someday. I’m starting to feel like my existence is incompatible with life.
HumanWithComputer | 17 hours ago
It is incompatible. All that living will be the death of you someday.
Ariandrin | 17 hours ago
I don’t even drink or smoke or use drugs, I just like tasty food and Pepsi.
blaminyou | 7 hours ago
How do u resist the urge to drink that’s my vice. I still think alcohol is worse than Pepsi
Ariandrin | 6 hours ago
Alcohol is worse than Pepsi for sure.
I have an addictive personality and a lot of addiction in my family, so I never started drinking in the first place. I also hate the taste and it gives me a headache.
I also hate not feeling in control of my actions, so I avoid vices that would do that to me.
errie_tholluxe | 17 hours ago
Truth! Life has killed 100% of all participants
Denbt_Nationale | 9 hours ago
Just drink diet soda?
Ariandrin | 8 hours ago
I have tried, I can't tolerate the taste of the diet or zero sugar ones.
Which sucks, because they are better for you and that's what my partner drinks
puterTDI | 13 hours ago
Something to consider: there are things that can bring you joy and be healthy at the same time.
Ariandrin | 12 hours ago
Sure, I just haven’t found any yet.
Except a salmon with calamansi and soy sauce. That’s healthy right?
puterTDI | 11 hours ago
That is an example. There’s also Tomas of non-food activities that bring joy and are healthy.
I also struggle with the argument that the only pleasant foods are unhealthy ones. It sounds more to me like you’re addicted to certain foods and convincing yourself they’re the only ones that see enjoyable.
At the end of the day it’s your life, so you do get to do as you want. That also means you’re the only one who can alter your habits.
Ariandrin | 11 hours ago
Well, there are several factors that go into why changes are hard for me, but I don't like getting into them too much online because people take it as me making excuses, and it's hard for me to explain all the ways that I am trying to work around them and make better choices.
I will admit that I am probably addicted to my Pepsi. But I also don't get caffeine anywhere else, as I don't drink coffee or tea, and I've made several attempts to cut it out and end up with debilitating caffeine withdrawal headaches. All the zero sugar ones are so gross that I can't tolerate them either. But I am trying.
puterTDI | 8 hours ago
Coffee and tea are both quite a bit healthier than Pepsi.
You can also slowly cut back rather than stopping outright
kdogman639 | 16 hours ago
You'll live twice as longer because you were splitting them with sis, smart move by your mom
Banjoschmanjo | 17 hours ago
Thought that said "spit a coke" and gagged.. though the reality isn't much better
r0sewaterST | 14 hours ago
You made it 40 + years with the addiction, I doubt soda will be the thing ending up killing you.
mr_herz | 6 hours ago
Find another vice to replace it with
Windblowsthroughme | 6 hours ago
Are you obese due to soda or no?
Necessary-Camp149 | 8 hours ago
hey... just stop. just, dont buy them.
drink water with lemon juice. its easy.
elddirriddle | 19 hours ago
We just can’t have anything nice or anything fun.
Ceasar456 | 17 hours ago
We
Here
For
A
Long
Time…..
Not a good time
yungrii | 14 hours ago
Whfaltn
SubtleTell | 19 hours ago
You can, you just need to be responsible and think about what you're drinking. Think about the fact that a can of soda has an insane amount of sugar and then consider how often you should have one. You shouldn't have one every day, and definitely not multiple.
ComfortableSalt3570 | 18 hours ago
So start chain drinking soft drinks every day got it 👍
zackks | 17 hours ago
Keep a 24/7 flow of Mountain Dew drinking it like an IV drip. What could go wrong
ComfortableSalt3570 | 17 hours ago
Just one IV drip? Amateur
Relevant_Chef | 13 hours ago
Look again, that’s a Roman numeral.
StuChenko | 16 hours ago
One per limb
Pip-Pipes | 16 hours ago
Since the IV sugar is skipping the stomach does this also mean it skips the stomach cancer?!
We solved it!
zackks | 13 hours ago
It dissolves the stomach. No stomach no cancer?
