“
Now in its 14th year, Xi's signature anti-corruption movement, targeting "tigers and flies", has punished at least 7.9 million CCP members and officials for alleged corruption.
At the fifth plenum of the CCP's 20th Central Committee this week, 33 members and alternate members were expelled from the party, including 16 from the military.
The scale of the purge is unprecedented in nearly half a century, with a record number of empty seats leaving the committee smaller than usual.
It raises a significant question that Xi has to confront: is it a sign of systematic strength or failure?”
It’s funny because this seems to be an incredibly effective campaign at tackling corruption. China has about 4x the population of the U.S. , so in the U.S. we would need to see about 2 million officials punished for corruption.
This hasn’t happened, and there isn’t evidence that even the most reform minded of people will try to make that happen. The courts seem to be entirely fine with it at the highest levels. Propublica showed that a major corruption scandal involving military procurement was killed by the FBI, and Jared Kister apparently was taking gargantuan sums of money from Saudi Arabia and the uae. Do we have any real expectation that the Justice system will ensure corruption is punished?
Yet despite that China has been far more extensive in the punishment of corrupt officials than America has both in terms of the number of people and the scale of the war on corruption. Surely we ought to consider that this has worked
China is complicated. On one hand, in my family's hometown, they are no longer using infrastructure money to "fix the road" that just got repaved a year ago and pocketing the rest, and they have a new subway. On the other hand, rule of law is just not something that exists above a certain level. You may think that this is the case with Donald Trump, but unless if you have actually lived in China, you simply can't really imagine what that means.
Under Donald Trump, rules aren't enforced for his friends or those who bribe him, but the rules still exist and can be enforced by the next President. In China, corruption is essentially just basically baked into society to the extent where it is required to operate. For example, local governments are given a budget that isn't enough to even pay for their employees so they need to impose arbitrary penalties and receive bribes just for a city to function. As a result, every business is guilty of paying bribes and every politician is guilty of accepting bribes. Since even good faith actors are breaking the rules, it's very difficult for investigations to make a distinction between who is genuinely corrupt or who is just doing what is necessary, especially when everyone is likely a mix of both and thinks of themselves as only doing what is necessary. This just incentivizes even more "relationship building" with those who have power to enforce corruption. As a result, those who are punished tend to be critics and rivals as well as those who are genuinely particularly egregious with their corruption.
Yeah, I think people who compare the US to China (or other countries dealing with widespread corruption) really do not understand the “baked into society” concept.
In the US, we’ve got corrupt individuals, some of them even very powerful and occupying offices at the top. However, the average citizen can go through their whole life without ever needing to do anything corrupt and still live a pretty good life and find success in their career.
In China, many normal citizens have done something “corrupt” or against the official law. Often not even with bad intentions. It’s necessary to get normal treatment. My mom has told me stories from when she lived in China about how she had to bribe X person with cigs or alcohol to get them to do their job (not do extra, just the job they were already supposed to be doing or faster). This “gift-giving” was expected and the cultural norm.
I don’t live there so I can’t know how accurate this is but it does seem like things are changing very slowly. I saw a paper a while back about how the red envelope bribes that people to give to doctors for treatment have been declining since they instituted the official law against it in 2014.
It's mature enough where most obvious problems can be worked out and some things work even better than in a rule of law based society, especially with infrastructure development. However, to be clear this is terrible overall, if not just because everyone hates doing it except for those who enjoy or are really good at politicking.
>For example, local governments are given a budget that isn't enough to even pay for their employees so they need to impose arbitrary penalties and receive bribes just for a city to function. As a result, every business is guilty of paying bribes and every politician is guilty of accepting bribes
Is there any particular reason you’re assuming China is being effective at tackling corruption other than the raw numbers? If trump imprisons 20 million democrats under the pretense of “corruption” would you say US is effective at tackling corruption?
>It’s funny because this seems to be an incredibly effective campaign at tackling corruption. China has about 4x the population of the U.S. , so in the U.S. we would need to see about 2 million officials punished for corruption.
I'm surprised you're taking the claims at face value. Why would you assume that a tyrannical dictator governing a repressive, one-party state is telling the truth? Xi is the most corrupt among them.
I don't doubt that there are plenty of people guilty of corruption who have been caught and punished, but there are doubtless plenty who have been purged for other reasons, such as perceived insufficient loyalty, or simply as a result of false accusations from party rivals.
