Who are these 34% Americans who are enjoying all of this? I get some people have profited from market manipulation and from tariffs cutting competition in their industry. May be some grifters have benefited from social media clout as well. But it certainly can't be third of Americans. What are the other ones smoking?
I’m actually a really surprised it dropped under 35%. I really thought 35% would 100% support him at all times. If it drops under 30%, I will be shocked and regain a little faith in humanity.
They think he will end their suffering, I believe. He's unchecked now, that was the promise. He's always been able to do it all for them but those damn liberals handcuff him. Well, now he's free, and they're not better a year in.
I think we haven't seen the end of attrition by a long shot. I think his administration has effectively no ability to improve things, regardless of their agenda, because they're incompetent. So they can't win them back.
They don't want to improve things. They want things getting worse. So they can declare martial law. Why would they be cutting all the programs and subsidies to the coal cut counties/boonies if they actually cared about their base at all?
They also want martial law. They think it means “all the white guys get to go shoot the [insert slurs]!”
My uncle is sort of dude who’s just itching for the chance to go shoot someone who’s brown, or who’s queer, or just a damn dirty liberal. There’s a frightening number of people out there just like him.
I don’t talk to him anymore after our last conversation.
I think there are people who truly have a death wish because they think there'll be a rapture they'll survive and only be with others who are as Christian as they are. It's a death cult - they want this.
They do not really care about improving things for themselves as much as making things worse for Americans that they disagree with. The whole maga movement can be summed up as : “if I obey Trump then he will punish the weak and poor liberals that cause all of my problems”
Politically, this is more than a slight crack. It's impossible to argue you have a mandate when two thirds of the country doesn't agree with you and the remaining third is still trying to figure out if the wolves on their three wolf shirts go on the back or the front.
> John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --
Tyrone: 27%.
John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.
Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.
John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?
Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.
John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?
it's actually higher than 27% because they're not factoring in the 27% on the other side. basically what we're saying here is that some percentage of people do not think critically, whether that's because they're crazy or because they're misinformed or uninformed or indoctrinated or whatever. but those people exist on both sides in a two-party system. if we assume that it's roughly the same number, then you're getting ~25% on each side, ie roughly half the voters are in this category.
>if we assume that it's roughly the same number, then you're getting ~25% on each side, ie roughly half the voters are in this category.
I just wanna point out, that this is not how percentages work. If both sides have a crazy quotient of 25%, then the overall is still 25%. You cant just add them up.
And thats the thing. They arent. One side specifically preys on misinformation, and the other sides voters have proven over and over again to be more informed
Unemployment rate just hit 4.8 percent. We ARE in a recession and companies are laying off left and right but the bootlicking media is too scared to report on it.
Well a recession is 2+ consecutive quarters of negative gdp growth. Of course it ignores the distribution of any benefits of that gdp growth... So yeah just stop being poor /s
Bush really set the stage for the politics of resentment which Trump rode in 2016. A lot of the dissatisfaction Trump spoke to was a result of errors by Bush.
Dubya never truly had the support of the crazies. The Compassionate Conservative slogan rubbed them the wrong way. I suspect Trump's floor is a good bit higher then Dubyas.
Wealthy businessmen owners who are insulated from the reality of price sensitivity, labor stress, and if they will be bothered by ICE. It’s an awful state just a year in.
Bush brought us to a dragged out war and crappy economy yet that’s not as bad as a legitimate pedophile who is starting wars and manufacturing an abysmal economy.
This is freaking crazy. We impeached a president for a blowjob. Watergate is like a minor violation compared to anything done in this administration.
That number is likely actually around 18% people are waking up. Slowly and its not because of some newfound morality.
Its because hes destroyed rhe economy.
And dems need to get out ahead of this message that the economy has been thrashed so fully that it will take a decade if not a generation to rebuild that trust.
Dare I say it, but Trump seems to be slowly but surely edging toward a point of statistical no return in the polls. Over the past two weeks, negative-Trump news has far outweighed pro-Trump news in virtually every category: the economy, immigration, international relations, domestic politics, the Epstein files, even the culture war BS conservatives revel in (e.g., Bad Bunny v. Kid Rock). Trump and his goons are getting absolutely bodied right now. Carney’s speech, Osoff’s speech, Tulsi Gabbard randomly showing up to plunder voter rolls in GA, Tulsi Gabbard keeping a whistleblower complaint in her desk for a year, Bovino getting canned and kicked out of a Vegas bar, Elon being summoned to court by a federal judge to account for his DOGE shenanigans, Aileen Canon under pressure to release Jack Smith’s investigative findings into Trump’s attempt to overturn the election, Massie and Khanna linking arms and releasing actual Epstein file names and confirming that it’s just the tip of the iceberg.
This is the first time I’ve said this during this entire Trump term, but it’s starting to feel like the momentum really is shifting.
Sadly, I disagree. If you watch OAN / NewsMax / Fox, everything is absolutely golden right now. Trump is getting rid of woke in schools, getting men out of women's sports and restrooms, and money is pouring in from foreign investments. He's hunting down all the fraudsters that stole his supporters' tax dollars in Minnesota and playing 4D chess with all of his foreign affairs dealings.
That's the narrative ~40% of the country is consuming, along with highly curated and edited footage to show trans people, immigrants and democrats as domestic terrorists.
He's saving America from the horrors of the woke left and bringing back common sense.
And of course, this is all being propagated through a Kremlin backed network of YouTubers too.
I agree with both of you. The thing is, when I'm talking momentum, or cultural shift, I see it it more through the lens of broader american culture, and "normal" non political people. For the first time in ten years, it's no longer based to like Trump. It's not cool to be a republican. People like andrew schulz, and many of the media ass hats see it too, and are now apologizing, and reversing their opinions on everything. Young support has FALLEN OFF A CLIFF. I can easily see this one myself without all the statistics that have come out recently. The vibes, and cultural fabric of the county IS changing, most people can see it.
Now at the same time, his bottom 30% or so aren't going anywhere. This was already factored in YEARS ago in left wing spaces. There's absolutely change in the right wing space though. I live in a red state within a whole red region, and I can see the difference now compared to just months ago. Does this mean people are no longer watching right wing media? No. Does this mean they're becoming left wing? No. Does this mean these people no longer believe all the rhetoric pushed on them for years now? No. But, you know what IS happening? For the first time in TEN FUCKING YEARS, most people around me are FINALLY shutting the fuck up about politics, and trump. They know how bad he's doing. A lot of them would still say they're a trump supporter on paper, but they're ashamed, distancing themselves, and being real quiet IRL. If you take this group of people out of the equation, Trump is closer to 20%. It seems like it would be lower than that, but a good chunk of these people aren't even in the original 35%, they already "left". Again, they are still very right wing.... that's gonna take a lot of effort to fix. So much propaganda, and damage had happened in the last decade.
The only reason the country is headed in its current direction is because Trump voters couldn't learn the obvious lessons at any point along the line.
Not at the indictments, the convictions, the assault on the Capitol, the impeachments, or any other one of the literally innumerable transgressions, or anti-american actions he's engaged in.
Why would you be surprised if normal people don't think there's anything that could change a Trump supporter's 'mind'?
It's good that you can change your mind, just wish you had done it before giving him this term that he's using to recklessly squander America's biggest advantages.
I get it if you aren't excited by democrats, they have this amazing power to somehow miss slam dunks.
But it would be really great not to fall for the most openly corrupt candidate available next time around.
In fact, maybe consider championing election reform. The two parties have way too much power and influence over who even gets on the ballot. Take big money out of the equation and make them run in fair, open elections and they'll have to do better to win instead of this race to the bottom we find ourselves in now.
Out of curiosity, as it sounds like you may be on the younger side of the voting spectrum, what attracted you to vote for him versus the other candidates? Also, is it just the economy now that is changing your mind?
You're appalled that he did exactly what he said he would do? How did you even find your way onto this website? I imagine it's hard to navigate the internet when you are both blind and deaf.
Trump blowing out the debt, inflation, and deficits to historic levels, and then gas lighting us on Truth social saying affordability crisis is a hoax. I was off the trump train in 2024 but he won my vote in the end thanks to Elon and RFK being on board. Now I’m politically homeless but I know that republicans aren’t the answer.
Specific bad moments recently was proposing 50 year mortgages, trying to influence the Fed rate decisions, threatening Greenland, and proposing sending money directly to HSA instead of proposing any actual health insurance plan.
Well, he was perfectly fine with the racism and lawlessness during Trump's first term. He just doesn't like experiencing a bad economy right now. So my guess is he doesn't give a flying fuck about other people.
It’s nuanced. We need to enforce immigration laws and ICE is doing an important job. But I don’t agree with deporting good, contributing people. And definitely don’t like the recent shooting incidents
>If it drops under 30%, I will be shocked and regain a little faith in humanity.
I'm gonna lose faith either way. If it drops now, it's basically because the consequences that were logical and known for a very long time finally bit them in the ass. And because it now hurt them, they will react.
The Fox News watchers who are being distracted from their own grocery bills by jingling keys. The non-political types that don’t follow the news about trade and the economy and still think china pays the tariffs. But even Fox News is struggling to spin this much longer, hence the continued decline in ratings. You can only pretend for so long, and at this point we are in a recession, if not depression. Why else refuse to publish the numbers like this administration has? But they can’t hide it, people are feeling it in the wallet and that’s hard to ignore for long.
Truly. Fascism is only as strong as its propaganda.
By all definitions it’s fascism. I didn’t wanna use the word, but here we are and here we have been.
