But their announcement seems to indicate a complete shift in process and methodology (not just presidential) and a permanent change. I am wondering if it is just coincidental.
When asked by The Hill if Gallup had received any feedback from the White House or anyone in the current administration before making the decision, the spokesperson said, “this is a strategic shift solely based on Gallup’s research goals and priorities.”
Effective polling challenges the ballots when you're cheating. This is why there isn't polling in places like Russia where it's all rigged. Putin even said Trump would need to repay him for certain help in getting reelected.
It’s extremely concerning just how severe the bootlicking is at the top level. These people are bending over and doing whatever trump says. Absolutely pathetic. Not a backbone to be found these days. People acquiescing to trump should be fkn ashamed of themselves
Yup. If two thirds of the country set the petty culture war bs aside and came together we could get the money out of politics and topple the corporate oligarchy running the country and rebalance power back to everyday people. Not instantly, but it’s absolutely doable. But these people at the top spend an insane amount of money shoving divisive culture war issues down the throats of the masses 24/7 to ensure every day people are divided down the middle and under the impression trans sports and stuff is the most pressing issue facing our country. As long as people are split down the middle and they get to define the middle as the current status quo, everyone will keep compromising for nothing to improve. To hand even more money and power over to the people with immense money and power already. Because they’re scared shitless over stuff that barely has any impact on their life and completely ignorant to the stuff that has a massive impact on their life. And either way the election goes those at the top win.
Alright rant over lol. Didn’t realize this was in a science sub til just now
These people latch onto MAGA because it think it makes them look strong, but in reality it just highlights how little it takes to win them over and ultimately makes them look weaker to anyone outside the cult.
I remember a mayor of a small town (tiny) put a big Trump-esque announcement of how he'll stand up to the No Kings Protests if they "get out of hand", as though he was going to call in a fucking military strike or the National Guard.
It was pathetic to see a leader just copy someone else because they think it makes them look tough, but in reality they just look like high schoolers copying the popular kid.
It's so weird. I remember press being assholes to both Bush and Obama. Like, that's just how it worked-journalism/news sources were both kinda critical of the president. You got slightly more leaning news on CNN and Fox News.
Like, what happened that every newspaper or news source just laid down, spread their legs, and gave up? Did a conservative donor really buy them ALL out?
I theorize that they were told to fake the numbers and when they pushed back, they were told that if they didn’t then they would lose some sort of funding that they rely on. By deciding not to measure presidential approval, I’m hoping this means they just chose not to concede, but also realize they wouldn’t have survived the damage. Idk, I’m really hoping it’s an act of preservation than boot licking.
The difference in this scenario is that they survive vs go down in flames trying to make a point when all of the people here who say they should fight it wouldn’t lift their wallet enough to support them ie: NPR. It’s easy to make these grand claims of “if I were them I would do xxx” until you’re in a position of finding some sort of compromise you can live with if your alternative is collapse.
Seems like it's become such a norm in business to shift with the economic winds that they do it now with little or no hesitation. When you've been lying for dollars for so long, you forget how to value truth.
The sole value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.
I haven't had much faith in Gallup polls since caller ID was invented. You can't get an accurate picture of public opinion if you're only surveying people who still pick up the phone when they see an unrecognized number.
On a side note, I grew up 3 hours from Gallup, New Mexico, and regularly passed through there on the way to visit relatives. And the Gallup Chamber of Commerce's commercial jingle "Gallup, NEEEW Mexico: the heart of the Indian Country," was ubiquitous on TV and radio when I was a kid. I was in college before I realized that Gallup polls were in no way associated with the city.
My God! Where are people’s consciences?! It makes my stomach sick that the one human being is fucking shit up all over the place all to placate the billionaires! Who have even money to go live on their private islands and leave the rest of us alone!
There’s a certain logic to this if they developed a better system. Bipartisanship has made coding of regular approval polling nonsensical. You have large numbers on both sides that always approve of their side and disapprove of the other side. A rating system that accounted for the electoral college, non-representative congress layout, and swing voters would be much more useful.
