It's hard. Louisiana has actually been pretty proactive in pushing "managed retreat" for smaller coastal communities threatened by storms, rising water, and sinking land. The idea is to get people to move away from threatened areas before there's a crisis.
But New Orleans is vital to Louisiana's economy, and its position at the mouth of the Mississippi River makes it important for the whole country.
Shutting down New Orleans is not an option, and even moving a big chunk of the workforce out of the city would get tons of pushback.
Plus, the state of Louisiana just does not have the resources to do anything on the scale required here. It would require substantial help from the federal government. That kind of help is not likely to come from this administration.
Mike Johnson and his ilk loathe New Orleans and attempt to extract every bit possible while punishing the City for its lack of deference to Baton Rouge. I guarantee you Jeff Landry and Mike Johnson do not give one flying fuck about the citizens of New Orleans
>Plus, the state of Louisiana just does not have the resources to do anything on the scale required here.
Imagine that, instead of putting their heads in the sand to please the emperor and his billionaires, they did this in smaller increments over time. They could absolutely afford to do it.
After Katrina it was discussed that the river parishes and Baton Rouge be turned into the new New Orleans with the critical infrastructure relocated up river. Then the government reinvested in the area and that was that
Yes, but we can also do neither and then blame the Democrats for using their weather control machines, and at least a third of the country will believe it.
How do you relocate when you can't sell your home because its value is 0€ due to the flood risk? Unless they're offering free houses on higher ground, people have no choice
>How do you relocate when you can't sell your home because its value is 0€ due to the flood risk?
Easy. Spend the trillions of dollars we collect every year on improving the lives of regular people, instead of starting illegal wars and giving the superrich handouts disguised as "tax incentives."
A real government of the people would do something about it now rather than spending money bombing Iran. It's going to cost more the longer folks live there, and the higher real estate gets in other locations.
Instead, well to do developers target minorities with cheap homes on floodplains. The estate kids and country club are on the hills overlooking the river.
Job markets fucked though. I applied for 20 positions and got one interview. If the federal government pulled something like this off I’d start giving myself fellatio on Only Fans. As it stands the federal government can’t even properly staff its own agencies
What do other taxpayers get for the money spent? I’m drowning in debt over here, can’t afford to even visit New Orleans and I’ve been heavily subsidizing Louisiana my entire life (50% of their state budget comes from the federal government, and unlike some people, I actually pay my taxes).
In my lifetime, New Orleans flooded in 1995, then again during Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and we all helped them out when they stupidly decided to move back into the flood plains. Years later, their representatives voted against aid for the northeast after Hurricane Sandy, then had their hands out for more flood aid in 2016. How many times are we supposed to bail them out? Fuck that. How is this my responsibility?
Yes. The same billionaires and corporations that, because of citizens united (what a dumb fucking name, but it makes sense in that the poorly educated think it’s for them) have more political sway than they should in influencing our government.
What's happening now is when a hurricane hits an area like New Orleans, the feds are paying for the cost of replacement for these homes, and some of them are being rebuilt. Then we do the whole dance again. Paying people to leave now is the cheaper solution in the long term.
The taxpayers and our children’s future are the federal wallet. The government doesn’t have its own money. It’s our money, and they’re not spending it wisely.
This is exactly the point. The government should say, “no, we’re not paying for this. We are paying one time to move or rebuild in. Responsible way.”
To be fair. New Orleans is a historical and culturally/significant place, but some McMansion along a flooding river in whocaresville is more the target of my program.
This is why states like Louisiana rush to gerrymander even more. They want to keep govt not working for the people, and keep it working for investors and billionaire criminals.
But you can sell it. There is demand for it now and the next decade. But as a native-born New Orleanian (who got out) I can tell you the Inshallah attitude is pervasive. Just deny the obvious and God will fix it eventually. Something always works out.
I didn't write that you can sell it doe the inflated 2022 prices. But people are still buying. It is the absurd asking prices combined with HOI that is causing homes to sit empty
Responsible municipalities are looking at planned retreat, but it's extremely hard to buy back a neighborhood. It's expensive, and people think the environmental rational is just an excuse for a government land grab. So, what we're seeing happening now is the insurance agency kicking off the process by pulling coverage in vulnerable areas. One way or another, people are going to move.