No consequences, no accountability, the constitution is truly only a piece of paper and its purpose is being eroded.
MAGA aren’t free trade, family values, etc etc conservatives/republicans they are an artifact created by (mainly) FOX.
bro.. lot of that 34% isn’t “enjying” anything. It’s tribal loyalty, sunk-cost thinking, and people who feel like their side is wining culturaly even if their wallet isn’t. For some, vibes > outcomes.
Key and Peele did a sketch where an old man was recovering from a major surgery and the doctor (Key) was debriefing him. He explained that the surgery was paid for via Obamacare, so the man immediately started trying to undo the surgery. It’s hyperbolic, but I do believe a staggering number of them can’t bring themselves to ever express disapproval of the man.
I know a lot of ghouls and gremlins that base their entire existence on intentional cruelty. They also couldn’t discern a good economy from a bad economy if either bit them in the face. The only thing they truly care about is the perception that someone is suffering worse than they are, even if they are feeling some pain.
Sadly, they are everywhere. It’s part of why I think the country as we know it is permanently cooked. Even if the democrats take back both houses of Congress, you still have millions of people like this that will come clawing back in two years time. The same broken DNA of the country, the same one that nearly ripped it apart in the 1860s and then withheld its progress for nearly one hundred years before the 1960s is also the same one that will relentlessly bankrupt not only the economy, but also the soul of the United States. Buckle up, it will not be easy.
And if the Democrats do get both houses, and then the nation is not totally Sunshine And Rainbows in 2028, then voters blame the Democrats and punish them by bringing the Republicans back....
Out of a team of 12 people that do IT and work with me I know for a fact that 3 of them are rabid Trump supporters and would probably gleefully read my obituary if ICE murdered me.
I bet there's another 2 that are the same but keep their mouths shut.
I don't bother trying to reason with her. I think she just goes off vibes and his deranged tweets insisting we have "the hottest economy" on the planet.
The most rabid maga I know lives completely on government assistance and has for decades. He's also in church every time the doors are open.
Spends hours on FB making fun of "libs".
Trump could come burn his house down and he'd approve of it and say trump did a great job.
I think there are more people out there like this than we care to admit.
These same people think every deduction on their paycheck is federal income tax, and then they also probably receive a large tax refund every year as well.
Ask the average MAGA hat wearer what the blended federal income tax rate is for a family of 4 making $100k. I'd be surprised if they stated a number less than quadruple the actual value.
A bit of history that we all seem to just act like never happened. Even post-WW2, there was huge support and belief in Hitler’s policies and for many Nazi programs. There is just always going to be a problem with people supporting awful shit and the monsters behind them, even after every opportunity to turn away from them and know better.
What is needed is for there to never be an end to the discourse and efforts by people who know better to move on and not be weighed down by fools.
>The Germans recall what they term the "attractive" aspects of nazism, such as full employment, public works and vacations with some degree of nostalgia, the United States experts added. However, the Germans generally joined in condemning the odious features of nazism, such as the persecution of minorities, the concentration camps, aggressive war and genocide.
I hate the guy but my net worth went from 390K at election to 640K today by cashing in on the weak dollar exploding my 100% international 401k portfolio
I'm guessing that those are people who will support him no matter what. I'd be surprised if the number of people who are thriving in this economy are above 1%.
The triple Trump forever Trumpers I had a cousin say he thinks the economy is better he’s a financial advisor at Edward Jones and a Trump bootlicker child of immigrants.
I would assume the rich retired 65+ contingent who’s MA plan hasn’t been impacted or the persons situation was already shit before and their shit situation hasn’t changed in their eyes except Trump going after brown people which they view as an improvement.
Trump proved that no matter how bad you are, you always have at least a third of the US votes. You could literally be the devil himself, and about 35% of Americans would still vote for you.
There are people who send their entire social security checks to provide televangelists with private jets. These are them, or them within the next 7years
There are many Americans that buy whatever slop product trump announces, like his shoes, watch, trump coin. I get the impression they aren't the sharpest tools in the box when it comes to understanding how the economy or money works.
Its maga. Thats the maga rate in america. 1 in 3 americans are shit heads. 1 in 3 americans give a shit. And 1 in 3 americans dont give a shit, thereby allowing the shit heads to stay in power.
People will continue to think everything is fine until they feel the pain personally. The world could be burning down around them but if their pockets are full they will say things are great. There are at least 34% of Americans who feel like that.
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."
The Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
1 in 5 Americans is functionally illiterate. 1 in 2 reads below 6th grade level. A significant part of society has zero idea of what’s happening around them.
sunk cost fallacy. These people have spent nearly the past decade making trump their entire identity. Facing the truth and admitting they were wrong would be a literal reality shattering event for them. They will literally die for trump before they turn on him. It's not an exaggeration when people say these maga idiots are in a cult
just anecdotal but I live with a MAGAt in their 60s and ALL they do all day every minute (literally) is listen to other people (podcasts, shows, whatever the fuck) talk about how amazing Trump is. I never hear them listening to the man himself or listening to any sort of counterpoints. it's 24/7 365 listening to other people say hes amazing. I imagine that's the 34%. people otherwise completely disengaged politically listening to weirdos suck on the boot all day. celebrity meatriders that are ride or die for Trump for ethereal reasons completely divorced from reality.
You will notice, going all the way back to George Bush, the number will always be 33%. Always. One particularly horrible week for bush it was 29%. There is a mythical third of the country that will ride and die any crazy train from a republican government. That is the republican base.
America is still huge. 9.8 million square kilometers, nearly the landmass of Europe. There are lots of rural people who can’t immediately feel the impact of his policies
You know them when you run into them. Angry, hateful, toxic people. Especially seniors. They don't laugh, they're rarely smile. They use racist words, deeply hate lgbtq, and drive like complete psychopaths. They are a cancer in American society
About 5% of them are Ultra Rich wealthy fucks who are really well invested and actually making a killing off of this corruption.
The rest are brainwashed moron cult members who believe that this billionaire is on their side and nothing that you can show them or say will ever change their mind.
"These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. And I can't change their mind. I won't change my mind, 'cause I don't have to. 'Cause I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change."
These are Regular people like your family, neighbours and friends who voted for trump.
A vast majority of Americans are not good people. They are extra greedy, who would be fine seeing the government wanting to invade Greenland and Canada, and think trump is a genius.
A large percentage of this small percentage will support Trump's economic policies even though those policies are bad for them, simply because they are incurious cult members who will always choose the "Trump good, non-Trump bad" option in any of these surveys.
If you’re retired and don’t need any kind of job, your stock investments are fine and your pension checks are coming as normal. Sure, certain manufactured goods are expensive, but if you’re at a point where you’ve bought everything you need, it doesn’t matter that much.
Ill explain since my parents are some of these 34%.
They do not care. They get all their news from Fox. They do not trust any other media, and are legacy racists.
Unless trump personally came, violently attacked my parents himself, they are utterly incapable of saying they made the wrong decision.
Every major piece of news this year from Trump is something they can spit. Protesters shouldnt have protested so they deserved to die. Meanwhile they reprimanded me for laughing about kirks death.
I regularly remind them that I am half Puerto rican, along with my brother, and that this shit really worries us. We're being overdramatic, we're not real Puerto ricans because i look white, and my brother is a light skinned PR too.
I remember what my mother said when Obama ran 16 years ago, and I have absolutely 0 doubt she feels the exact same way. "N------ cant run his own home N---- cant run the country."
The worst part about all of it being that you CANNOT discuss it with my mother. She will start screaming about how she doesnt wanna talk politics, while she actively supports a pedophile rapist because when she was a kid her dad sold her to some black guys around the hood. But its ok for trump cuz hes white:)
This bitch had the kids playing white America by Eminem as when the poor folks at rent a center came to pick up her couch and tv she didn't pay for
You want the truth? These 34% are some of the ugliest, most narcissistic scum on the planet
They actually believe all the epstein files have been released, trump has never been mentioned once, and bill clinton was the actual mastermind
I am not exaggerating when I say this planet will be a better place with both of them dead.
It’s gone on so long that the people left are pedophiles too poor to visit an island. They don’t see what the big deal is because they would victimize kids as soon as they could afford it, too. We’re surrounded by creeps, it’s about one in three.
Labor market is meh. Inflation (especially in food) is running hotter than normal. The king of negative supply shocks is essentially taxing Americans via tariffs, immigration policies, and trade. Manufacturing ain’t returning.
We’re witnessing, in real time, the destruction of our reputation, which underpins our economic system.
Yeah, stock market appreciation has been nice for those of us who recognize the benefits of saving, but even a large fraction of us think this benefit is massively outweighed by the costs previously.
Edit: the average MAGA is poor and stupid, so they certainly aren’t benefitting; being in a cult, however, means they will grovel to Dementia Donny. That said, the only ones that have to feel good are those with the capital to bribe influence.
He'll go online and rant at 1AM, saying the polls lie and everything is great. His cabinet/staff won't say anything beyond vague, supportive statements. The media will do that thing of stating everything going on but NOT calling out the Trump admin for creating this mess.
The worst thing about the Cheeto Pedo is that despite people telling him that the Emperor wears no clothes is the insistence that these people are lying, losers, fake news, etc.
Yeah the destruction of our reputation is the worst part. The rest of world now knows they can’t trust our country anymore. A large portion of the US is too ignorant to see just how dangerous this charismatic nepo baby really was and now he in control of the most dangerous country in the world, a country which used to be looked up to, to a degree.