Damn. They just sent me an invite about a month ago, and I did a survey for them yesterday. I didn't know about this, of course, when they asked me for comments. I would have definitely had something to say about it!
Dominoes fall. Bowing to the polarization loop argument that approval ratings can be used to delegitimize leadership deprives the public of a non-partisan tool that reflects public sentiment on illegitimate leadership.
People, companies and countries need to stop bending over backwards for this fat sack. He has the memory of a goldfish and will quickly forget any beneficial thing you do for him anyway. Tell him to kick rocks and wait it out till 2028.
Let a Canadian company do your polls. Don't think it's as easy as my suggestion but put the wheels in motion. They can't the company here. They'll be turning off your internet next America. Just watch them.
Consider this: Trump's approval rating was pretty much just as low during his first term, and yet, the country not only elected him again but won him the popular vote as well!
This is the most level headed response and I had to scroll through a ton of anti trump/nazi comments to get to it. If people actually read the article posted, buried deep into the 5th paragraph, it says right in there it was purely a business decision and there was no communication with the white house.
sufferin_sassafras | 3 hours ago
Gee it’s a good thing that they didn’t elect a president who is too emotional like a woman would have been.
What a snowflake this guy is.
popeculture | 3 hours ago
Why is Gallup stopping though?
sufferin_sassafras | 3 hours ago
Because the administration is threatening them
digginghistoryup | 2 hours ago
If Gallup won’t do these polls, who else will or does?
aotus_trivirgatus | 2 hours ago
Ever hear of Rasmussen?
skeevemasterflex | 2 hours ago
Lover of the Russian queen?
sebmojo99 | 2 hours ago
they are cats that are really gone
OOBExperience | 2 hours ago
Rah Rah Radmussen!
carlnepa | 3 minutes ago
That was Rasputin. I believe Steven Miller fills that role, now.
digginghistoryup | 2 hours ago
No I have not. What can you tell me about them?
JimJam4603 | 2 hours ago
A right-wing stat-cooking outfit.
digginghistoryup | 2 hours ago
Oh dang. This sucks that quality polling is dying
JCole | 2 hours ago
Think Fox and Newsmax on steroids
digginghistoryup | 2 hours ago
Gross 🤢
aotus_trivirgatus | an hour ago
What can I tell you?
Among other things, that you can't spell "Rasmussen" without A, S, S, E, and S.
gathermewool | 2 hours ago
Sassy Rassy
darjeelingexpress | 2 hours ago
Here’s an aggregated list: Real Clear Polling updated regularly.
The_Pandalorian | an hour ago
RCP is a right-wing dogshit aggregator. They pretend Rasmussen and Trafalgar are real, gaming their aggregates to lean more Republican.
digginghistoryup | 2 hours ago
Thank you so much! This is great
Ntroepy | 2 hours ago
I’m sure Fox News will pick up the slack!
popeculture | 2 hours ago
That is certainly possible.
But their announcement seems to indicate a complete shift in process and methodology (not just presidential) and a permanent change. I am wondering if it is just coincidental.
sufferin_sassafras | 2 hours ago
Of course they are going to hang their hat on “we’re doing this to remain as apolitical as possible.”
But I wonder if this would be happening at all if his polling was favourable. My bet is not.
Ryzarony23 | an hour ago
The Washington Journal was nearly unanimous in Open Forum today… it’s really not going well for him, which is why he’s clamping down even harder.
PHK_JaySteel | 2 hours ago
Its not. I guarentee it.
alppu | an hour ago
They need a break to extend their software to handle negative numbers?
hkusp45css | 2 hours ago
When asked by The Hill if Gallup had received any feedback from the White House or anyone in the current administration before making the decision, the spokesperson said, “this is a strategic shift solely based on Gallup’s research goals and priorities.”
Superfluously-Superb | an hour ago
Sooo… not a no….
naftel | 2 hours ago
Because the Fuher’s numbers keep sinking and they don’t want to publish bad news for fear he will lash out (as he has at other media).