People are leaving Arizona now and moving to places like Tennessee. And California. Everyone talks about these immigrants like they are COVID political movers but they are climate refugees also, really.
I mean, a lot of people there now are going to have to sell property in order to leave (or take a massive financial loss that very few could afford). If someone were to buy that property now knowing what the water situation is, they'd absolutely be an idiot.
How is getting water trucked in any different than getting oil or propane trucked in in cold climates?
Or getting food trucked like pretty much everywhere?
I think the way we (the western world at least) live is unsustainable and we should change and live more in harmony with the earth, but getting water trucked in doesn't seem any worse than any other irresponsible things we all do, including yourself likely (and if you are living in a fully sustainable way then major kudos!)
For many, how can they relocate when the government isn’t offering any assistance? Who is going to buy their homes that will be underwater soon?
I’m not disagreeing at all that they *should* relocate, but for folks who live paycheck to paycheck, it’s not hard to understand why they stay when their choice is between being voluntarily homeless now or an involuntarily homeless climate refugee later.
FEMA has programs where they buy houses of people in flood-prone areas. I don't know how well they are funded, particularly now, buy they do exist. Part of it is that people don't want to move away from the only place they know and away from the only people they know. But they can't move entire towns of people to the same different town, so they stay.
FEMA does not offer that to us in New Orleans, and frankly, anyone alive during Katrina has about as much trust for FEMA as for the Army Corps, which is to say none.
Right without government aid relocating out of a city isn't exactly easy. Like yeah ok maybe everybody who rents could theoretically leave, but what about the people who don't?? I'm not here to sux off the landlords, but litterally what are you supposed to do if you own one or more properties?? Hope some other fool will be willing to sink so you can swim??
A large chunk of the city cannot afford to relocate. Without aid, they're literally just fucked. We're talking people born and raised in the city, not transplants, who's families have lived there for generations.
The state government allows building in flood plains. And the state says the levys are fine. The fed is approached for disaster relief after all the bad decisions were made.
Nowadays though, yes, the fed wants every blue city to die
They weren’t before Katrina because bean counters didn’t listen to the engineers
Everyone wondered why the Los Angeles river is so wide and deep, until it filled up a few years ago
Because they built it the more expensive way that the engineers knew was required for hundred-year storms, not what the bean counters said we could afford
If they didn’t listen to the engineers in Los Angeles, many homes would’ve been washed away. Nobody has any clue because it was effective and they complain about all the concrete and how it should be turned to a green park lol
Incorrect. The Army Corps build shitty levees and a shipping canal they knew would bring floodwaters into the city and beyond in the event of a direct hit from a big storm. They knew.
The levees are built and managed by the Army Corps of Engineers, which is federal, and the state. It's complex.
And you have it exactly backwards. We got fucked in Katrina because the Army Corps a) built an unnecessary shipping channel against our protests that funneled water straight into the city, just like their studies said it would and b) built absurdly substandard levees and lied about their capacities. Then we goy blamed for asking for aid. We goddamn BEGGED them not to build the MRGO.
I know people have short memories, but really, Katrina was only 21 years ago and all of this was covered in great depth by the media.
The whole country is reliant on our shipping port, our refineries, etc. New Orleans becoming uninhabitable will not simply be a local issue.
FYI, the levees are better now. We've had direct hits from extremely powerful storms and been okay. Climate change will fuck us for sure, but look at the U.S. and ask yourself how many coastal cities will be sitting pretty in 70 years? Current predictions say not many.
I’ve been to New Orleans frequently and I love the people and the city. But I saw that Katrina documentary that showed the maps of New Orleans and all I could think was the hubris of man to build a city there and keep trying. That city is literally just walls pushing back the water. It’s insane really but yes as ppl point out can’t just leave your homes. If the govt really wanted to help and relocate the city it could but they don’t care unfortunately.
New Orleans is a deep blue, majority black city. We do not hate Obama. We are not unaware of climate change. Poverty, not ignorance, is what prevents New Orleans from rising up.
Mostly because their local officials will need a disaster to profit off of. They'll steal the funds and then rip as many ppeople off as possible. I'm sure other red states will get in on it too.