>Yeah, stock market appreciation has been nice for those of us who recognize the benefits of saving, but even a large fraction of us think this benefit is massively outweighed by the costs previously.
But even the US stock market has gotten crushed this year by basically every other developed nation this year.
Recessions can happen with 4% inflation. They can happen with 10%.
So, either your choice of 6% was nonsensical, or your second point is more accurate; higher unemployment may be a recession. Because there is not a strong, positive correlation between 6% unemployment and a recession.
Don’t get pissy because your choice of a specific number isn’t indicative of a recession. And MAY not necessarily be a bad thing, depending on the composition of the unemployment. That level of specificity is more harmful than helpful, because there is rarely a numerical threshold.
Next time, simply point out that non-frictional unemployment is likely to rise.
Read the comment thread and see that i nvr said unemployment numbers equate recession. Either way, recession is coming and it will be caused by trumps policies.
To put it in perspective, 6% is much higher than what it was during the 2009 recession. We are at 2009 recession unemployment right NOW but no one in the media is allowed to talk about it.
Portland Oregon construction is getting SLOW i know lots of framers, drywallers, plumbers out of work, and electrician told me the IBEW(electricians union) has an out of work list of almost 1000. But everyone’s saying, it will get better soon. Hopefully.
Look my wife is an anesthesiologist and part of a group that constantly adjusts her salary based on cost of living. Its gone up 3 times since trump was has been in office for nearly a 30% increase.
I say this because this is a group of people that as a group refuse to be paid less over time for their job, which is absolutely critical.
I think its a very fair assessment of what we're seeing as far as how much things have increased in cost.
Globally he has created resistance in buying an American product or service. Before people would just buy US without mental friction. Now people are actively rewiring their supply chains away from the US. This takes time but will happen. This week alone you have Macron talking about US dollar hegemony and China is pushing the Yuan as an alternative reserve currency- they are far off that but the fact it’s even considered is signalling a change.
A weakening labor market is how you fight inflation. Our reputation is improving since we’re not run by a weak president and admin anymore. We’re in charge.
Reputation so good that companies are building trade agreements with other economies, refusing to partner with us on initiatives, preemptively protesting our plans, reducing their imports from us, reducing their tourism travel to us, building strategic military alliances without us, withholding operational intel from us, divesting their technology stacks from us...
How is his economic approval rating 34% and his overall approval rating is 40%?! The economy is supposed to be his thing! Do Americans think calling Canada the 51st State and threatening to take over Greenland is good foreign policy? His work with ICE is a DISASTER. The Epstein files are right there!
How is his economic approval lower than his overall approval?!
A significant portion of Americans are religious freaks and think the Democratic Party is satanic and therefore will support the GOP no matter how badly they fuck things up
His overall approval in this particular survey is 37%. His issue-based approval ratings range from 31%-35%, with one exception: immigration (40%). Meaning there are a handful of people who disapprove of his economic handling across the board (taxes, inflation, spending) but support him because they still somehow believe in the illusion that he has good immigration policy.
I suppose economic issues are things you feel directly and are thus hard to ignore, whereas you can still be Fox News propagandized over more abstract issues that you're only being told affect you.
You could show every American a video of Trump raping a 10 year old girl and murdering a newborn baby and there would still be 30% of them who support Trump no matter what. A solid third of this country is so far gone they aren't worth saving.
Let's not say that.. That's partially what got us into this shit. We took the black, Hispanic, Asian vote for granted and turns out. Some of them were racist fuckers as well
I do not know how Trump sees the US economy in "good shape", then goes ahead and praises the GPD "growth".
His tariffs increased the cost of living. Then he always supports high income Americans more than those who settle in low income areas. The Trump administration loves to pick and choose who it wants to benefit, and not in a good manner.
Even more so, Trump implemented tariffs due to a supposed economic emergency, yet at the same time he keeps saying our economy is the hottest in the world.
If Wero, the EU alternative to Visa and Mastercard gains traction it could be financially devastating for the American payment systems. It would also mark a real turning point in how EU lost its faith in the US market.
Yep. Every transaction in Europe via a card pays fees to the US. People are aware of this now and resent it. Also corporations that funnel tax to Ireland or direct to the US - nope, not acceptable. Plus Starbucks is terrible coffee and food anyhow.
The man literally said he wants houses to be more expensive. He wants you to never afford be able to afford a home. 34% of y'all are dumb shits if you are okay with that.
Who the fuck is this 34% and what do they do for a living? Among other things like the current police state being inflicted upon us, inflation and prices are ridiculous, the January job numbers were atrocious, and the unemployment rate is at its highest since the recession of 2009. So if we were judging based purely on the economy, he should be at 0 percent. He hasn't done a goddamn thing to acknowledge it or fix it. I really want to know what alternate reality these people are living in where their job isn't in jeopardy and their grocery bills haven't gone up, and what color the sky is in that world.
It will be interesting to see the actual bottoming out of the approval rating, if we somehow ahead access to perfect information, when the true hardships really kick into full gear. With the government Deleting The CIA World Factbook I have a bad feeling Access the information is going to be a luxury for a very few In the years that come
So roughly one third of americans are either accepting of pedophilia and being puppeted by the Russians, or hate queer and PoCs so much they don't care.
My company is estimated to pay 9million of our ~80million revenue in tariffs because the steel we use isn’t profitable to make in America the 300 employees we have are losing out on 9million in profit sharing/company evaluation super tired of winning and my moron coworkers will still continue to wear their trump2028 shirts
People that already own a house and have a lot of money are the only ones doing OK right now. The job market is an absolute shambles, everything's getting more expensive, housing is a wet dream and people are starting to feel the pinch everywhere. Once AI goes downhill, the bubble pops and we're all in an instant recession.
Billionaires will buy low when the economy tanks and buy up what's left in our lives that can be monetized.
Honestly looking for an answer. Who are these 34% and what are they in approval for? The corporate tax cuts or anti-environmentalism pro-business moves? Do they actually believe his rants about the best economy?
Maga popularity needs to collapse farther, until fascism becomes a true lodestone that breaks these people. They have abandoned the working class, hurt immigrants, hurt Ukraine, threatened Canada of all people, started a random war or two, and created a masked paramilitary. This cannot be considered normal.
Forget approval ratings for anything. how has the calls for him to resign not been louder? He’s the most mentioned person in the Epstein files. He’s deflecting so hard even his base is struggling to run cover for him. His brand is toxic because he’s a known rapist.
Trump's overall approval is almost the same as his worst score during his first term.
Trump's immigrant policy is his most popular policy. -11% or something.
Trump has core support who does not budge easily. Only thing that matters is how supporting him affects politicians in areas needed to win the house and the senate. About the only thing that sways elections is the economy (or perception of it).
Conservatives, Rebublicans, Lean Rebublican's. non college educated, working class people. Mostly white. White evangelicals 58%, white catholic 46%. White protestant, not evangelical 33%. About a quarter of Americans today (27%) say they support all or most of Trump’s policies and plans... Just look Pew Research for answers.
69% support in Wyoming
68% support in West Virginia.
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50% support in Texas
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38% support in New York.
36% support n California.
26% support in Vermont.
The problem is authoritarian leaders don't particularly worry about low poll numbers. In Trump's case he is nearly 80 year old. His end game is protect himself from the justice system. He has a clear grasp on the Presidency, a Congress that will not cross him out of support or fear, and a Supreme Court that isn't going interfere with what it sees are politics while pursuing its ideological program. I just don't know how much poll numbers really matter given the structural advantages for the Republicans in the moment, and how far people working for Trump will go. For all practical purposes, he controls the guns. You're looking at a year of largely dictatorial rule followed by we know not what.
My problem as a social science trained researcher is if I saw all this in another country that is sliding into a form of Constitutional Authoritarianism so rapidly, I am not sure what the counterweight is without sustained mass demonstrations. The free press is supposed to provide a counterweight, but something we learned is Trump was very profitable for corporate media in his first term, and they kind of liked it. What remains of the corporate media is largely cowed to keep the money rolling for their parent corporations in a kind of crony kleptocracy, so I would not expect much help in that direction.
The Trump Administration's goal right now is to run the economy hot, capture the Fed, and pour tax rebates from the BBB into people's pockets to let them know how good Trump is for them into the mid-terms. It would not surprise me to see them succeed in keeping all the power into 2028.
Americans seems largely apathetic about Trump. People may complain about the weather, but there's nothing they are going to do about it. Of course, bolts of lightning happen.
His core base is something like 34%, so this isn't surprising. Fwiw, those people will likely never say they disapprove of him, but I imagine behind the scenes they're a mix of too stupid to understand, don't actually know whats happening, and secretly disapprove but tribally approve
psrandom | 21 hours ago
Who are these 34% Americans who are enjoying all of this? I get some people have profited from market manipulation and from tariffs cutting competition in their industry. May be some grifters have benefited from social media clout as well. But it certainly can't be third of Americans. What are the other ones smoking?
LarrySupertramp | 21 hours ago
I’m actually a really surprised it dropped under 35%. I really thought 35% would 100% support him at all times. If it drops under 30%, I will be shocked and regain a little faith in humanity.
Efficient_Comfort_47 | 21 hours ago
27% is the percentage of truly hard core, never die crazies. Or, at least that was as low as GWB ever got
LarrySupertramp | 21 hours ago
That’s a great point! Although I feel like Trump’s near complete control of the GOP and Congress is somewhat different than Bush’s.
