I'm a bit wary of VC driven software projects. How long til Anthropic or OpenAI buys Tangled?
That said, if they follow through with federation support, it seems a good way to give enterprises an option beyond selfhosting Forgejo.
I'm currently working on my exodus from Github. I have about 350 repos I'm moving, to both a homelab Forgejo and Coderberg. Migration to homelab Forgejo has been wonderful and problem free, Codeberg is up next.
I hope the future of open source uses the decentralised nature of Git to actually be decentralised, rather than centralized on a platform we once trusted. But open source is also under a lot of stress right now, and solving problems like supply chains and funding seem like they need real solving first.
I'm a bit wary of VC driven software projects. How long til Anthropic or OpenAI buys Tangled?
Tangled founder here. I have an essay on our decisions around financing still sitting that I need to polish and publish. In short: public funding (in Europe) is notoriously hard to get, and incredibly time consuming to apply to (not to mention the multitude of default closed doors given only one of us founders are an EU resident). VC was the quickest way for us to go full time on Tangled, build a team and scale infrastructure.
Our ultimate goal for Tangled is to be "permanent software"—and this is something we've discussed with our investors at length and they're full onboard with! Regardless of our exit path, we want to ensure that users will be able to spin up a "Tangled 2" (Twangled?) and their data (thanks to the magic of AT Protocol) will seamlessly show up there.
public funding (in Europe) is notoriously hard to get
To add to that for those outside of the EU: it's not just hard to get because there's little of it, but also because a lot of funds (or at least the ones coming out of the European Commission) are hype driven, meaning their focus changes every 5 years or so. If your project doesn't fit within that box, you're not getting funded.
So you have Git: decentralized, possible to mirror across multiple different Git servers. SourceForge, Github, Google Code, Codeberg, Forgejo: they all provide metadata on top of the raw Git servers, in the form of issues, discussions, mailing lists, pull requests, etc. Federalization (of whatever protocol) in theory allows projects to choose whatever code host there is, but have their project seem "native" to the other "forge" providers. Allowing for decentralized metadata, on top of the decentralized nature of Git.
eeue56 | 5 hours ago
I'm a bit wary of VC driven software projects. How long til Anthropic or OpenAI buys Tangled?
That said, if they follow through with federation support, it seems a good way to give enterprises an option beyond selfhosting Forgejo.
I'm currently working on my exodus from Github. I have about 350 repos I'm moving, to both a homelab Forgejo and Coderberg. Migration to homelab Forgejo has been wonderful and problem free, Codeberg is up next.
I hope the future of open source uses the decentralised nature of Git to actually be decentralised, rather than centralized on a platform we once trusted. But open source is also under a lot of stress right now, and solving problems like supply chains and funding seem like they need real solving first.
icy | 2 hours ago
Tangled founder here. I have an essay on our decisions around financing still sitting that I need to polish and publish. In short: public funding (in Europe) is notoriously hard to get, and incredibly time consuming to apply to (not to mention the multitude of default closed doors given only one of us founders are an EU resident). VC was the quickest way for us to go full time on Tangled, build a team and scale infrastructure.
Our ultimate goal for Tangled is to be "permanent software"—and this is something we've discussed with our investors at length and they're full onboard with! Regardless of our exit path, we want to ensure that users will be able to spin up a "Tangled 2" (Twangled?) and their data (thanks to the magic of AT Protocol) will seamlessly show up there.
yorickpeterse | 2 hours ago
To add to that for those outside of the EU: it's not just hard to get because there's little of it, but also because a lot of funds (or at least the ones coming out of the European Commission) are hype driven, meaning their focus changes every 5 years or so. If your project doesn't fit within that box, you're not getting funded.
zmitchell | 4 hours ago
Maybe I’m dense, but I’ve never quite understood the benefit of tying together source control with ATProto. Is it a stand-in for an identity provider?
eeue56 | 4 hours ago
So you have Git: decentralized, possible to mirror across multiple different Git servers. SourceForge, Github, Google Code, Codeberg, Forgejo: they all provide metadata on top of the raw Git servers, in the form of issues, discussions, mailing lists, pull requests, etc. Federalization (of whatever protocol) in theory allows projects to choose whatever code host there is, but have their project seem "native" to the other "forge" providers. Allowing for decentralized metadata, on top of the decentralized nature of Git.