When this "anti-corruption" campaign involves millions of targets, it's also inevitable that there will be only limited oversight at best. China already has an incredibly opaque criminal justice system and judiciary, no freedom of the press, and little in the way of legal recourse for wrongful convictions.
Edit: If you want to imagine an American equivalent, just look at Trump's administration sacking "disloyal" civil servants and then imagine they were also being convicted on false charges (by Trump-appointed judges) and imprisoned in re-education camps.
Xi’s campaign is not an anti-corruption campaign. It’s designed to cripple political enemies and crush anyone who could serve as competition to him anytime in the future. It’s destroying China.
Xi was suggested by Deng Xiaoping because he was the only candidate agreeable to the two factions who put him in power (Jiang and Hu Jintao).
Xi spent his first 5-year term purging all the local leaders.
He spent the second 5-year term getting rid of the 2 cliques who put him into power (Jiang Zemin 1993 - 2003, and Hu Jintao, 2003 - 2013)
He has spent his third 5-year term purging business leaders and academia even purging authors of political biographies and college dissertations.
Xi is making sure no one with any political talent survives. It is a Cult of Personality greater than that of Mao. There is no “pipeline” of talent waiting to take over.
recent executive branch evidence to the contrary aside, the US has very low rates of official corruption. China has (had?) very high rates of systemic corruption. I think the fact that the US doesn't have 2 million officials to punish for corruption is a good thing, not a mark of lax punishment of corrupt officials.
Yeah we call it lobbying, it’s incredibly easy to buy politicians here: just have some amount of plausible deniability and do everything with winks and nudges. Lol unbelievably naive to think otherwise
don't get me wrong - the US has an enormous amount of high level corruption in that exact way. That's not what this story is about though, this is about paying off a cop to not charge you with a crime or paying the mayor for building permits or that sort of thing.
ABC News: DESPOTIC FASCIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST DICTATOR KEEPS PURGING INNOCENT VICTIMS IN REGIMES LATEST CRACKDOWN!!!!! HOW WILL THEY CONTINUE THEIR AMBITIOUS MILITARY EXPANSION WITHOUT FIVE UNFILLED SEATS IN THE SUPREME MILITARY COMMAND!!!???
It's a single-party police state lead by a President-for-life.
It is incredibly hard to believe that this is legitimately about corruption. One would have to be nearly deliberately obtuse for that.
Certain sections of Reddit tend to engage in binary thinking - they think that because the US has done bad things, that therefore our geopolitical foes must therefore be the good guys.
But that's not true, and we don't have to fall prey to that thinking here in this sub.
It can be true that the US has done bad things - even terrible things - but that there are still worse nations out there with worse human rights track records.
I find it easiest to believe that it is legitimately about corruption, but also a good opportunity to clean house of people perceived to be less on board with the ideological position of those directing the project at the same time.
In many ways yes and no. We know, for example, the military has gotten much less corrupt since Deng Xiaoping, because he allowed the military to run and operate businesses like in Egypt or Bangladesh. This is no longer the case after significant reforms to the military since he stepped down.
We do also know China spends a decent amount of money trying to emulate more successful authoritarian regimes, notably by importing Singaporean expertise through Government to Government projects, direct training of Chinese officials, etc, so there is a genuine desire to emulate a non-corrupt authoritarian regime. This level of cooperation between authoritarian regimes is quite rare, and it’s stranger China would choose to emulate a small pluralistic former Western-bloc city-state, that happens to also be one of the least corrupt countries in the world and have solid rule of law under a single party system. What’s not to love for another authoritarian developmentalist regime?
It also isn’t entirely about political opposition; there are millions and millions of people involved and it’s very unlikely the guy at the DMV forcing people to pay bribes to pass driving tests (this is a real issue in many countries) was purged for being a political threat to Xi. Xi’s first term focused on direct opponents and flashy headlines (tigers), while Xi’s second term focused more on lower level civil servants/petty corruption (flies). If you knew anybody whoever travelled to say, Maoist or early reform period China you’d probably hear tales of people carrying bribe money or cigarettes for checkpoints, traffic cops, etc like you would in contemporary Africa.
Some effects of this campaign are also visible internationally; bans on Chinese officials spending on certain luxuries especially for government events have directly impacted and hurt the international wine industry, for example.
China is also not doing too bad on Transparency International’s Corruption’s Perception Index. It’s hard to measure objectively, but the perception of corruption is often just as important for say, foreign direct investment.