Just seeing slight cracks in Trumps base brings me some hope. For a while I thought his support would never drop.
Oberlatz | 20 hours ago
They think he will end their suffering, I believe. He's unchecked now, that was the promise. He's always been able to do it all for them but those damn liberals handcuff him. Well, now he's free, and they're not better a year in.
I think we haven't seen the end of attrition by a long shot. I think his administration has effectively no ability to improve things, regardless of their agenda, because they're incompetent. So they can't win them back.
bak3donh1gh | 19 hours ago
They don't want to improve things. They want things getting worse. So they can declare martial law. Why would they be cutting all the programs and subsidies to the coal cut counties/boonies if they actually cared about their base at all?
Oberlatz | 17 hours ago
I'm talking about the people who support the administration. The misled ones.
adamdoesmusic | 17 hours ago
They also want martial law. They think it means “all the white guys get to go shoot the [insert slurs]!”
My uncle is sort of dude who’s just itching for the chance to go shoot someone who’s brown, or who’s queer, or just a damn dirty liberal. There’s a frightening number of people out there just like him.
I don’t talk to him anymore after our last conversation.
agumonkey | 17 hours ago
This guy dreams of being an emperor, he will die like Cesar
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
I think there are people who truly have a death wish because they think there'll be a rapture they'll survive and only be with others who are as Christian as they are. It's a death cult - they want this.
tiddayes | 15 hours ago
They do not really care about improving things for themselves as much as making things worse for Americans that they disagree with. The whole maga movement can be summed up as : “if I obey Trump then he will punish the weak and poor liberals that cause all of my problems”
gwils_cupleah6240 | 14 hours ago
More intentionally evil than incompetent, I’d say.
Oberlatz | 6 hours ago
Hanlon's Razor
SJK00 | 13 hours ago
You forget about “the deep state”
Oberlatz | 6 hours ago
I didn't forget about them, I'm just not talking about them. They're boring, their motives are not complex.
7daykatie | 10 hours ago
> They think he will end their suffering, I believe.
So they do remember his COVID mishandling?
Oberlatz | 6 hours ago
Yes but they recall that as Fauci's fault.
Soybean farmers are gonna be hard pressed to draw a line to someone else though.
josh_the_misanthrope | 14 hours ago
Politically, this is more than a slight crack. It's impossible to argue you have a mandate when two thirds of the country doesn't agree with you and the remaining third is still trying to figure out if the wolves on their three wolf shirts go on the back or the front.
Aleashed | 11 hours ago
This is just % based on the economy.
They still 100% approve of all his bs, racist tweets, kid rock affair, papers nominations and tp USA alliance.
DepopulationXplosion | 19 hours ago
> John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --
Tyrone: 27%.
John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.
Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.
John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?
Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.
John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?
Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?
John: ... a bit low, actually.
Keeper151 | 19 hours ago
This should be a skit.
Electronic-Tea-3691 | 15 hours ago
it's actually higher than 27% because they're not factoring in the 27% on the other side. basically what we're saying here is that some percentage of people do not think critically, whether that's because they're crazy or because they're misinformed or uninformed or indoctrinated or whatever. but those people exist on both sides in a two-party system. if we assume that it's roughly the same number, then you're getting ~25% on each side, ie roughly half the voters are in this category.
they're the sheep. it's that simple.
bigmouse | 13 hours ago
>if we assume that it's roughly the same number, then you're getting ~25% on each side, ie roughly half the voters are in this category.
I just wanna point out, that this is not how percentages work. If both sides have a crazy quotient of 25%, then the overall is still 25%. You cant just add them up.
ObeseVegetable | 15 hours ago
If you assume the parties are equal in their courting of the low information and/or crazies, sure.
-Fergalicious- | 14 hours ago
And thats the thing. They arent. One side specifically preys on misinformation, and the other sides voters have proven over and over again to be more informed
Mekisteus | 13 hours ago
> if we assume that it's roughly the same number
And if we assume my cat shits gold, then I don't have to go to work tomorrow.
-Fergalicious- | 14 hours ago
50% of people are below 100 IQ
cheekytikiroom | 18 hours ago
GWB sank because the economy plummeted: 2007 financial crises. If recession sets in, Trump goes below 20.
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
Unemployment rate just hit 4.8 percent. We ARE in a recession and companies are laying off left and right but the bootlicking media is too scared to report on it.
PhilosophyEasy71 | 12 hours ago
Ding ding ding
ITS NOT A RECESSION UNTIL WE SAY IT IS
Enjoy poverty, plebs
UncleSlug | 10 hours ago
Well a recession is 2+ consecutive quarters of negative gdp growth. Of course it ignores the distribution of any benefits of that gdp growth... So yeah just stop being poor /s
Abs01ut3 | 19 hours ago
The fact that he scores better than Bush boggles my mind.
MaggoVitakkaVicaro | 15 hours ago
Bush really set the stage for the politics of resentment which Trump rode in 2016. A lot of the dissatisfaction Trump spoke to was a result of errors by Bush.
Significant_Cup_238 | 18 hours ago
Dubya never truly had the support of the crazies. The Compassionate Conservative slogan rubbed them the wrong way. I suspect Trump's floor is a good bit higher then Dubyas.
dotcubed | 19 hours ago
With margin of error? Or is it just a scant 24%?
1 in 4 sounds about right. But 1/5 feels good.
Wealthy businessmen owners who are insulated from the reality of price sensitivity, labor stress, and if they will be bothered by ICE. It’s an awful state just a year in.
No_Body2428 | 14 hours ago
Those are the people that would rather be put in a concentration camp over voting for a liberal
Top-Change6607 | 16 hours ago
Yikes, didn’t know there are so many psychopaths in this society
Gr8WallofChinatown | 11 hours ago
Bush brought us to a dragged out war and crappy economy yet that’s not as bad as a legitimate pedophile who is starting wars and manufacturing an abysmal economy.
This is freaking crazy. We impeached a president for a blowjob. Watergate is like a minor violation compared to anything done in this administration.
didureaditv2 | 11 hours ago
I've already said something similar in another thread but it's so pertinent these days
They are the right wing authoritarians.
You are correct they almost never disagree with what authorities (to them) say.
You pretty much cannot get any lower than this.
Source book: The Authoritarians
Pedantichrist | 10 hours ago
Wait, folk like Trump more than Bush?
ill_be_huckleberry_1 | 19 hours ago
That number is likely actually around 18% people are waking up. Slowly and its not because of some newfound morality.
Its because hes destroyed rhe economy.
And dems need to get out ahead of this message that the economy has been thrashed so fully that it will take a decade if not a generation to rebuild that trust.
And we will still never regain our dominance.
Maga was used to create a new multipolar world.
Jesta23 | 12 hours ago
I love how you just pull a completely unrealistic number out and confidently proclaim it the true number.
AniNgAnnoys | 11 hours ago
I love how you just year others down without adding to the conversation and then pretend you are the smart one.
EthanielRain | 9 hours ago
They're right, though. The general point may be true but the specific #'s were ass-pulled
AniNgAnnoys | 9 hours ago
Ok, then they can use their words to make an alternate argument.
ill_be_huckleberry_1 | 7 hours ago
The person I responded to used conjecture to describe what he thought his floor of suppprt was.
I responded with my thoughts.
I wasnt writting a dissertation. I was providing my thoughts.
Organic_Witness345 | 19 hours ago
Dare I say it, but Trump seems to be slowly but surely edging toward a point of statistical no return in the polls. Over the past two weeks, negative-Trump news has far outweighed pro-Trump news in virtually every category: the economy, immigration, international relations, domestic politics, the Epstein files, even the culture war BS conservatives revel in (e.g., Bad Bunny v. Kid Rock). Trump and his goons are getting absolutely bodied right now. Carney’s speech, Osoff’s speech, Tulsi Gabbard randomly showing up to plunder voter rolls in GA, Tulsi Gabbard keeping a whistleblower complaint in her desk for a year, Bovino getting canned and kicked out of a Vegas bar, Elon being summoned to court by a federal judge to account for his DOGE shenanigans, Aileen Canon under pressure to release Jack Smith’s investigative findings into Trump’s attempt to overturn the election, Massie and Khanna linking arms and releasing actual Epstein file names and confirming that it’s just the tip of the iceberg.
This is the first time I’ve said this during this entire Trump term, but it’s starting to feel like the momentum really is shifting.
chronax | 17 hours ago
Sadly, I disagree. If you watch OAN / NewsMax / Fox, everything is absolutely golden right now. Trump is getting rid of woke in schools, getting men out of women's sports and restrooms, and money is pouring in from foreign investments. He's hunting down all the fraudsters that stole his supporters' tax dollars in Minnesota and playing 4D chess with all of his foreign affairs dealings.
That's the narrative ~40% of the country is consuming, along with highly curated and edited footage to show trans people, immigrants and democrats as domestic terrorists.
He's saving America from the horrors of the woke left and bringing back common sense.
And of course, this is all being propagated through a Kremlin backed network of YouTubers too.
Gavage0 | 13 hours ago
I agree with both of you. The thing is, when I'm talking momentum, or cultural shift, I see it it more through the lens of broader american culture, and "normal" non political people. For the first time in ten years, it's no longer based to like Trump. It's not cool to be a republican. People like andrew schulz, and many of the media ass hats see it too, and are now apologizing, and reversing their opinions on everything. Young support has FALLEN OFF A CLIFF. I can easily see this one myself without all the statistics that have come out recently. The vibes, and cultural fabric of the county IS changing, most people can see it.
