Alarming Study Finds New Evidence That the Sun Can Produce Catastrophic ‘Superflares’

266 points by malcolm58 2 hours ago on reddit | 49 comments

artemistica | 2 hours ago

An Earth-directed superflare could collapse entire power grids, destroy satellites, trigger global radio blackouts, and lead to cascading infrastructure failures that result in trillions of dollars in damages.

RockRage-- | an hour ago

And my boss will still want me in the office

Gotta make that money, sun.

Eelroots | an hour ago

If I am not mistaken, it happened in the last century, during telegraph era.

abielle1177 | an hour ago

1859 Carrington Event.

A much worse experience 14,300 years ago called a Miyaki Event. The sky turned red and everyone thought they were going to die. Also possibly 7176 BCE, 5259 BCE, 663 BCE, 774 CE, and 993 CE.

thegoldengoober | an hour ago

>The sky turned red and everyone thought they were going to die.

We would know what's going on today and that would still be the case. That must be so scary to see.

Inspect1234 | an hour ago

With wildfire smoke in the PNW you can get similar effects.

thegoldengoober | an hour ago

Oh shit, I think I've seen video of what you're talking about. Alongside fire. Some of the scariest shit.

UrDeplorable | 29 minutes ago

The carrington event was not a superflare. We have no evidence of a superflare occurring in the last 10 million years.

nari-bhat | 19 minutes ago

Yes we do, they’re called Miyake events. Well, technically Miyake events are terrestrial evidence of what are assumed to be superflares, but there is significant evidence that an extremely powerful superflare like the one detailed in the post happened around 14,000 ish years ago.

Microflunkie | an hour ago

The Carrington Event September 1859. It would be catastrophic in today’s world.

Due_Satisfaction2167 | an hour ago

We had one about half that strength back in 2024, nobody really noticed much except for the auroras super far south compared to usual.

bigfatfurrytexan | 56 minutes ago

The carrington event allowed telegraph to operate without power and they’d catch fire/electrocute operators. That other half is rough.

Due_Satisfaction2167 | 32 minutes ago

Well, no. It’s more about the massive runs of unshielded telegraph wires with absolutely no protections built in.

That’s a literal worst case scenario for geomagnetic storms.

Select_Tax_3408 | an hour ago

Yeah, like 1812 or some shit like that. I read about that and as much as I enjoy my video games and porn we could really use a solar flare to stop all the tech bros destroying the planet.

What sucks is how quickly our population is gonna dwindle as death, disease, and starvation ruin our societies due to being so dependant on electronics.

Sure hope it happens after I die because I've already lived through enough global bullshit to have to deal with an apocalyptic event like a mega solar flare.

healywylie | an hour ago

Yeah but only a chosen few can say they were there when it ended, to who I don’t know , but they could say it anyway.

thunderdome06 | 30 minutes ago

You do realise the infrastructure can be rebuilt tho right?

Plus that's why solar storms are now actively monitored. Then, in theory, electrical devices/stations/grids can be switched off/de energised and therefore saved from destruction if a known serious solar storm is coming.

Still terrifying don't get me wrong. That'd mean hospitals without power for days and you'd need a considerable amount of starting energy to turn the energy grids back on again once it's over.

Tbh though that might just be hard cope on my part, I'm just praying and hoping the best lmao

nari-bhat | 17 minutes ago

If we don’t turn shit off and everything is fried, it’ll be extremely difficult to rebuild because so much of our mining and manufacturing capacity is built off of unshielded or relatively unshielded wiring. Without metal and the tools to shape it, we’re fucked.

siqiniq | an hour ago

Well, when the super AI hacks the nuclear codes and takes over all infrastructures globally, the flare suddenly happens and hoomen would start worshipping the sun again like their ancestors.

Inspect1234 | an hour ago

It was in that moment that SKYNET became aware.

PossibleAlienFrom | 43 minutes ago

Wouldn't a super flare make SKYNET cease to exist?