Tex-Rob | 4 minutes ago
Effective polling challenges the ballots when you're cheating. This is why there isn't polling in places like Russia where it's all rigged. Putin even said Trump would need to repay him for certain help in getting reelected.
grtyvr1 | 2 hours ago
If we stop attributing the deaths to COVD then the number of COVID deaths will go down.
MrFlags69 | 2 hours ago
As soon as he’s out of office…they will start again. Guaranteed.
last-dakotan47 | 3 hours ago
Bending the knee to the fuhrer ehh?
trailsman | an hour ago
The fuhrer and all his supporters are so fragile they can't even see something they disagree with.
And he finally actually achieved an actual record but doesn't want the measurement to continue.
2Throwscrewsatit | 3 hours ago
Bootlickers
A1sauc3d | 2 hours ago
It’s extremely concerning just how severe the bootlicking is at the top level. These people are bending over and doing whatever trump says. Absolutely pathetic. Not a backbone to be found these days. People acquiescing to trump should be fkn ashamed of themselves
BadmiralHarryKim | 2 hours ago
Gives you an idea of easy it would be to break them though if push ever came to shove.
A1sauc3d | 2 hours ago
Yup. If two thirds of the country set the petty culture war bs aside and came together we could get the money out of politics and topple the corporate oligarchy running the country and rebalance power back to everyday people. Not instantly, but it’s absolutely doable. But these people at the top spend an insane amount of money shoving divisive culture war issues down the throats of the masses 24/7 to ensure every day people are divided down the middle and under the impression trans sports and stuff is the most pressing issue facing our country. As long as people are split down the middle and they get to define the middle as the current status quo, everyone will keep compromising for nothing to improve. To hand even more money and power over to the people with immense money and power already. Because they’re scared shitless over stuff that barely has any impact on their life and completely ignorant to the stuff that has a massive impact on their life. And either way the election goes those at the top win.
Alright rant over lol. Didn’t realize this was in a science sub til just now
Garry_Heckscream69 | 2 hours ago
That's the part that gets me
These people latch onto MAGA because it think it makes them look strong, but in reality it just highlights how little it takes to win them over and ultimately makes them look weaker to anyone outside the cult.
I remember a mayor of a small town (tiny) put a big Trump-esque announcement of how he'll stand up to the No Kings Protests if they "get out of hand", as though he was going to call in a fucking military strike or the National Guard.
It was pathetic to see a leader just copy someone else because they think it makes them look tough, but in reality they just look like high schoolers copying the popular kid.
Princess_Slagathor | an hour ago
Dude, Andy Barr's latest commercial is so fucking pathetic it embarrassed me to watch it.
2Throwscrewsatit | 2 hours ago
Corporations are “people”: Sociopaths and psychopaths.
MidnightIAmMid | an hour ago
It's so weird. I remember press being assholes to both Bush and Obama. Like, that's just how it worked-journalism/news sources were both kinda critical of the president. You got slightly more leaning news on CNN and Fox News.
Like, what happened that every newspaper or news source just laid down, spread their legs, and gave up? Did a conservative donor really buy them ALL out?
LuckyDuckTheDuck | an hour ago
I theorize that they were told to fake the numbers and when they pushed back, they were told that if they didn’t then they would lose some sort of funding that they rely on. By deciding not to measure presidential approval, I’m hoping this means they just chose not to concede, but also realize they wouldn’t have survived the damage. Idk, I’m really hoping it’s an act of preservation than boot licking.
2Throwscrewsatit | an hour ago
What is the difference to fascists?
LuckyDuckTheDuck | an hour ago
The difference in this scenario is that they survive vs go down in flames trying to make a point when all of the people here who say they should fight it wouldn’t lift their wallet enough to support them ie: NPR. It’s easy to make these grand claims of “if I were them I would do xxx” until you’re in a position of finding some sort of compromise you can live with if your alternative is collapse.
Capy_3796 | 2 hours ago
Washington Post, CBS, Gallup … is really a shame to see these once venerable institutions sell themselves out to an impulsive, insane tyrant.
Fly_Rodder | 2 hours ago
with a very real shelf life. He ain't living forever.