Now at the same time, his bottom 30% or so aren't going anywhere. This was already factored in YEARS ago in left wing spaces. There's absolutely change in the right wing space though. I live in a red state within a whole red region, and I can see the difference now compared to just months ago. Does this mean people are no longer watching right wing media? No. Does this mean they're becoming left wing? No. Does this mean these people no longer believe all the rhetoric pushed on them for years now? No. But, you know what IS happening? For the first time in TEN FUCKING YEARS, most people around me are FINALLY shutting the fuck up about politics, and trump. They know how bad he's doing. A lot of them would still say they're a trump supporter on paper, but they're ashamed, distancing themselves, and being real quiet IRL. If you take this group of people out of the equation, Trump is closer to 20%. It seems like it would be lower than that, but a good chunk of these people aren't even in the original 35%, they already "left". Again, they are still very right wing.... that's gonna take a lot of effort to fix. So much propaganda, and damage had happened in the last decade.
ThePirateKing01 | 18 hours ago
Dark Woke is back baby
7daykatie | 10 hours ago
> Elon
The French raided XTwitter and the UK is opening some kind of investigation into Grok.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3ex92557jo
Poopyheadbuttsex | 20 hours ago
TBH didn’t thnk it’d dip this low either. If it hits under 30%, bro, I might actually be impressed lol.
infowars_1 | 21 hours ago
I’m a 6 time Trump voter and am totally appalled at the direction our country and economy is going. We are capable of changing our minds
Im_tracer_bullet | 20 hours ago
The only reason the country is headed in its current direction is because Trump voters couldn't learn the obvious lessons at any point along the line.
Not at the indictments, the convictions, the assault on the Capitol, the impeachments, or any other one of the literally innumerable transgressions, or anti-american actions he's engaged in.
Why would you be surprised if normal people don't think there's anything that could change a Trump supporter's 'mind'?
gaetanzo | 19 hours ago
Hey, good on you for changing your mind and admitting it. I appreciate you.
ICLazeru | 19 hours ago
It's good that you can change your mind, just wish you had done it before giving him this term that he's using to recklessly squander America's biggest advantages.
I get it if you aren't excited by democrats, they have this amazing power to somehow miss slam dunks.
But it would be really great not to fall for the most openly corrupt candidate available next time around.
In fact, maybe consider championing election reform. The two parties have way too much power and influence over who even gets on the ballot. Take big money out of the equation and make them run in fair, open elections and they'll have to do better to win instead of this race to the bottom we find ourselves in now.
hiS_oWn | 20 hours ago
Six times?
FlyingBishop | 20 hours ago
primary + general x 3 elections I guess.
Affectionate_Oven_77 | 16 hours ago
or sarcasm.
infowars_1 | 20 hours ago
Yes, regrettably. Also due to my age, the only presidential candidate I’ve ever voted for
Jaxcat_21 | 20 hours ago
Out of curiosity, as it sounds like you may be on the younger side of the voting spectrum, what attracted you to vote for him versus the other candidates? Also, is it just the economy now that is changing your mind?
Gimme_The_Loot | 20 hours ago
What's wild is this person could actually be as old as 30, which is young yes but not that young
infowars_1 | 19 hours ago
lol exactly Trump’s been around since 2016 primaries now, a decade of our lives
TheInevitableLuigi | 16 hours ago
>what attracted you to vote for him versus the other candidates?
Their username might have something to do with it.
munkmunk49 | 18 hours ago
Really glad you have seen the light!
LarrySupertramp | 20 hours ago
And I’m seeing it happen! Really happy that I was wrong about my past theories!
4Looper | 20 hours ago
You're appalled that he did exactly what he said he would do? How did you even find your way onto this website? I imagine it's hard to navigate the internet when you are both blind and deaf.
RhinoRoundhouse | 19 hours ago
Was there a specific issue that made you change your mind? What was it that made you question the Trump admin? If you don't mind me asking.
infowars_1 | 19 hours ago
Trump blowing out the debt, inflation, and deficits to historic levels, and then gas lighting us on Truth social saying affordability crisis is a hoax. I was off the trump train in 2024 but he won my vote in the end thanks to Elon and RFK being on board. Now I’m politically homeless but I know that republicans aren’t the answer.
Specific bad moments recently was proposing 50 year mortgages, trying to influence the Fed rate decisions, threatening Greenland, and proposing sending money directly to HSA instead of proposing any actual health insurance plan.
Skiing7654 | 17 hours ago
If you admit that Republicans aren’t the answer, why do you say you’re politically homeless?
Is there something specifically which would prevent you from aligning yourself with the Democrats?
Do you feel like they would ultimately be worse long term than the past three elections you’ve been a part of?
cherryberry0611 | 18 hours ago
And what’s your opinion about ICE, all the arrests, and the killing of people? Genuinely curious.
Mekisteus | 13 hours ago
Well, he was perfectly fine with the racism and lawlessness during Trump's first term. He just doesn't like experiencing a bad economy right now. So my guess is he doesn't give a flying fuck about other people.
infowars_1 | 6 hours ago
It’s nuanced. We need to enforce immigration laws and ICE is doing an important job. But I don’t agree with deporting good, contributing people. And definitely don’t like the recent shooting incidents
Skiing7654 | 5 hours ago
Given that, do you have any thoughts to my question as to why, specifically, you don’t think you’ll find a home in the Democratic Party?
infowars_1 | 3 hours ago
Idk I’ll consider each candidate now on their record and platform, but not choose one party and vote straight ticket like I used to
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
Wait...6? You're joking, right?
thegrumpycrumpet | 10 hours ago
My guess is he voted for him in the primaries as well
PeachScary413 | 15 hours ago
6 times? Tell me you are highly regarded without telling me jfc 💀🤌
johndoe201401 | 16 hours ago
People dies of old age everyday though
Throwawayrip1123 | 12 hours ago
>If it drops under 30%, I will be shocked and regain a little faith in humanity.
I'm gonna lose faith either way. If it drops now, it's basically because the consequences that were logical and known for a very long time finally bit them in the ass. And because it now hurt them, they will react.
Selfish fucks with no empathy.
Vennomite | 12 hours ago
What was his die hard share from the 2016 primaries? Thats probably the "baseline" for what we can best guess
Persea_americana | 20 hours ago
The Fox News watchers who are being distracted from their own grocery bills by jingling keys. The non-political types that don’t follow the news about trade and the economy and still think china pays the tariffs. But even Fox News is struggling to spin this much longer, hence the continued decline in ratings. You can only pretend for so long, and at this point we are in a recession, if not depression. Why else refuse to publish the numbers like this administration has? But they can’t hide it, people are feeling it in the wallet and that’s hard to ignore for long.
ScoffersGonnaScoff | 20 hours ago
Truly. Fascism is only as strong as its propaganda. By all definitions it’s fascism. I didn’t wanna use the word, but here we are and here we have been.
No consequences, no accountability, the constitution is truly only a piece of paper and its purpose is being eroded.
MAGA aren’t free trade, family values, etc etc conservatives/republicans they are an artifact created by (mainly) FOX.
RimantasL | 21 hours ago
bro.. lot of that 34% isn’t “enjying” anything. It’s tribal loyalty, sunk-cost thinking, and people who feel like their side is wining culturaly even if their wallet isn’t. For some, vibes > outcomes.
Softestwebsiteintown | 18 hours ago
Key and Peele did a sketch where an old man was recovering from a major surgery and the doctor (Key) was debriefing him. He explained that the surgery was paid for via Obamacare, so the man immediately started trying to undo the surgery. It’s hyperbolic, but I do believe a staggering number of them can’t bring themselves to ever express disapproval of the man.
AgileDrag1469 | 21 hours ago
I know a lot of ghouls and gremlins that base their entire existence on intentional cruelty. They also couldn’t discern a good economy from a bad economy if either bit them in the face. The only thing they truly care about is the perception that someone is suffering worse than they are, even if they are feeling some pain.
newprof18 | 20 hours ago
I’m sorry to hear you know so many of these types of people.
AgileDrag1469 | 20 hours ago
Sadly, they are everywhere. It’s part of why I think the country as we know it is permanently cooked. Even if the democrats take back both houses of Congress, you still have millions of people like this that will come clawing back in two years time. The same broken DNA of the country, the same one that nearly ripped it apart in the 1860s and then withheld its progress for nearly one hundred years before the 1960s is also the same one that will relentlessly bankrupt not only the economy, but also the soul of the United States. Buckle up, it will not be easy.
CliftonForce | 18 hours ago
And if the Democrats do get both houses, and then the nation is not totally Sunshine And Rainbows in 2028, then voters blame the Democrats and punish them by bringing the Republicans back....
humdinger44 | 21 hours ago
Pedophiles
Red hat or Trump Vance bumper sticker = pedophile
SquirtinMemeMouthPlz | 19 hours ago
Fucking EVERYWHERE.
Out of a team of 12 people that do IT and work with me I know for a fact that 3 of them are rabid Trump supporters and would probably gleefully read my obituary if ICE murdered me.
I bet there's another 2 that are the same but keep their mouths shut.
Edit: oh yeah. All white men ages 55 and up.
raouldukesaccomplice | 19 hours ago
My 70-year-old aunt keeps insisting that, "As long as my 401(k) is doing well, I'm happy."