It will be very hard for a lot of people to leave, especially people who own property. They will have more and more trouble finding someone willing to buy real estate in an area that's going to be underwater in a couple of years. Without selling their houses, many people can't afford to move, and they can't afford to maintain two residences, so they just end up getting trapped. Even worse, insurance companies are moving toward not covering homes in flood regions, so when the houses do inevitably flood, those people are going to lose absolutely everything and there will be no recourse for them.
It won't be a gentle transition. Storm surges will increase so more of the area will be flooded more often.
That's the trouble with trying to convince people that things are changing, it's gradual and becomes the new normal. Same as heat in the UK, people are convinced that previous heat waves were worse, when those years that were exceptional at the time would be unexceptional now.
I’m wildly speculating here, but if/when the current administration drives this country into the ground, we might get to rebuild it with modern sensibilities and eschew a lot of this kind of thinking.
We have parishes in Louisiana, not counties, FYI. It's from the French "paroisse," an administrative division originating from the Catholic Church that later became a secular government term.
Property value wise they probably already just lost billions. Thats a national disaster on steroids if you consider that value is going to be permanently lost. Do they get checks from the government because trump “weaponized” climate change? Its nit good on the math no matter what people do in real time. Thats a national security concern financially, i would figure. Gov gunna have to have boots on ground to facilitate a whole coastline being essentially blown up with a nuclear bomb. No going back type shit
Did you read the article? They literally say the same thing is likely going to happen. People do this, regardless of societal conditions, and while we’re at it, don’t dare criticize the absolute trash Louisiana government.
The LA government had a $3 billion wetland-restoration project financed by the Deepwater Horizon oil spill settlement. It was called the Barataria Sediment Diversion and designed specifically to combat rising sea levels and coastal land loss. It was supported by science and had widespread local level bipartisan support. Gov. Jeff Landry’s administration scrapped the initiative to “save commercial fisheries” and avoid maintenance costs.
Yes, this administration would love the pesky blue enclave in the red rash that is LA to go the fuck away.
I suggest resurrection of the Deinosuchus, a three generation waiting period for full ecosystem rebalancing with a new apex predator, and pile raised human habitation for continued societal development. Let's get on that.
If I were moving because I feared my home would be underwater in the next 30-40 years, I'd kinda feel like an a-hole to the people buying my doomed abode. 🫤😟🙃
We should start trying various climate refugee relocation and housing plans so we can better deal with the tens of millions of climate refugees around the world in the coming decades.
That's going to entirely depend on who's in charge at the time. The current administration would be very happy to simply not allow anyone on a plane coming this way unless they have a US passport or several million dollars, would militarize the borders with orders to shoot to kill, and sink any boats full of climate refugees coming this way. Even if you have a sympathetic administration and the political will to help, at what point do we get overwhelmed with too many to help? The most sane response is guided degrowth everywhere, live more simply, and assist developing nations to build the infrastructure necessary to shelter in place or nearby.
What about the internal climate refugees? People currently living in low lying parts of the east coast.
Phoenix is a pretty big city too. What if there's no more water to pipe into the desert?
Take a look at insurance premiums and how they've changed over the past few years. Whole swathes of the country will be uninsurable. FEMA's budget isn't infinite either
Well. That's going to be tricky. How much do you want to spend on people who were told over and over again they shouldn't be living there because of climate change and then voted for someone who made it worse and then stayed still until you couldn't survive there anymore? I would say a national reclamation program like the new deal would be in order. They can be part of the population needed to rebuild things in mitigation. They can work at night in their former homes in the desert to strip useful materials until that's all done then work on other projects elsewhere to be useful. I'm certainly not willing to give them a dime to make them whole for their formerly one million dollar mcmansion in the desert, happy to give some income and shelter if they want to do the work to fix it.
We could move a lot of them to currently low population states in the north like Wyoming and Montana and North and South Dakota, they could build the desalination pipeline and canal system from the coast inland to support the development. But no subdivisions suburban hell. Walkable and solar powered reasonable accommodations that last in urbanized satellite cities connected with high speed light rail.
High speed rail is intercity rail light rail is a local service within cities. They are different categories. Unless you willing to evolve maglev( medium speed)
Imagine you build tight clusters of medium rise buildings connected by glazing covered public greenhouse walkways between buildings and you can walk to the train station and go 140mph to next city in the chain. It's doable and sensible.