StuChenko | 16 hours ago
That would effectively bypass the stomach right?
victhrowaway12345678 | 16 hours ago
When I was in my teens I would have like 2 double big gulps per day and genuinely thought it was a step in the right direction swapping to beer. Like in the evenings I'll have a beer instead because it's less sugar. My pancreas is probably done by the time I'm 30.
Wowohboy666 | 13 hours ago
I'll never have just one.
Nikiaf | 18 hours ago
You shouldn't replace them with the diet/zero versions either. Artificial sweeteners open up a whole other can of worms.
SubtleTell | 18 hours ago
That's definitely not true. Obviously they still aren't good for you, but it's far better than drinking all that sugar. Plus the zero sugar versions have no calories. It's also not going to spike your blood sugar like regular soda. If you're drinking too much soda, you absolutely should replace it with zero sugar.
I've been only drinking zero sugar versions for a couple years now, and the fact that any time I try a sugar version I'm almost repulsed by it tells me everything I need to know.
errie_tholluxe | 17 hours ago
Research showed artificial sweeteners can cause early onset dementia amongst others.
Less sugar mind you!
No-Cherry-3959 | 12 hours ago
Correlation or causation? People who drink diet sodas are more likely to be diabetic and/or obese, both of which are also known to contribute to dementia, amongst numerous other health conditions. Not saying that it can’t be a causal link, but I am skeptical.
jacksontwos | 18 hours ago
Two years of Newtrition investment and research had produced CHOW™. CHOW™ contained spun, plaited, and woven protein molecules, capped and coded, carefully designed to be ignored by even the most ravenous digestive tract enzymes; no-cal sweeteners; mineral oils replacing vegetable oils; fibrous materials, colorings, and flavorings. The end result was a foodstuff almost indistinguishable from any other except for two things. Firstly, the price, which was slightly higher, and secondly the nutritional content, which was roughly equivalent to that of a Sony Walkman. It didn’t matter how much you ate, you lost weight.* Fat people had bought it. Thin people who didn’t want to get fat had bought it. CHOW™ was the ultimate diet food—carefully spun, woven, textured, and pounded to imitate anything, from potatoes to venison, although the chicken sold best. Sable sat back and watched the money roll in. He watched CHOW™ gradually fill the ecological niche that used to be filled by the old, untrademarked food. He followed CHOW™ with SNACKS™—junk food made from real junk. MEALS™ was Sable’s latest brainwave. MEALS™ was CHOW™ with added sugar and fat. The theory was that if you ate enough MEALS™ you would a) get very fat, and b) die of malnutrition. Terry Pratchett, Good Omens
DasDuckHead | 15 hours ago
You gotta stay alive as long as possible so the average age goes up and the retirement age can be raised to the benefit of mega corpos.
Now drink your kale and piss smoothie
Dispensarystoner | 14 hours ago
Last famous words
Nocturnal-Philosophy | 12 hours ago
Because life is naturally inclined toward pain and suffering.
ChanceConfection3 | an hour ago
Look, but don’t touch.
Touch, but don’t taste.
Taste, but don’t swallow.
ViciousNakedMoleRat | 17 hours ago
Let's look at the absolute risk instead of the relative risk.
Within the cohort that never drank sugary drinks, the likelihood of developing stomach cancer was approximately 0.0077% per year during the 40 years of observation.
Within the cohort that had more than 1 sugary drink per day, the likelihood was approximately 0.0163% per year.
Over a span of 60 years, this adds up to a likelihood of 0.98% for those who drank more than 1 sugary drink per day and 0.46% for those who didn't drink any sugary drinks.
Interestingly, the cohort that drank 4-7 sugary drinks per week had virtually the same likelihood to develop stomach cancer as the one who didn't drink any: 0.0079% per year / 0.48% over 60 years.
That suggests that having 1 sugary drink per day isn't really an issue but having several can be. Unfortunately, this study only collected semiquantitative data, so there is no possibility to further break down the "more than 1 sugary drink" group.
Link to the study
QueenMackeral | 10 hours ago
Did they define sugary drink? Like is it the sugar content that defines it? If I have a tsp of sugar in my coffee every day is that considered a sugary drink and the same risk as someone who drinks a coke every day?