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
But...it's not! It's fluctuating every time he says or does something stupid. Has she checked it recently?
raouldukesaccomplice | 17 hours ago
I don't bother trying to reason with her. I think she just goes off vibes and his deranged tweets insisting we have "the hottest economy" on the planet.
notamccallister | 16 hours ago
Unless she's day trading in her 401k, fluctuations are irrelevant. The S&P 500 is up ~14% in the year since Trump's January 2025 inauguration.
Infinite-Pomelo-7538 | 14 hours ago
Because USD is down 20% since then, lol
vibibiviv | 13 hours ago
Yeah because you currency turned to shit. The S&P is flat if you look at it in the Swiss perspective. There was no actual growth
rtxa | 15 hours ago
SP500 is up 15% in 1 year
I'm not saying it's not a stupid take, but let's not pretend sky isn't blue, just because Trump is president
vibibiviv | 13 hours ago
Impressive, very nice, now let's look at the strength of the dollar in comparison
Prize_Bar_5767 | 11 hours ago
The stock market is doing quite fine.
AntiauthoritarianSin | 19 hours ago
The most rabid maga I know lives completely on government assistance and has for decades. He's also in church every time the doors are open. Spends hours on FB making fun of "libs".
Trump could come burn his house down and he'd approve of it and say trump did a great job.
I think there are more people out there like this than we care to admit.
CliftonForce | 18 hours ago
There is a mindset of "I will pay any price, no matter how high, to avoid paying a small amount of taxes."
Similar here. There are folks who are so tribal and racist that they will bear any cost to "own the libs."
vahntitrio | 15 hours ago
These same people think every deduction on their paycheck is federal income tax, and then they also probably receive a large tax refund every year as well.
Ask the average MAGA hat wearer what the blended federal income tax rate is for a family of 4 making $100k. I'd be surprised if they stated a number less than quadruple the actual value.
CliftonForce | 7 hours ago
They also think "foregin aid" is the majority of the Federal budget.
I saw many gleefully rant about how their taxes would drop to nothing once the "freeloading immigrants" were kicked out.
thefoodiedentist | 21 hours ago
The racist and stupid ones who cheer ice as they and trump trample on the constitution.
BadmiralHarryKim | 20 hours ago
About a third of people are authoritarians and he's locked that part of the population down.
Acrobatic_Tailor478 | 19 hours ago
My relatives who are 90+ and watch Fox News all day
TurtleMOOO | 16 hours ago
You ever see a homeless dude doom scrolling the conservative sub while watching Fox News in a hospital bed?
I have
He also told our wound care team “the only reason you even get a paycheck is because people like me are here!” Like dude, you don’t have insurance.
He also bitched about “immigrant leeches”
Benchen70 | 16 hours ago
Some people do enjoy anal.
WhenTheLightHits30 | 20 hours ago
https://www.nytimes.com/1950/09/06/archives/hitler-social-aids-still-remain-popular-with-59-of-germans-us-study.html
A bit of history that we all seem to just act like never happened. Even post-WW2, there was huge support and belief in Hitler’s policies and for many Nazi programs. There is just always going to be a problem with people supporting awful shit and the monsters behind them, even after every opportunity to turn away from them and know better.
What is needed is for there to never be an end to the discourse and efforts by people who know better to move on and not be weighed down by fools.
devliegende | 19 hours ago
>The Germans recall what they term the "attractive" aspects of nazism, such as full employment, public works and vacations with some degree of nostalgia, the United States experts added. However, the Germans generally joined in condemning the odious features of nazism, such as the persecution of minorities, the concentration camps, aggressive war and genocide.
Sounds like people didn't support the awful shit
Tiny-Pomegranate7662 | 21 hours ago
I hate the guy but my net worth went from 390K at election to 640K today by cashing in on the weak dollar exploding my 100% international 401k portfolio
ScoffersGonnaScoff | 20 hours ago
That worked
NebulaGeek | 20 hours ago
bro, prbably just people holding stocks, crypto, or geting lucky on side hustles lol. The rest of us smh.
_Antinatalism_ | 20 hours ago
50% of 🇺🇸 is sadists and psychopaths.
Corgi_Koala | 18 hours ago
I'm guessing that those are people who will support him no matter what. I'd be surprised if the number of people who are thriving in this economy are above 1%.
Memphisrexjr | 20 hours ago
The ones getting some off the top. Just lining their pockets with more and more.
suffer_in_silence | 19 hours ago
The triple Trump forever Trumpers I had a cousin say he thinks the economy is better he’s a financial advisor at Edward Jones and a Trump bootlicker child of immigrants.
adidas198 | 19 hours ago
People are just loyal to Trump.
Stop_looking_at_it | 19 hours ago
How is it that high?
TristanTheRobloxian3 | 18 hours ago
they arent enjoying anything, theyre just deluded into thinking hes doing stuff
ShweatyPalmsh | 18 hours ago
I would assume the rich retired 65+ contingent who’s MA plan hasn’t been impacted or the persons situation was already shit before and their shit situation hasn’t changed in their eyes except Trump going after brown people which they view as an improvement.
Alert_Reindeer_6574 | 18 hours ago
They are in a cult and they don't have any idea what is going on because they bury their heads in Fox News' ass.
_0611 | 18 hours ago
Trump proved that no matter how bad you are, you always have at least a third of the US votes. You could literally be the devil himself, and about 35% of Americans would still vote for you.
School_North | 17 hours ago
My father is one unfortunately.
OutlandishnessBig527 | 17 hours ago
There are people who send their entire social security checks to provide televangelists with private jets. These are them, or them within the next 7years
mulabob | 17 hours ago
Probably the rich
Bwwoahhhhh | 17 hours ago
#BABY RAPERS
3scap3plan | 17 hours ago
There are many Americans that buy whatever slop product trump announces, like his shoes, watch, trump coin. I get the impression they aren't the sharpest tools in the box when it comes to understanding how the economy or money works.
kazamm | 17 hours ago
Nazis and the kkk. They never disappeared. They become your plumber, your high school coach and your ice.
Commercial-Co | 17 hours ago
Its maga. Thats the maga rate in america. 1 in 3 americans are shit heads. 1 in 3 americans give a shit. And 1 in 3 americans dont give a shit, thereby allowing the shit heads to stay in power.
Concurrency_Bugs | 17 hours ago
No shit. 1/3 americans are like "yeah this child raping pedo destroying our economy is definitely the guy for us"
NoBonus6969 | 16 hours ago
People in the South making 100k a year in low col areas who think they are millionaires living in a high col area in their mind
Tiny_Dare_5300 | 16 hours ago
People will continue to think everything is fine until they feel the pain personally. The world could be burning down around them but if their pockets are full they will say things are great. There are at least 34% of Americans who feel like that.
Interesting-Ad7426 | 16 hours ago
The love to hide behind and manipulate the 20 % error margin. So in reality it's probably closer to 14%.
escapedfromamerica | 16 hours ago
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." The Waco Kid, Blazing Saddles
No-Soup3344 | 16 hours ago
I know, who are these people man
TheAskewOne | 16 hours ago
1 in 5 Americans is functionally illiterate. 1 in 2 reads below 6th grade level. A significant part of society has zero idea of what’s happening around them.
dafunkmunk | 15 hours ago
sunk cost fallacy. These people have spent nearly the past decade making trump their entire identity. Facing the truth and admitting they were wrong would be a literal reality shattering event for them. They will literally die for trump before they turn on him. It's not an exaggeration when people say these maga idiots are in a cult
ErshinHavok | 15 hours ago
just anecdotal but I live with a MAGAt in their 60s and ALL they do all day every minute (literally) is listen to other people (podcasts, shows, whatever the fuck) talk about how amazing Trump is. I never hear them listening to the man himself or listening to any sort of counterpoints. it's 24/7 365 listening to other people say hes amazing. I imagine that's the 34%. people otherwise completely disengaged politically listening to weirdos suck on the boot all day. celebrity meatriders that are ride or die for Trump for ethereal reasons completely divorced from reality.
princesoceronte | 15 hours ago
Sheep.
SuperArppis | 15 hours ago
Idiots.
markb144 | 14 hours ago
My dumbass parents
ElundusCaw | 14 hours ago
As a European I have come to the realization that a third of Americans have no fucking idea what's going on.
They don't pay attention to politics, or the news, they probably don't even know who is currently president.
If you asked them they'd probably say Bush, Obama, or "I dunno".
They saw people kneeling at the super bowl a couple years back and we're most likely very confused.
NotsoNewtoGermany | 14 hours ago
You will notice, going all the way back to George Bush, the number will always be 33%. Always. One particularly horrible week for bush it was 29%. There is a mythical third of the country that will ride and die any crazy train from a republican government. That is the republican base.
Oregon-Pilot | 14 hours ago
That is how fucking stupid 1/3 of Americans are.
Desert-Noir | 13 hours ago
“110 Million Americans are thrilled with President Trump’s handling of the economy”
r/conservative (probably)
MrHeavySilence | 13 hours ago
America is still huge. 9.8 million square kilometers, nearly the landmass of Europe. There are lots of rural people who can’t immediately feel the impact of his policies
Nitimur__In__Vetitum | 13 hours ago
Take a look at how cults work…
PhilosophyEasy71 | 13 hours ago
You know them when you run into them. Angry, hateful, toxic people. Especially seniors. They don't laugh, they're rarely smile. They use racist words, deeply hate lgbtq, and drive like complete psychopaths. They are a cancer in American society
maybethen77 | 12 hours ago
A larger percentage of American citizens than you'd think have the reading proficiency of 8th grade so there's your cause.
Salty-Plantain-4299 | 12 hours ago
About 5% of them are Ultra Rich wealthy fucks who are really well invested and actually making a killing off of this corruption.