The Central Committee elects the president every 5 years. They removed the two term limit which lots of western news reported as "president for life".
>In China, the presidency – or “state chairman” in Chinese – is a largely ceremonial title. Real power resides in the positions of head of the party and military, two key roles that Xi also holds and was reappointed to at a key Communist Party congress in October 2023.
It's not an issue of police per capita - rather, an issue of how those police are used to oppress the government's political opponents.
Political opposition is criminalized in China. Even discussing forbidden topics is criminalized.
>China has 9 political parties.
That's dishonest, and you know it.
The Communist party permits those other eight groups to exist strictly as "non-oppositional" parties. They're functionally just internal committees by another name.
No opposition is allowed to exist. It's a single party state.
>The Central Committee elects the president every 5 years. They removed the two term limit
Right.
And Xi has conveniently had the Committee packed with his supporters, and his opposition disappeared as "corrupt."
Which leads us right back to the OP and discussion at hand.
By your own definition this would include the US, Canada, Australia, Britain, France, Germany, etc... Every country on earth at this point. Its meaningless unless that's your argument.
>parties
It is absolutely genuine. Yes theyre subservient to the CPC. The US democrats and republicans serve the same bourgeoisie interests so unless were calling them a one party state as well its legitimately true the Chinese have 9 parties.
>elections
They "dissapeared" them so well we can't even find them... Yes Xi is wildly popular as compared to the opposition Dengist faction or other opposition factions within the CPC.
China has major problems. We can critique them without parroting 50 years of red scare propaganda. Lets do a little better than that.
Propaganda? I'm sorry is there another party that isn't he communist party? And I'm not talking about the CCPs sub parties under the communist party. Please show me the other main parties that run opposite to the CCP
Do you mean dictator as in "person the US doesn't like" or "a political leader who holds absolute, autocratic power over a state without consent or free elections from the people"?
If it's the second no he was last elected for 5 years in October 2023.
No, because your logic makes no sense. What political party owns all ownershop of the American government? That's right , none. Republican, democratic, green, independence own their allegiance to no one.
How many non communist parties run in China? Right, none.
Your twisting yourself into knots to excuse the one party government in china
horseradishstalker | 15 hours ago
“ Now in its 14th year, Xi's signature anti-corruption movement, targeting "tigers and flies", has punished at least 7.9 million CCP members and officials for alleged corruption. At the fifth plenum of the CCP's 20th Central Committee this week, 33 members and alternate members were expelled from the party, including 16 from the military. The scale of the purge is unprecedented in nearly half a century, with a record number of empty seats leaving the committee smaller than usual. It raises a significant question that Xi has to confront: is it a sign of systematic strength or failure?”
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sharingan10 | 14 hours ago
It’s funny because this seems to be an incredibly effective campaign at tackling corruption. China has about 4x the population of the U.S. , so in the U.S. we would need to see about 2 million officials punished for corruption.
This hasn’t happened, and there isn’t evidence that even the most reform minded of people will try to make that happen. The courts seem to be entirely fine with it at the highest levels. Propublica showed that a major corruption scandal involving military procurement was killed by the FBI, and Jared Kister apparently was taking gargantuan sums of money from Saudi Arabia and the uae. Do we have any real expectation that the Justice system will ensure corruption is punished?
Yet despite that China has been far more extensive in the punishment of corrupt officials than America has both in terms of the number of people and the scale of the war on corruption. Surely we ought to consider that this has worked
Hothera | 8 hours ago
China is complicated. On one hand, in my family's hometown, they are no longer using infrastructure money to "fix the road" that just got repaved a year ago and pocketing the rest, and they have a new subway. On the other hand, rule of law is just not something that exists above a certain level. You may think that this is the case with Donald Trump, but unless if you have actually lived in China, you simply can't really imagine what that means.
Under Donald Trump, rules aren't enforced for his friends or those who bribe him, but the rules still exist and can be enforced by the next President. In China, corruption is essentially just basically baked into society to the extent where it is required to operate. For example, local governments are given a budget that isn't enough to even pay for their employees so they need to impose arbitrary penalties and receive bribes just for a city to function. As a result, every business is guilty of paying bribes and every politician is guilty of accepting bribes. Since even good faith actors are breaking the rules, it's very difficult for investigations to make a distinction between who is genuinely corrupt or who is just doing what is necessary, especially when everyone is likely a mix of both and thinks of themselves as only doing what is necessary. This just incentivizes even more "relationship building" with those who have power to enforce corruption. As a result, those who are punished tend to be critics and rivals as well as those who are genuinely particularly egregious with their corruption.
buymesomefish | 4 hours ago
Yeah, I think people who compare the US to China (or other countries dealing with widespread corruption) really do not understand the “baked into society” concept.