I mean, you are absolutely right, and we should start with this right the f NOW (or some 20 years ago, but ah well), the thing is though.. given the state of the world right now, and recent developments in politics (of the past cuppa years) lead me to doubt anyone will actually do the right thing and start approaching this with the urgency and seriousness this whole global trend requires…
Upcoming environmental disaster alert, in case no one has thought that far ahead. All those gas stations, oil dumps, dumpyards in general, septic tanks, etc. underwater can't be a good thing for the environment.
I guarantee that people will continue to buy and sell property there for the foreseeable future. It won't stop until insurance companies refuse to insure them.
Won’t stop them for a while either. They’ll just find bigger idiots than them to unload it onto. Each with a cry to some goverment agency of either “help me” or “buy me out”
Buyers won't get a mortgage until they line up homeowners insurance. It is literally impossible. Cut off insurance, and the game of musical chairs is over. And the ones sitting in houses lose the game. Republican governments don't give a damn about their citizens. They figure that the citizens knowingly bought in high-flood-risk areas, so why help bail them out, literally and figuratively.
Someone in PR really dislikes new Orleans because this headline has been bouncing around and fails to mention all the countless other coastal cities would need to be evacuate
I have no idea why Nola gets the headline but I'd love a scientific explanation for that instead of all these weird articles and comments about it
The geography of Nola vs Miami are completely different. It's one of the reasons why Katrina was so disastrous. The water essentially pooled in Nola, and with the river flow (or lack thereof), water couldn't drain out fast enough.
Miami is on its way there but it is nowhere near as catastrophic as Nola. Helene and Milton back to back gave Florida oversaturated ground that couldn't be absorbed due to the increased industrialization post COVID (ft. Desantis). This led to flooding in places where it wouldn't be a problem, typically.
It’s estimated that 25% of housing in the area is vacant and nearly 20,000 residents have left since 2020. They’re basically the Detroit Of The South at this point.
Not sure if expert, but I live ten feet below sea level 😉
Over here these last ten, fifteen years we've actually given the rivers more room because higher dikes are great, until they inevitably fail one day
Due to climate change weather extremes are getting more frequent, what used to be 'once in a thousand years' events have turned into 'once every few decades' events, so adjustments had to be made
River levels can vary drastically, sea level not so much. Unless you get hit by a strong hurricane, like you regularly have on the US east coast
I believe I saw a similar article in australia? Or was it an island in Florida?
Anyway, there simply aren’t enough planes/boats to take everyone out, so even if you were to relocate people, it’s impossible to do so with current means. Not only that, even if you relocate, then what? You don’t suddenly create jobs, crops, houses, etc for everyone.
After reading the article, it really seems like most of the people who need to move will not have to worry about in their lifetimes. So it's not going to happen.
You want people to start believing in human induced climate change? Stop sensationalizing garbage like this. Just giving them more ammunition to say "another prediction that didn't come true"
Many already did after Katrina. Ive been a few times and even though its been decades since the storm there are still quite a few abandoned buildings that no one will return to.
hey climate change deniers, here is your big chance to buy up some cheap real estate when people start leaving. go put you money where your mouth is. love to see how it works out for you.
What would it take to lift all of the buildings in the area to sit on piles well above the projected flood rise and have all the streets be lifted to that level too?
Given the people currently in power in Louisiana, it's more likely people will do the exact opposite. That's just the world we live in. Even when the ocean swallows up a city, idiots will respond with "fake news!" or "democratic hoax!"
Lol. This has been known forever. People will wait until the water rises above the threshold of their homes before screaming for the government to come and and save them.
Many coastal cities are just as vulnerable as NOLA! Miami, Brooklyn, Galveston, Houston are all shortly behind NOLA in terms of timeline for going underwater.
We should have started building sea walls 20 years ago, but starting anytime now would be a huge help.
They have been saying this stuff for 30 years and the water marks on rocks and piers have not moved. Its not something we need to worry about in our lifetimes if it cant be seen in 30 years time.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not an important city in terms of the people, culture, history, and economy since the port for the Mississippi is there
The problem with scientists is that they love throwing in the towel and screaming about risks. No one is relocating a city. Better find ways to mitigate this.
Wurm42 | a day ago
It's hard. Louisiana has actually been pretty proactive in pushing "managed retreat" for smaller coastal communities threatened by storms, rising water, and sinking land. The idea is to get people to move away from threatened areas before there's a crisis.