ViciousNakedMoleRat | 10 hours ago
>In our study, we categorized SSB as carbonated beverages, punch, lemonade, and sports drinks
Serris9K | 2 hours ago
A lot of those have additives beyond sugar if not homemade. Did the study control for that?
OutsideImpressive115 | 5 hours ago
I would imagine it's not so much the sugary drink but rather the lack of plain water
Unless it specifically says both people drank the same amount of water
SpaceghostLos | 17 hours ago
Ive been doing more water and diet cokes in the last three years. But my farts and poops smell weird.
TactitcalPterodactyl | 18 hours ago
"Diet sodas showed no link" is a good takeaway here too. Some people are still convinced that diet soda is more dangerous than regular sugar-filled soda and that's clearly not the case.
Some-Pride-3477 | 15 hours ago
Aspartame, used in diet sodas has been one of the most studied substances in the field. It does have some negatives, but it's nowhere near the demonized substance some people claim it to be, at least not when consumed in normal amounts.
HumanWithComputer | 17 hours ago
Artificial sweeteners have been thoroughly tested before being allowed. I once read someone doubting sugar would be allowed if it was tested for being allowed for human consumption in the present. Caries is a disease which it is proven to cause. I have switched to sugarfree drinks to a large extent for that reason. Always surprised me the marketing never pushed that advantage of sugarfree drinks.
AshundertheOlivetree | 16 hours ago
Sugar free and sugar replacements have been Linked to colon and stomach cancers.
TactitcalPterodactyl | 16 hours ago
I hate to be this guy, but do you have a source? Everywhere I've checked says no consistent, direct link has ever been shown.
curious_but_dumb | 14 hours ago
Source for the colon cancer data: Their ass.
Karma_1969 | 9 hours ago
Citation needed please.
ShapeShiftingCats | 17 hours ago
I gave you an upvote because I agree, but I think it's important to study the effects of diet soda as well as artificial sweeteners aren't without risks.
If people learn that diet soda is in some respect also bad for them and then make the wrong conclusion that "it's all bad anyway" or "it's even worse", that's on them.
littlebighuman | 12 hours ago
The problem is, artificial sweeteners are absolutely disgusting to me for some reason. The taste lingers as well.
Then_Finding_797 | 17 hours ago
Sadly the sweeteners used in diet coke variations lead to other cancers. You can’t really say one is healthier than the other but it might be less evil?
Chankodi | 17 hours ago
Do you have references for this claim? From what I've read, there are no studies that show a link between artificial sugars (in normal amounts) and cancer.
TactitcalPterodactyl | 16 hours ago
There isn't any direct evidence as far as I'm aware. There was a fairly recent meta analysis of over 90 studies and they couldn't find any link to artificial sweeteners causing cancer. They didn't even find any link when people took massive doses equivalent to 100+ cans of pop per day.
I mean it could still be possible, maybe there's a risk but it's so insignificant that it never turns up in studies. But not enough that people should worry about drinking diet pop.
RockHardSalami | 14 hours ago
There arent any, thats why these trolls just comment this shit and bounce.
Chankodi | 13 hours ago
It's concerning how many up votes the message got. It really shows how ignorant the average redditor can be.
Geruvah | 8 hours ago
It's got 6 upvotes and the one calling him out has 21.
Plants-Matter | 15 hours ago
They never do. Anecdotally, everyone I've seen pushing the "diet Coke is worse than real Coke" narrative has a gut exploding out and spilling over their pants. I think they just really like sugar.
Shootemout | 16 hours ago
aspertame has shown a correlation with cancer but it's heavily dependent on your body weight and how much you drink. someone who's anorexic and drinks a lot of diet coke would be a lot more at risk than a really overweight person ironically enough https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Aspartame_PR.pdf is an academic article discussing the results of a study where they found a correlation between aspertame and cancer but not enough during normal dietary trials that would pose a concern.
i think it's just one of those things that if you are drinking aspertame you should be aware that it puts you at higher risk of liver and breast cancer but no worse than drinking an energy drink puts you at risk of accute kidney failure slash heart attack
Chankodi | 16 hours ago
To get to the dangerous amount mentioned in your linked article a 150 pound person would have to drink 15-17 diet cokes a day. That, as I said, is not a reasonable amount for a person to drink. My point remains unrefuted. There is little to no evidence that consuming a normal amount of artificial sugars poses any threat.