In the US, we’ve got corrupt individuals, some of them even very powerful and occupying offices at the top. However, the average citizen can go through their whole life without ever needing to do anything corrupt and still live a pretty good life and find success in their career.
In China, many normal citizens have done something “corrupt” or against the official law. Often not even with bad intentions. It’s necessary to get normal treatment. My mom has told me stories from when she lived in China about how she had to bribe X person with cigs or alcohol to get them to do their job (not do extra, just the job they were already supposed to be doing or faster). This “gift-giving” was expected and the cultural norm.
I don’t live there so I can’t know how accurate this is but it does seem like things are changing very slowly. I saw a paper a while back about how the red envelope bribes that people to give to doctors for treatment have been declining since they instituted the official law against it in 2014.
FirstNoel | 6 hours ago
So it’s systemic, not necessarily bad, but the cost of doing business.
Interesting, It’s not even really a morality thing. It just is.
Hothera | 5 hours ago
It's mature enough where most obvious problems can be worked out and some things work even better than in a rule of law based society, especially with infrastructure development. However, to be clear this is terrible overall, if not just because everyone hates doing it except for those who enjoy or are really good at politicking.
jestina123 | 3 hours ago
>For example, local governments are given a budget that isn't enough to even pay for their employees so they need to impose arbitrary penalties and receive bribes just for a city to function. As a result, every business is guilty of paying bribes and every politician is guilty of accepting bribes
Is there a source for this claim?
wongrich | 14 hours ago
"Corruption is not bad. Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved. But if I'm part of that corruption, I'll defend it."
Phallen | 9 hours ago
Is there any particular reason you’re assuming China is being effective at tackling corruption other than the raw numbers? If trump imprisons 20 million democrats under the pretense of “corruption” would you say US is effective at tackling corruption?
long-lankin | 13 hours ago
>It’s funny because this seems to be an incredibly effective campaign at tackling corruption. China has about 4x the population of the U.S. , so in the U.S. we would need to see about 2 million officials punished for corruption.
I'm surprised you're taking the claims at face value. Why would you assume that a tyrannical dictator governing a repressive, one-party state is telling the truth? Xi is the most corrupt among them.
I don't doubt that there are plenty of people guilty of corruption who have been caught and punished, but there are doubtless plenty who have been purged for other reasons, such as perceived insufficient loyalty, or simply as a result of false accusations from party rivals.
When this "anti-corruption" campaign involves millions of targets, it's also inevitable that there will be only limited oversight at best. China already has an incredibly opaque criminal justice system and judiciary, no freedom of the press, and little in the way of legal recourse for wrongful convictions.
Edit: If you want to imagine an American equivalent, just look at Trump's administration sacking "disloyal" civil servants and then imagine they were also being convicted on false charges (by Trump-appointed judges) and imprisoned in re-education camps.
Loggerdon | 9 hours ago
Xi’s campaign is not an anti-corruption campaign. It’s designed to cripple political enemies and crush anyone who could serve as competition to him anytime in the future. It’s destroying China.
Xi was suggested by Deng Xiaoping because he was the only candidate agreeable to the two factions who put him in power (Jiang and Hu Jintao).
Xi spent his first 5-year term purging all the local leaders.
He spent the second 5-year term getting rid of the 2 cliques who put him into power (Jiang Zemin 1993 - 2003, and Hu Jintao, 2003 - 2013)
He has spent his third 5-year term purging business leaders and academia even purging authors of political biographies and college dissertations.
Xi is making sure no one with any political talent survives. It is a Cult of Personality greater than that of Mao. There is no “pipeline” of talent waiting to take over.
idiotsecant | 12 hours ago
recent executive branch evidence to the contrary aside, the US has very low rates of official corruption. China has (had?) very high rates of systemic corruption. I think the fact that the US doesn't have 2 million officials to punish for corruption is a good thing, not a mark of lax punishment of corrupt officials.
sharingan10 | 10 hours ago
“Official”
Yeah we call it lobbying, it’s incredibly easy to buy politicians here: just have some amount of plausible deniability and do everything with winks and nudges. Lol unbelievably naive to think otherwise
idiotsecant | 7 hours ago
don't get me wrong - the US has an enormous amount of high level corruption in that exact way. That's not what this story is about though, this is about paying off a cop to not charge you with a crime or paying the mayor for building permits or that sort of thing.