The rest are brainwashed moron cult members who believe that this billionaire is on their side and nothing that you can show them or say will ever change their mind.
Agent-Blasto-007 | 12 hours ago
"These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. And I can't change their mind. I won't change my mind, 'cause I don't have to. 'Cause I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change."
Aleashed | 11 hours ago
They are waiting for his multiple promised checks…
Where are MY checks?
Prize_Bar_5767 | 11 hours ago
Come off the high horse.
These are Regular people like your family, neighbours and friends who voted for trump.
A vast majority of Americans are not good people. They are extra greedy, who would be fine seeing the government wanting to invade Greenland and Canada, and think trump is a genius.
psrandom | 10 hours ago
>These are Regular people like your family, neighbours and friends who voted for trump.
No cause I'm not American
Least_Skirt4575 | 11 hours ago
They can't be smoking beef, it's 6.69-9$ a pound now.
slartibartfast64 | 11 hours ago
A large percentage of this small percentage will support Trump's economic policies even though those policies are bad for them, simply because they are incurious cult members who will always choose the "Trump good, non-Trump bad" option in any of these surveys.
SyntaxError_1024 | 11 hours ago
Both enjoying and couldn’t care less.
metengrinwi | 10 hours ago
If you’re retired and don’t need any kind of job, your stock investments are fine and your pension checks are coming as normal. Sure, certain manufactured goods are expensive, but if you’re at a point where you’ve bought everything you need, it doesn’t matter that much.
Freud-Network | 10 hours ago
It has to be the same group of people who think Bad Bunny is a foreigner and Americans should be killed for protesting ICE.
GerbGalerb | 10 hours ago
You dont get it.
Ill explain since my parents are some of these 34%.
They do not care. They get all their news from Fox. They do not trust any other media, and are legacy racists.
Unless trump personally came, violently attacked my parents himself, they are utterly incapable of saying they made the wrong decision.
Every major piece of news this year from Trump is something they can spit. Protesters shouldnt have protested so they deserved to die. Meanwhile they reprimanded me for laughing about kirks death.
I regularly remind them that I am half Puerto rican, along with my brother, and that this shit really worries us. We're being overdramatic, we're not real Puerto ricans because i look white, and my brother is a light skinned PR too.
I remember what my mother said when Obama ran 16 years ago, and I have absolutely 0 doubt she feels the exact same way. "N------ cant run his own home N---- cant run the country."
The worst part about all of it being that you CANNOT discuss it with my mother. She will start screaming about how she doesnt wanna talk politics, while she actively supports a pedophile rapist because when she was a kid her dad sold her to some black guys around the hood. But its ok for trump cuz hes white:)
This bitch had the kids playing white America by Eminem as when the poor folks at rent a center came to pick up her couch and tv she didn't pay for
You want the truth? These 34% are some of the ugliest, most narcissistic scum on the planet
They actually believe all the epstein files have been released, trump has never been mentioned once, and bill clinton was the actual mastermind
I am not exaggerating when I say this planet will be a better place with both of them dead.
jjjbabajan | 10 hours ago
It’s gone on so long that the people left are pedophiles too poor to visit an island. They don’t see what the big deal is because they would victimize kids as soon as they could afford it, too. We’re surrounded by creeps, it’s about one in three.
RadioName | 18 hours ago
It's not even 34%, these polls are always small samples and VERY easy to skew depending on where and who you sample.
EconomistWithaD | 21 hours ago
Labor market is meh. Inflation (especially in food) is running hotter than normal. The king of negative supply shocks is essentially taxing Americans via tariffs, immigration policies, and trade. Manufacturing ain’t returning.
We’re witnessing, in real time, the destruction of our reputation, which underpins our economic system.
Yeah, stock market appreciation has been nice for those of us who recognize the benefits of saving, but even a large fraction of us think this benefit is massively outweighed by the costs previously.
Edit: the average MAGA is poor and stupid, so they certainly aren’t benefitting; being in a cult, however, means they will grovel to Dementia Donny. That said, the only ones that have to feel good are those with the capital to bribe influence.
joepez | 21 hours ago
He'll go online and rant at 1AM, saying the polls lie and everything is great. His cabinet/staff won't say anything beyond vague, supportive statements. The media will do that thing of stating everything going on but NOT calling out the Trump admin for creating this mess.
Vaperwear | 20 hours ago
The worst thing about the Cheeto Pedo is that despite people telling him that the Emperor wears no clothes is the insistence that these people are lying, losers, fake news, etc.
za72 | 18 hours ago
the 34% are mostly ignorant and in bliss... time will tell
Motor_Ad_3159 | 21 hours ago
Yeah the destruction of our reputation is the worst part. The rest of world now knows they can’t trust our country anymore. A large portion of the US is too ignorant to see just how dangerous this charismatic nepo baby really was and now he in control of the most dangerous country in the world, a country which used to be looked up to, to a degree.
ashleyjoyce00 | 20 hours ago
It’s nuts bro. Whole imge of the country just tanked lmao. Most people don’t even see it smh.
maybethen77 | 12 hours ago
An evil man will burn his country to the ground just to rule over the ashes.
hoowins | 21 hours ago
And stock market gains countered largely by falling dollar.
TheSquireJons | 20 hours ago
>Yeah, stock market appreciation has been nice for those of us who recognize the benefits of saving, but even a large fraction of us think this benefit is massively outweighed by the costs previously.
But even the US stock market has gotten crushed this year by basically every other developed nation this year.
EconomistWithaD | 20 hours ago
Yes. I would bet, however, that most people have some foreign stock market exposure.
thefoodiedentist | 21 hours ago
Give it a year and unemployment number will be like 6%.
EconomistWithaD | 21 hours ago
Would 6% be bad?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE
thefoodiedentist | 21 hours ago
Yes. Recession can happen.
EconomistWithaD | 21 hours ago
6% isn’t indicative of a recession, please look at FRED.
thefoodiedentist | 21 hours ago
I said can. Do you not understand why ur chart marked recessions? They have correlation.
EconomistWithaD | 21 hours ago
Recessions can happen with 4% inflation. They can happen with 10%.
So, either your choice of 6% was nonsensical, or your second point is more accurate; higher unemployment may be a recession. Because there is not a strong, positive correlation between 6% unemployment and a recession.
thefoodiedentist | 21 hours ago
Its 4.4 now. I was just giving a realistic number a yr from now. Even trump cant get higher than that i think. Why do i have to explain all this?
EconomistWithaD | 20 hours ago
Don’t get pissy because your choice of a specific number isn’t indicative of a recession. And MAY not necessarily be a bad thing, depending on the composition of the unemployment. That level of specificity is more harmful than helpful, because there is rarely a numerical threshold.
Next time, simply point out that non-frictional unemployment is likely to rise.
Signed, an economist.
thefoodiedentist | 20 hours ago
Read the comment thread and see that i nvr said unemployment numbers equate recession. Either way, recession is coming and it will be caused by trumps policies.
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
To put it in perspective, 6% is much higher than what it was during the 2009 recession. We are at 2009 recession unemployment right NOW but no one in the media is allowed to talk about it.
EconomistWithaD | 17 hours ago
different natural rates of unemployment.
AniNgAnnoys | 11 hours ago
Revised job numbers.come out today. JPow already hinted it is bad.
cachurch2 | 20 hours ago
I'll tell you who: it's retired people who are benefitting off their social security and 401Ks.
Now when the market takes a dump he'll lose even more of them but for now he's holding on to them.
ChidoChidoChon | 18 hours ago
Portland Oregon construction is getting SLOW i know lots of framers, drywallers, plumbers out of work, and electrician told me the IBEW(electricians union) has an out of work list of almost 1000. But everyone’s saying, it will get better soon. Hopefully.
-Fergalicious- | 13 hours ago
Look my wife is an anesthesiologist and part of a group that constantly adjusts her salary based on cost of living. Its gone up 3 times since trump was has been in office for nearly a 30% increase.
I say this because this is a group of people that as a group refuse to be paid less over time for their job, which is absolutely critical.
I think its a very fair assessment of what we're seeing as far as how much things have increased in cost.
MobiusNaked | 13 hours ago
Globally he has created resistance in buying an American product or service. Before people would just buy US without mental friction. Now people are actively rewiring their supply chains away from the US. This takes time but will happen. This week alone you have Macron talking about US dollar hegemony and China is pushing the Yuan as an alternative reserve currency- they are far off that but the fact it’s even considered is signalling a change.
AniNgAnnoys | 11 hours ago
Let's see how the market does today with the revised job numbers.
Logical-Joke-6249 | 19 hours ago
A weakening labor market is how you fight inflation. Our reputation is improving since we’re not run by a weak president and admin anymore. We’re in charge.
luisantonio197 | 19 hours ago
Lol, yeah keep telling yourself that bud
GodsPenisHasGravity | 17 hours ago
He's weak af. He's literally shitting his pants
movzx | 16 hours ago
Reputation so good that companies are building trade agreements with other economies, refusing to partner with us on initiatives, preemptively protesting our plans, reducing their imports from us, reducing their tourism travel to us, building strategic military alliances without us, withholding operational intel from us, divesting their technology stacks from us...
Logical-Joke-6249 | 10 hours ago
Send me some sources on that laundry list of BS
wyle_e2 | 20 hours ago
How is his economic approval rating 34% and his overall approval rating is 40%?! The economy is supposed to be his thing! Do Americans think calling Canada the 51st State and threatening to take over Greenland is good foreign policy? His work with ICE is a DISASTER. The Epstein files are right there!