OddPerformance | 2 hours ago
The party that's behind him will be around much longer. Undoing that is going to take a LOT of time and energy.
MothaFuknEngrishNerd | 17 minutes ago
Seems like it's become such a norm in business to shift with the economic winds that they do it now with little or no hesitation. When you've been lying for dollars for so long, you forget how to value truth.
Genoism_science | 3 hours ago
because orange baby rapist is mad?
Tballz9 | 3 hours ago
All because the current president is too emotionally fragile for approval ratings numbers he doesn't directly issue. Crazy.
skoalbrother | 2 hours ago
And his fans are crazy too
wonkeykong | 2 hours ago
Until a Democrat is voted in, whereupon the new headline will be: Gallup to begin measuring presidential approval after 3 year gap
otatop | 2 hours ago
We can only hope the gap is 3 years…
hpbrick | 37 minutes ago
Hoping for it to be a 9 month gap when Dems take over at mid-terms
Tazling | 2 hours ago
Gallup joins the hall of shame with the other quislings and collaborators.
Pepperidge Farm will remember them.
robotpepper | 2 hours ago
Wait til Pepperidge Farm changes Milanos to Millanias.
RazsterOxzine | 41 minutes ago
Ewww. Now that is where I draw the line... Everything else is ok.
Boson347 | 2 hours ago
It’s okay, I’ll step in and do it.
Here’s the approval rating so far: 1%
Source: my ass, an equally credible source as the DOJ
luke-juryous | 50 minutes ago
You forgot the negative sign
The_Erlenmeyer_Flask | 2 hours ago
My Gallup poll says that the majority of Americans believe Donald Trump is a pedophile with tiny fingers.
Yos13 | 2 hours ago
Pedophile elite class watching out for their own as usual.
blergrush1 | 3 hours ago
Nazi shitbags!
moljnir40 | 3 hours ago
Chicken shit
onlyacynicalman | 2 hours ago
Corruption, cowards, and corrupt cowards
Shido_Ohtori | 3 hours ago
The sole value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.
"Know your place" is their mantra.
badwolf1013 | 2 hours ago
I haven't had much faith in Gallup polls since caller ID was invented. You can't get an accurate picture of public opinion if you're only surveying people who still pick up the phone when they see an unrecognized number.
On a side note, I grew up 3 hours from Gallup, New Mexico, and regularly passed through there on the way to visit relatives. And the Gallup Chamber of Commerce's commercial jingle "Gallup, NEEEW Mexico: the heart of the Indian Country," was ubiquitous on TV and radio when I was a kid. I was in college before I realized that Gallup polls were in no way associated with the city.
whatadaytobealive | 2 hours ago
Wow, what did they get paid to shut that down?
Another thread of American democracy unravelling...
smudgitt | an hour ago
Hard to measure negative approval I assume
Hertje73 | 2 hours ago
88 dogwhistle?
DoublePostedBroski | an hour ago
>Trump’s Gallup approval rating as of last December was among the lowest the organization had found since it began taking the poll in the 1930s.
🤔
Uncle-Cake | an hour ago
Just like reducing Covid-19 infection rates by not testing for it.
Admirable-Deer-9038 | 54 minutes ago
My God! Where are people’s consciences?! It makes my stomach sick that the one human being is fucking shit up all over the place all to placate the billionaires! Who have even money to go live on their private islands and leave the rest of us alone!
Bumpy-road | 34 minutes ago
This is how democracy dies - in darkness and ignorance
Best-Statistician294 | 29 minutes ago
"I scored so high on the Gallup Polls that I broke the company" - Trump
Soulegion | 54 minutes ago
Of course. Can't complete the fascist takeover while still allowing accurate information about them to reach the public.
fricks_and_stones | 2 hours ago
There’s a certain logic to this if they developed a better system. Bipartisanship has made coding of regular approval polling nonsensical. You have large numbers on both sides that always approve of their side and disapprove of the other side. A rating system that accounted for the electoral college, non-representative congress layout, and swing voters would be much more useful.