Firecracker048 | 10 hours ago
How many here actually believe a single party state run by a 'president for life's is actually targeting corruption and not disloyalty?
Gunnarz699 | 11 hours ago
CPC: Holds politicians accountable for corruption
ABC News: DESPOTIC FASCIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST DICTATOR KEEPS PURGING INNOCENT VICTIMS IN REGIMES LATEST CRACKDOWN!!!!! HOW WILL THEY CONTINUE THEIR AMBITIOUS MILITARY EXPANSION WITHOUT FIVE UNFILLED SEATS IN THE SUPREME MILITARY COMMAND!!!???
BuT At WhAt CoSt???
The_Law_of_Pizza | 10 hours ago
It's a single-party police state lead by a President-for-life.
It is incredibly hard to believe that this is legitimately about corruption. One would have to be nearly deliberately obtuse for that.
Certain sections of Reddit tend to engage in binary thinking - they think that because the US has done bad things, that therefore our geopolitical foes must therefore be the good guys.
But that's not true, and we don't have to fall prey to that thinking here in this sub.
It can be true that the US has done bad things - even terrible things - but that there are still worse nations out there with worse human rights track records.
Aceofshovels | 9 hours ago
I find it easiest to believe that it is legitimately about corruption, but also a good opportunity to clean house of people perceived to be less on board with the ideological position of those directing the project at the same time.
MLGSwaglord1738 | 9 hours ago
In many ways yes and no. We know, for example, the military has gotten much less corrupt since Deng Xiaoping, because he allowed the military to run and operate businesses like in Egypt or Bangladesh. This is no longer the case after significant reforms to the military since he stepped down.
We do also know China spends a decent amount of money trying to emulate more successful authoritarian regimes, notably by importing Singaporean expertise through Government to Government projects, direct training of Chinese officials, etc, so there is a genuine desire to emulate a non-corrupt authoritarian regime. This level of cooperation between authoritarian regimes is quite rare, and it’s stranger China would choose to emulate a small pluralistic former Western-bloc city-state, that happens to also be one of the least corrupt countries in the world and have solid rule of law under a single party system. What’s not to love for another authoritarian developmentalist regime?
It also isn’t entirely about political opposition; there are millions and millions of people involved and it’s very unlikely the guy at the DMV forcing people to pay bribes to pass driving tests (this is a real issue in many countries) was purged for being a political threat to Xi. Xi’s first term focused on direct opponents and flashy headlines (tigers), while Xi’s second term focused more on lower level civil servants/petty corruption (flies). If you knew anybody whoever travelled to say, Maoist or early reform period China you’d probably hear tales of people carrying bribe money or cigarettes for checkpoints, traffic cops, etc like you would in contemporary Africa.
Some effects of this campaign are also visible internationally; bans on Chinese officials spending on certain luxuries especially for government events have directly impacted and hurt the international wine industry, for example.
China is also not doing too bad on Transparency International’s Corruption’s Perception Index. It’s hard to measure objectively, but the perception of corruption is often just as important for say, foreign direct investment.
Gunnarz699 | 9 hours ago
>because the US has done bad things
Are we unironically saying this but at the exact same time regurgitating US state department and CIA propaganda? We can do better than that.
The_Law_of_Pizza | 9 hours ago
What propaganda am I "regurgitating?"
That China is a police state? Or single party? Or that Xi is a president for life?
Gunnarz699 | 9 hours ago
>What propaganda am I "regurgitating?"
Proceeds to list exactly the propaganda being regurgitated. You're so close!
>police state?
China has less police per person than Australia, Taiwan, New Zealand, Ireland, and the Netherlands and are less armed and armored than all of them.
>Or single party?
China has 9 political parties. The CPC are in charge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Committee_of_the_Chinese_Kuomintang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Democratic_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_National_Democratic_Construction_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Association_for_Promoting_Democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Peasants'_and_Workers'_Democratic_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Zhi_Gong_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiusan_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Democratic_Self-Government_League
>Xi is a president for life
The Central Committee elects the president every 5 years. They removed the two term limit which lots of western news reported as "president for life".