How is his economic approval lower than his overall approval?!
Rad131447 | 19 hours ago
6% know he's crap for the economy and still approve? Uber racists I guess?
launchcode_1234 | 16 hours ago
A significant portion of Americans are religious freaks and think the Democratic Party is satanic and therefore will support the GOP no matter how badly they fuck things up
NotEveryoneIsSpecial | 18 hours ago
> Do Americans think calling Canada the 51st State and threatening to take over Greenland is good foreign policy?
The die-hard cult ghouls do, yes.
> His work with ICE is a DISASTER.
Not if you are a hateful monster.
lab-gone-wrong | 14 hours ago
I live in CA, voted Harris and am unhappy that basically everything has unfolded as predicted
I also got lower taxes. There's a lot of high income folks who literally don't care about anything else. They're happy, I guess.
Likewise poor folks who think they got lower taxes. They're wrong but they're happy about it.
harrisonisdead | 14 hours ago
His overall approval in this particular survey is 37%. His issue-based approval ratings range from 31%-35%, with one exception: immigration (40%). Meaning there are a handful of people who disapprove of his economic handling across the board (taxes, inflation, spending) but support him because they still somehow believe in the illusion that he has good immigration policy.
I suppose economic issues are things you feel directly and are thus hard to ignore, whereas you can still be Fox News propagandized over more abstract issues that you're only being told affect you.
Ok_Strain_1624 | 19 hours ago
At this point I'm convinced 33-34% of Americans would write positive reviews of a button that blows up the entire planet after we pressed it.
SnukeInRSniz | 17 hours ago
You could show every American a video of Trump raping a 10 year old girl and murdering a newborn baby and there would still be 30% of them who support Trump no matter what. A solid third of this country is so far gone they aren't worth saving.
battlepi | 12 hours ago
That video probably exists.
JonathanOatWhale | 19 hours ago
Probably only the white Christians.
HnNaldoR | 15 hours ago
Let's not say that.. That's partially what got us into this shit. We took the black, Hispanic, Asian vote for granted and turns out. Some of them were racist fuckers as well
Superguy766 | 14 hours ago
Majority of Latino men voted for that clown.
Dazzling-Jaguar-4674 | 21 hours ago
I do not know how Trump sees the US economy in "good shape", then goes ahead and praises the GPD "growth".
His tariffs increased the cost of living. Then he always supports high income Americans more than those who settle in low income areas. The Trump administration loves to pick and choose who it wants to benefit, and not in a good manner.
Upper_Author2105 | 20 hours ago
Because it is great for him personally and that is all that matters.
Sleepybystander | 19 hours ago
Remember that he hates losers, probably kick them while they are down.
He is never going to help those who are downtrodden while enjoys going to wild party with the elites.
WCland | 18 hours ago
Even more so, Trump implemented tariffs due to a supposed economic emergency, yet at the same time he keeps saying our economy is the hottest in the world.
KnownMonk | 17 hours ago
If Wero, the EU alternative to Visa and Mastercard gains traction it could be financially devastating for the American payment systems. It would also mark a real turning point in how EU lost its faith in the US market.
MobiusNaked | 13 hours ago
Yep. Every transaction in Europe via a card pays fees to the US. People are aware of this now and resent it. Also corporations that funnel tax to Ireland or direct to the US - nope, not acceptable. Plus Starbucks is terrible coffee and food anyhow.
battlepi | 12 hours ago
He's not in prison for raping all those little girls, so that's a positive to him.
Rad131447 | 19 hours ago
The man literally said he wants houses to be more expensive. He wants you to never afford be able to afford a home. 34% of y'all are dumb shits if you are okay with that.
jcooli09 | 20 hours ago
That is far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far too high.
Did I make the minimum?
Pretend_Guava_1730 | 17 hours ago
Who the fuck is this 34% and what do they do for a living? Among other things like the current police state being inflicted upon us, inflation and prices are ridiculous, the January job numbers were atrocious, and the unemployment rate is at its highest since the recession of 2009. So if we were judging based purely on the economy, he should be at 0 percent. He hasn't done a goddamn thing to acknowledge it or fix it. I really want to know what alternate reality these people are living in where their job isn't in jeopardy and their grocery bills haven't gone up, and what color the sky is in that world.
AwkwardTickler | 21 hours ago
It will be interesting to see the actual bottoming out of the approval rating, if we somehow ahead access to perfect information, when the true hardships really kick into full gear. With the government Deleting The CIA World Factbook I have a bad feeling Access the information is going to be a luxury for a very few In the years that come
cybercuzco | 20 hours ago
34% is actually a record low.
wyle_e2 | 20 hours ago
Record low so far......
TristanTheRobloxian3 | 18 hours ago
34 is a record low and i expect the true limit to be between 30 and 32% at the rate we are going
PostModernPost | 17 hours ago
I dont think it will go much lower. Anyone still in his camp are ride or die MAGATs and will believe anything and everything his camp puts out.
NatashOverWorld | 19 hours ago
So roughly one third of americans are either accepting of pedophilia and being puppeted by the Russians, or hate queer and PoCs so much they don't care.
What a fucking horrible time to be alive.
TristanTheRobloxian3 | 18 hours ago
its def cus they dont even know about the pedophilia cus they probably watch fox news or something
brando29999 | 16 hours ago
My company is estimated to pay 9million of our ~80million revenue in tariffs because the steel we use isn’t profitable to make in America the 300 employees we have are losing out on 9million in profit sharing/company evaluation super tired of winning and my moron coworkers will still continue to wear their trump2028 shirts
ThePheebs | 17 hours ago
People that already own a house and have a lot of money are the only ones doing OK right now. The job market is an absolute shambles, everything's getting more expensive, housing is a wet dream and people are starting to feel the pinch everywhere. Once AI goes downhill, the bubble pops and we're all in an instant recession.
Billionaires will buy low when the economy tanks and buy up what's left in our lives that can be monetized.
RalekBasa | 17 hours ago
Honestly looking for an answer. Who are these 34% and what are they in approval for? The corporate tax cuts or anti-environmentalism pro-business moves? Do they actually believe his rants about the best economy?
DavidlikesPeace | 16 hours ago
Finally finally finally. But more!
Maga popularity needs to collapse farther, until fascism becomes a true lodestone that breaks these people. They have abandoned the working class, hurt immigrants, hurt Ukraine, threatened Canada of all people, started a random war or two, and created a masked paramilitary. This cannot be considered normal.
OrlandoFatty | 15 hours ago
Forget approval ratings for anything. how has the calls for him to resign not been louder? He’s the most mentioned person in the Epstein files. He’s deflecting so hard even his base is struggling to run cover for him. His brand is toxic because he’s a known rapist.
Tokyo-MontanaExpress | 11 hours ago
The ~~Epstein~~ TRUMP Files
LtCmdrData | 14 hours ago
To put things into perspective:
Trump has core support who does not budge easily. Only thing that matters is how supporting him affects politicians in areas needed to win the house and the senate. About the only thing that sways elections is the economy (or perception of it).
Fxon | 13 hours ago
34% approve??? Who???
LtCmdrData | 13 hours ago
Conservatives, Rebublicans, Lean Rebublican's. non college educated, working class people. Mostly white. White evangelicals 58%, white catholic 46%. White protestant, not evangelical 33%. About a quarter of Americans today (27%) say they support all or most of Trump’s policies and plans... Just look Pew Research for answers.
69% support in Wyoming
68% support in West Virginia. ...
50% support in Texas
....
38% support in New York.
36% support n California.
26% support in Vermont.
In no state is his support below 25%
Chewlies-gum | 17 hours ago
The problem is authoritarian leaders don't particularly worry about low poll numbers. In Trump's case he is nearly 80 year old. His end game is protect himself from the justice system. He has a clear grasp on the Presidency, a Congress that will not cross him out of support or fear, and a Supreme Court that isn't going interfere with what it sees are politics while pursuing its ideological program. I just don't know how much poll numbers really matter given the structural advantages for the Republicans in the moment, and how far people working for Trump will go. For all practical purposes, he controls the guns. You're looking at a year of largely dictatorial rule followed by we know not what.
My problem as a social science trained researcher is if I saw all this in another country that is sliding into a form of Constitutional Authoritarianism so rapidly, I am not sure what the counterweight is without sustained mass demonstrations. The free press is supposed to provide a counterweight, but something we learned is Trump was very profitable for corporate media in his first term, and they kind of liked it. What remains of the corporate media is largely cowed to keep the money rolling for their parent corporations in a kind of crony kleptocracy, so I would not expect much help in that direction.
The Trump Administration's goal right now is to run the economy hot, capture the Fed, and pour tax rebates from the BBB into people's pockets to let them know how good Trump is for them into the mid-terms. It would not surprise me to see them succeed in keeping all the power into 2028.
Americans seems largely apathetic about Trump. People may complain about the weather, but there's nothing they are going to do about it. Of course, bolts of lightning happen.
SmartQuokka | 11 hours ago
34% are willing to destroy themselves for hate.
As the bills continue to rise we will see how many more peel off.
Bear in mind any who defect would be happy to sign up again if they get only slightly less personal harm.
true-fuckass | 12 hours ago
His core base is something like 34%, so this isn't surprising. Fwiw, those people will likely never say they disapprove of him, but I imagine behind the scenes they're a mix of too stupid to understand, don't actually know whats happening, and secretly disapprove but tribally approve