More on managed retreat:
https://www.georgetownclimate.org/adaptation/toolkits/managed-retreat-toolkit/introduction.html
https://www.nationalacademies.org/projects/DBASSE-BECS-21-01
But New Orleans is vital to Louisiana's economy, and its position at the mouth of the Mississippi River makes it important for the whole country.
Shutting down New Orleans is not an option, and even moving a big chunk of the workforce out of the city would get tons of pushback.
Plus, the state of Louisiana just does not have the resources to do anything on the scale required here. It would require substantial help from the federal government. That kind of help is not likely to come from this administration.
devilishycleverchap | a day ago
>That kind of help is not likely to come from this administration.
And you would think money would be funneled to the state considering who the speaker of the house is.
Wurm42 | a day ago
Yes, you'd think Mike Johnson would understand the danger to his home state.
But apparently the well being of the people of Louisiana is not as important as maintaining the Republican myth that climate change isn't real.
Besides, New Orleans is a diverse city that favors Democrats. It may be that Mike Johnson doesn't want to help "those people."
baronessvonbullshit | a day ago
Mike Johnson and his ilk loathe New Orleans and attempt to extract every bit possible while punishing the City for its lack of deference to Baton Rouge. I guarantee you Jeff Landry and Mike Johnson do not give one flying fuck about the citizens of New Orleans
MuscaMurum | a day ago
The important thing is that all federal buildings are engraved to say "In God We Trust" and that trans people don't exist.
/s
OldBanjoFrog | 5 hours ago
He’s from North Louisiana. They are completely separate from South Louisiana.
ottawadeveloper | a day ago
I hate to say it but eventually nature will just shut down New Orleans. It's not really a question of if but when.
zackks | a day ago
>Plus, the state of Louisiana just does not have the resources to do anything on the scale required here.
Imagine that, instead of putting their heads in the sand to please the emperor and his billionaires, they did this in smaller increments over time. They could absolutely afford to do it.
Status-Basic | a day ago
But that would be socialism! /s
ohsnapdevin | 22 hours ago
“Shitting down New Orleans is not an option” - brother, Mother Nature doesn’t ask.
Happy-Gnome | a day ago
After Katrina it was discussed that the river parishes and Baton Rouge be turned into the new New Orleans with the critical infrastructure relocated up river. Then the government reinvested in the area and that was that
Dependent_Ad_1270 | a day ago
It may be rational thing to move everything and everyone
But it is very human to love historic New Orleans and to want to preserve it
Happy-Gnome | a day ago
I’m from St. Bernard. I get it. I just don’t have any interest in reliving Katrina
SoberBobMonthly | a day ago
"Its not an option" it is unfortunately the only option.
The way you describe New Orleans is how it is NOW. That will not be how it remains and it cant be stopped.
It either moves, or it gets swallowed up
Dependent_Ad_1270 | a day ago
Someone tell the Netherlands that they’re really underwater
TwoFlower68 | a day ago
Like I wrote elsewhere, the Netherlands doesn't have hurricanes with the attending storm surges
Dependent_Ad_1270 | a day ago
Very true
But do not underestimate civil engineering good sir
Wurm42 | a day ago
The Netherlands have started their own managed retreat program in the southwest part of the country. They call it "Room for the River."
https://www.greeneuropeanjournal.eu/land-to-the-river-planned-relocation-in-the-netherlands/
So even the Netherlands has limits to how much they can push the water back these days.
Dependent_Ad_1270 | a day ago
That area isn’t worth it to them on a cost-benefit analysis
Our civil engineers can protect New Orleans if the bean counters deem it worthy
Do not underestimate our engineering capabilities
The issue is having the budget and the will to listen to civil engineers who aren’t concerned about elections
Its a political/budget problem, ask the engineers and they will give you the solution
jaunty411 | a day ago
Is there a point where it no longer makes sense to spend money to protect the city and instead spend it relocating the people?
asyork | 22 hours ago
Yes, but we can also do neither and then blame the Democrats for using their weather control machines, and at least a third of the country will believe it.
transitfreedom | 20 hours ago
Umm you can see the infrastructure in this country right?
PoodlePopXX | a day ago
Proper help also won’t come from their corrupt governor, Landry, either.