>In China, the presidency – or “state chairman” in Chinese – is a largely ceremonial title. Real power resides in the positions of head of the party and military, two key roles that Xi also holds and was reappointed to at a key Communist Party congress in October 2023.
The_Law_of_Pizza | 9 hours ago
>China has less police per person
It's not an issue of police per capita - rather, an issue of how those police are used to oppress the government's political opponents.
Political opposition is criminalized in China. Even discussing forbidden topics is criminalized.
>China has 9 political parties.
That's dishonest, and you know it.
The Communist party permits those other eight groups to exist strictly as "non-oppositional" parties. They're functionally just internal committees by another name.
No opposition is allowed to exist. It's a single party state.
>The Central Committee elects the president every 5 years. They removed the two term limit
Right.
And Xi has conveniently had the Committee packed with his supporters, and his opposition disappeared as "corrupt."
Which leads us right back to the OP and discussion at hand.
Gunnarz699 | 8 hours ago
>police state
By your own definition this would include the US, Canada, Australia, Britain, France, Germany, etc... Every country on earth at this point. Its meaningless unless that's your argument.
>parties
It is absolutely genuine. Yes theyre subservient to the CPC. The US democrats and republicans serve the same bourgeoisie interests so unless were calling them a one party state as well its legitimately true the Chinese have 9 parties.
>elections
They "dissapeared" them so well we can't even find them... Yes Xi is wildly popular as compared to the opposition Dengist faction or other opposition factions within the CPC.
China has major problems. We can critique them without parroting 50 years of red scare propaganda. Lets do a little better than that.
frozenelf | 2 hours ago
The US added term limits only because FDR was too popular and corporations’ attempts to overthrow him failed. And Americans think that spells democracy.
Rinychib | 6 hours ago
wow incredible, a redditor that has ridiculous beliefs about china, so rare
Firecracker048 | 10 hours ago
It's literally a single party stated run by a dictator and you think it's all truly about corruption?
Gunnarz699 | 9 hours ago
>It's literally a single party stated run by a dictator
You should stop getting your information from the propaganda arm of a country run by a child rapist.
Firecracker048 | 9 hours ago
Propaganda? I'm sorry is there another party that isn't he communist party? And I'm not talking about the CCPs sub parties under the communist party. Please show me the other main parties that run opposite to the CCP
Also is Xi not a dictator?
Gunnarz699 | 9 hours ago
>Propaganda? I'm sorry is there another party that isn't he communist party?
Yes. There are 9 parties.
China has 9 political parties. The CPC are in charge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Committee_of_the_Chinese_Kuomintang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Democratic_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_National_Democratic_Construction_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Association_for_Promoting_Democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Peasants'_and_Workers'_Democratic_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Zhi_Gong_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiusan_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Democratic_Self-Government_League
>Also is Xi not a dictator?
Do you mean dictator as in "person the US doesn't like" or "a political leader who holds absolute, autocratic power over a state without consent or free elections from the people"?
If it's the second no he was last elected for 5 years in October 2023.
Firecracker048 | 9 hours ago
Ah so it is the communist party in charge and everyone is subservient.
Sorry that's not '9 parties ', that's 9 subsets of the ccp
Gunnarz699 | 8 hours ago
By this logic the Democrat and Republican parties serve the same Bourgeoisie as a one party state?
There isn't a non "one party state" by that metric outside Africa (and only there because of ethnic division).
China has enough actual problems to critique without resorting to 50 years of red scare propaganda. We can do better than that.
Firecracker048 | 7 hours ago
No, because your logic makes no sense. What political party owns all ownershop of the American government? That's right , none. Republican, democratic, green, independence own their allegiance to no one.
How many non communist parties run in China? Right, none.
Your twisting yourself into knots to excuse the one party government in china
Rinychib | 6 hours ago
the united states effectively has a one party system why are you not pissing yourself over that
breakwater | 7 hours ago
It makes sense if the account is magically getting through the great firewall
CardAble6193 | 3 hours ago
what if I tell you china corruption is clear as day , showed on the gap between its gdp and average wage?
also look at chinese social security min pay/m vs chinese avg. pay
CardAble6193 | 4 hours ago
what if I tell you china corruption is clear as day , showed on the gap between its gdp and average wage?
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