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kikiacab | 3 hours ago
The one in Omaha?
Curleysound | an hour ago
Problem solved! /s
OohCunty | an hour ago
That bad, eh?
bevo_expat | an hour ago
We can just take numbers reported by the Ministry of Truth
Zilverox | 59 minutes ago
Underrated comment.
djeaux54 | 6 minutes ago
In unrelated news, Pam Bondi will not be investigating Gallup.
Zassssss | 2 hours ago
Guys, ease up on Gallup. Trump was threatening to increase tariffs on them if they didn’t stop reporting bad approval ratings.
Tegumentario | 2 hours ago
Calm down guys! You do NOT live under dictatorship! You're the GREATEST country and everyone envies you!
MaggoVitakkaVicaro | 11 minutes ago
And now we have the most widely approved president ever!
coosacat | 2 hours ago
Damn. They just sent me an invite about a month ago, and I did a survey for them yesterday. I didn't know about this, of course, when they asked me for comments. I would have definitely had something to say about it!
Disappointing.
Lefonn | an hour ago
I might be misinterpreting the purpose of this sub but what exactly is scientific about them doing this?
spish | an hour ago
Just like COVID: If you don't count cases, it doesn't exist!
nath1234 | an hour ago
Just to explain the technical reasons: maybe the field used to calculate this has gone beyond the minimum negative range of the number format. ;)
ceret309 | an hour ago
There's nothing left to measure. No reason to report a 0.1% rating.
BluntCity101 | an hour ago
Gee wonder why?? Is it cause his approval is in the shitter? And they bent the knee?? /S
Persificus | an hour ago
Dominoes fall. Bowing to the polarization loop argument that approval ratings can be used to delegitimize leadership deprives the public of a non-partisan tool that reflects public sentiment on illegitimate leadership.
Substantial-Use-1758 | an hour ago
OFFFFF COURSE they won’t 🤦♀️🤷♀️😞
SquiddyBB | an hour ago
That's got to be a dog whistle...
Impossible-Flight250 | an hour ago
People, companies and countries need to stop bending over backwards for this fat sack. He has the memory of a goldfish and will quickly forget any beneficial thing you do for him anyway. Tell him to kick rocks and wait it out till 2028.
Objective_Turtle_ | an hour ago
Word. So that means fDT overall average approval rating will be the lowest there ever was in the history of Gallup.. Is that right? lol cool
AlienInUnderpants | 56 minutes ago
So basically Gallup can no longer be trusted with data or truth.
Edit: also, Gallup should now be ostracized and excluded from any publications.
PopularFrontForCake | 56 minutes ago
It makes you wonder if they would have done this if the President was massively popular...
RoxyLA95 | 47 minutes ago
What is the reasoning?
TwoFlower68 | a minute ago
Trump scores too low
SueBeee | 46 minutes ago
All of this needs undoing as soon as the fucking guy is out of office. What a piece of trash.
DarkArmyLieutenant | 37 minutes ago
Well yeah, there's no number lower than zero so they're kind of pointless right now.
wandreef | 23 minutes ago
Let a Canadian company do your polls. Don't think it's as easy as my suggestion but put the wheels in motion. They can't the company here. They'll be turning off your internet next America. Just watch them.
RICoder72 | 15 minutes ago
So like no one read the article huh?
Joaaayknows | 11 minutes ago
I mean we all know why, but it’s not like this survey has mattered at ALL since 2016.
CitationNotNeeded | 2 hours ago
How relevant is approval rating, really?
Consider this: Trump's approval rating was pretty much just as low during his first term, and yet, the country not only elected him again but won him the popular vote as well!
AintNobodygotime13 | 2 hours ago
There were a lot of extenuating circumstances, x and Facebook, that helped with that
The power of social media with weak-minded people is dangerous
Buffalo48 | an hour ago
This is the most level headed response and I had to scroll through a ton of anti trump/nazi comments to get to it. If people actually read the article posted, buried deep into the 5th paragraph, it says right in there it was purely a business decision and there was no communication with the white house.
bs-martin | an hour ago
Cowards.