Inspect1234 | 10 minutes ago

What we would be hoping for.

grateful2you | an hour ago

So... not that big of a problem. I thought it could kill us all.

Vanillas_Guy | an hour ago

People generally dont realize how helpless we actually are when it comes to natural phenomenon.

I know it sounds messed up, but learning about prehistoric mass extinctions has made me more relaxed when it comes to anxiety about climate change.

Like we are enormously lucky that volcanic activity on earth isn't what it used to be or that we havent experienced something like the paleocene-Eocene thermal maximum that lasted 200k years with global temperature hitting possibly as high as +14 Fahrenheit.

Between cosmic phenomenon and volcanic activity we're enormously lucky and if we were a more intelligent species we would have already invested heavily in climate adaptation to deal with what's coming, but also to be able to respond to solar activity and potential geological activity that wiped out other species but unfortunately we arent that bright. Bright enough to develop fictions that help us organize resources(stock markets, political systems) but not smart enough to recognize them as constructs that can be changed rather than treating them as though they are as natural and essential as breathable air, drinkable water, and fertile land.

wowwoahwow | 47 minutes ago

I mean, we are currently in a mass extinction that is mainly caused by human activity. The rate of extinction is likely higher than most, if not all, the previous mass extinction events. We don’t need volcanoes to fuck us up, we’re already doing a good job at that ourselves, and it’s not just climate change.

If our species somehow manages to figure out how to survive this extinction, I fear they’ll find themselves in a world that is no longer worth surviving in.

Crafty-Detail-3788 | 52 minutes ago

Already happened centuries ago. It destroyed telegraph

remimorin | an hour ago

Stop teasing me. Tell me when!!!

nari-bhat | 22 minutes ago

The issue is all the cool stuff would be destroyed but we’d still be alive, except with a significantly higher rate of cancer.

Jokkers_AceS | 11 minutes ago

Literally back to the Stone Age.

Fluid-Tip-5964 | 5 minutes ago

Stone age with space age knowledge...or memory. The rebuild process would be interesting. Massive cooperation or beat each other death with sticks?

teapuppee | 16 minutes ago

Well that sucks

TeamWorkTom | an hour ago

New? This has been known for a while. 20+ years. There's been a fear of an EMP shock wave from one of the flairs taking out our electrical infrastructure.

LopsidedBuffalo2085 | an hour ago

Allowing orbital data centers to suck a fat dick

microwavedtardigrade | an hour ago

At this point and this amount of shame I welcome it to directly hit the entire USA

VelkaFrey | 34 minutes ago

This isnt knew knowledge.

The carrington event was in 1859.

PossibleAlienFrom | 41 minutes ago

Didn't Nicolas Cage star in a movie about that?

MoodooScavenger | 21 minutes ago

Knowing

fluffyp0tat0 | 42 seconds ago

I've been wondering whether we take any measures to prevent superflares from knocking out nuclear reactor controls.

ToneShop | 40 minutes ago

Flair us back to the stone age please.

Ambitious-Pirate-505 | 24 minutes ago

Those of us in this space in science know that these are restricted to Solar Maximums.

I am not in the know, but the Carrington Event of 1859 took place months before the solar cycle actually peaked. And more recently, the flare in 2003, which knocked out power grids in Sweden and damaged satellites, occurred in late October 2003. About three years after the solar maximum had already peaked and the Sun was supposed to be quieting down.

Entire_Month9233 | 19 minutes ago

Wooooh!

Phssthp0kThePak | 15 minutes ago

A good short story about this by Larry Niven:

Inconstant Moon

QuietBookkeeper4712 | an hour ago

garlic bread

Inspect1234 | an hour ago

root beer

snake_on_the_case | 56 minutes ago

boot rear

Justsin7 | 30 minutes ago

Bring it on!

This could be helpful if/when AI starts going Skynet on our asses. Any chance we get a flare in the next century?

derrickjojo | 16 minutes ago

Is this not the plot of assassin's creed3