TopSloth | 15 hours ago
What would the statistics be for the chemical reaction between aspertame and caffeine?
Chankodi | 15 hours ago
From what I can find, there isn't much evidence showing any "chemical reaction" between the two in regular amounts poses any measurable threat to human health.
krell_154 | 15 hours ago
15 cans a day is at the very limit of possibility
SolarFazes | 17 hours ago
The sun gives you cancer, have some perspective
Then_Finding_797 | 17 hours ago
Yeah basically you can’t from cancer
__JDQ__ | 16 hours ago
Also, the cancer is coming from inside the house.
Some-Pride-3477 | 15 hours ago
"The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified aspartame as “possibly carcinogenic to humans” (Group 2B) in 2023, based on limited evidence, particularly concerning hepatocellular carcinoma. Importantly, the WHO/JECFA assessment concluded that the evidence did not justify changing the acceptable daily intake (ADI) of 40 mg/kg body weight/day"
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-07-2023-aspartame-hazard-and-risk-assessment-results-released
Ombortron | 17 hours ago
I mean you can definitely talk about which is healthier if you’ve got concrete robust data on the actual rates of incidence regarding cancers and other negative effects relating to various sweeteners.
Nuraya | 15 hours ago
Source please
Fun_Background_8113 | 18 hours ago
You can get away with a lot of unhealthy habits if you cut out sugary drinks (half kidding)
Ganda1fderBlaue | 16 hours ago
Breaking news: fun thing gives you cancer
AdorableExchange9746 | 17 hours ago
Everything gives you cancer. The end. It’s not gonna stop me from enjoying what i can of life
Ragebaiterlmao | 17 hours ago
Water for life.
dinosaurscantyoyo | 12 hours ago
r/hydrohomies
biofrost | 17 hours ago
Eh, here for a good time, not a long time.cracks second monster open
Derpykins666 | 15 hours ago
I'm assuming in order to double your risk for stomach cancer you would have to be ingesting an ungodly amount, or already have the predisposition to get that type of cancer. Like how do you even 'double' the risk, what are we measuring that got doubled?
Upon further reading of the article it seems like I was correct to assume, out of the 100k or so people they were tracking over the years, the only ones that stood out were extremely heavy drinkers. If you had like even a few to up to 7 sodas a week it didn't even seem to factor much into the study. Only daily drinkers were flagged specifically, and those drinkers probably had more than one on average based on what I'm seeing.
Also this research is just observational and not completely conclusive. It just seems to be a pattern among heavy soda drinkers, which yeah I would assume drinking lots of sugary drinks daily without any breaks could lead to a lot of issues.
Derrickmb | 14 hours ago
Does this include beer?
Initial_Row_6400 | 16 hours ago
What isn’t going to give us cancer at this point. I’m so over life
XavierTheMemeDragon | 14 hours ago
You know what at this rate my whole body will be cancer, literally everything causes cancer
LionBig1760 | 5 hours ago
I'm not going to live forever, and I sure as fuck dont want to live in a world where I dont get to wash down my cancer-causing hot dog with a cancer-causing Dr. Pepper a few times every summer.
travelingWords | 16 hours ago
I watched something that linked to research showing that drinking fruit drinks was as bad for you as smoking. Something about losing the balance of eating whole fruit to deal with the sugar.
And soda isn’t even the good sugar…
DarthHubcap | 10 hours ago
I would think that’s because the fruit juice lacks the fiber that the actual fruit provides.
travelingWords | 10 hours ago
As explained, yeah fibre and friends were missing blah blah blah sugar goes right to the liver and does more bad blah blah blah.
DarthHubcap | 10 hours ago
Do you know I’ve never been constipated?
Today you learn.
HatZinn | 16 hours ago
They controlled for H. Pylori too. It's over for soda enjoyers.
x__Applesauce__ | 14 hours ago
Good thing it’s onl alcohol and water
RidethatSeahorse | 14 hours ago
I remember a family friend from childhood drank 5 litres of coke a day. Died from stomach cancer in her 50’s.
The_Weekend_Baker | 13 hours ago
Most have ignored the warnings about the role sugary drinks have played in exploding obesity and type 2 diabetes rates, so after careful and thoughtful deliberation, I'm sure everyone will ignore this as well.
Alstruction | 12 hours ago
Thank god I switched to Barley tea.
granoladeer | 12 hours ago
There's probably hundreds of confounders there. People who drink sugar drinks are more likely to drink or eat other things that are bad for your health.
Smear_Leader | 12 hours ago
“Altogether 112,284 people were tracked. Across 3.2 million person-years of follow-up, 278 of them developed stomach cancer.
Only the heaviest drinkers of sugar-sweetened beverages stood out. People having one to three servings a month, one to three a week, even four to seven a week all looked much like the people who almost never drank them.
Daily drinkers were the exception, however,, at 2.45 times the risk. This is the habit that is already tied to type 2 diabetes and heart disease.”
TristanTheRobloxian3 | 11 hours ago
correlation not causation?
TsukasaElkKite | 9 hours ago
Good thing i don’t drink pop
StaticCloud | 8 hours ago
Whatever gets me out of this hell faster
Standard-Contest-949 | 7 hours ago
Can’t drink alcohol , can’t drink a pop now either. So what? Just water?! Fuck that shit I’m not going out of this life tasteless.
ramenoodz | 7 hours ago
thanking god every day for strict parents who didn’t let me drink soda as a kid because now i don’t crave it in any way as an adult
Mookeebrain | 6 hours ago
Wow, that's surprising. I thought it was spread by a germ- pylori??? Anyway, the only person I know who had stomach cancer was my alcoholic uncle. Pretty sure he never drank sodas, but lots and lots of beer and hard liquor-RIP.
soberthrowawayfairy | 4 hours ago
Real sugar or fake sugar?
Hot_Physics_8124 | 3 hours ago
Immediately thought about having a pop.
Makapakamoo | 3 hours ago
Everyone explaining equations and probability saying its still not a huge risk; let me have it.
I need this. I need the fear struck into me. I'll make this my reason to stop. If its not the cancer its gonna be kidney damage or some shit so lemme be scared of cancer
Winter_Apartment_376 | 3 hours ago
Question to Americans - are there really people out there who drink coke every day??
Always thought it was a massive exaggeration.
VarietyMage | 2 hours ago
Link doesn't mean causation.
Pirate_Candy17 | 14 hours ago
Yet sugar free alternatives are proven to disrupt gut biome and increase the risk of cancer too.
Barely anything doesn’t include either of these in some form 😭
TwoFlower68 | 13 hours ago
Water, coffee & tea?
shpongleyes | 12 hours ago
Some people drink coffee with more sugar than a typical soda. Some restaurants you have to go out of your way to get coffee without sugar (like at McDonalds, you have to dive into a customization menu and specify a quantity of 0 sugar, which is not the default)
LionBig1760 | 5 hours ago
Zero people showing up to McDonald's are worried about the cancer risk of coffee.
Arsenal8944 | 9 hours ago
99% of my fluid intake is water, black coffee, and…beer. I try to be conscious about the beer. But my trade off is that I drink virtually no soda.
oh_the_anguish | 14 hours ago
I don't even think they use real sugar in anything anymore. It's all corn syrup or similar
AlwaysUpvotesScience | 16 hours ago
For all we know, this has more to do with microplastics than sugar. They drew NO conclusions based on the article.
If i drink homemade tea with sugar in it am I at risk? probably not
Exotic_Ad_4806 | 15 hours ago
what about poppi, bloom and those low sugar alternative prebiotic sodas?
Arsenal8944 | 9 hours ago
Idk but my assumption is that they won’t be nearly as bad considering they only have like 3-5g of sugar. If ppl are drinking poppi thinking they are healthy, I think that’s silly. If they are drinking them because they are substantially less unhealthy than regular soda, then that’s reasonable I feel.