That state should have been an economic powerhouse and instead politicians have run it into the ground for years.
1PistnRng2RuleThmAll | 23 hours ago
That’s not to mention how important culturally important the city is to the states culture.
_x_oOo_x_ | a day ago
How do you relocate when you can't sell your home because its value is 0€ due to the flood risk? Unless they're offering free houses on higher ground, people have no choice
BrerChicken | a day ago
>How do you relocate when you can't sell your home because its value is 0€ due to the flood risk?
Easy. Spend the trillions of dollars we collect every year on improving the lives of regular people, instead of starting illegal wars and giving the superrich handouts disguised as "tax incentives."
msm2485 | 17 hours ago
Almost like us regular, average Americans ought to be the ones in charge...
TheVoidSeeker | 11 hours ago
Maybe Americans ought to not vote for a convicted felon?
Orchid-Analyst-550 | a day ago
I bet the Florida coastal residents get a government bail out. At least the neighborhoods that vote GOP.
co5mosk-read | a day ago
Just sell it to the Aquaman
Tabmow | a day ago
Knowing New Orleans, they'll probably build private levees around the Garden District and the rich parts, and let everyone else drown
Psych_Art | a day ago
Simple. You just ‘pull yourself up by the bootstraps’ and buy a second home.
/s
Curleysound | a day ago
My prediction: They will not relocate until they are knee deep in ocean water and lose everything
glowFernOasis | a day ago
I kind of get it for those who own their homes - you can't sell it, so it's a hell of a loss. Pretty brutal.
kstar79 | a day ago
A real government of the people would do something about it now rather than spending money bombing Iran. It's going to cost more the longer folks live there, and the higher real estate gets in other locations.
crispydukes | a day ago
This is what I keep saying. People living in flood zones? A real government would buy their house at market rate and relocate them.
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
We don’t have a government just an occupation
gummo_for_prez | 13 hours ago
We have a collection of the worst type of parasites.
somafiend1987 | 13 hours ago
Instead, well to do developers target minorities with cheap homes on floodplains. The estate kids and country club are on the hills overlooking the river.
gloriousgirl89 | 16 hours ago
To where? These people have jobs there. They cant just be relocated and then not have a living.
transitfreedom | 15 hours ago
They can be relocated in a functional society
fleshfinder420 | 11 hours ago
Job markets fucked though. I applied for 20 positions and got one interview. If the federal government pulled something like this off I’d start giving myself fellatio on Only Fans. As it stands the federal government can’t even properly staff its own agencies
transitfreedom | 5 hours ago
It doesn’t want to that’s the difference this is not a people’s government it’s a hostile force.
SSquirrel76 | 3 hours ago
You actually got an interview? Buy a lottery ticket that’s rare as hell
gummo_for_prez | 13 hours ago
It's sad that you think this is an unsolvable problem
Bigkillian | a day ago
What do other taxpayers get for the money spent? I’m drowning in debt over here, can’t afford to even visit New Orleans and I’ve been heavily subsidizing Louisiana my entire life (50% of their state budget comes from the federal government, and unlike some people, I actually pay my taxes).
In my lifetime, New Orleans flooded in 1995, then again during Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and we all helped them out when they stupidly decided to move back into the flood plains. Years later, their representatives voted against aid for the northeast after Hurricane Sandy, then had their hands out for more flood aid in 2016. How many times are we supposed to bail them out? Fuck that. How is this my responsibility?
JuicyDarkSpace | 23 hours ago
"unlike some people"
You mean billionaires, and corporations, right?
The nation’s millionaires and billionaires are evading more than $150 billion a year in taxes, according to the head of the Internal Revenue Service.
Twenty-three corporations paid zero federal tax over the five-year period despite being profitable in every single year. And 109 corporations paid zero federal tax in at least one of the five years.
#RIGHT?
Bigkillian | 23 hours ago
Yes. The same billionaires and corporations that, because of citizens united (what a dumb fucking name, but it makes sense in that the poorly educated think it’s for them) have more political sway than they should in influencing our government.
kstar79 | a day ago
What's happening now is when a hurricane hits an area like New Orleans, the feds are paying for the cost of replacement for these homes, and some of them are being rebuilt. Then we do the whole dance again. Paying people to leave now is the cheaper solution in the long term.
Bigkillian | 23 hours ago
The taxpayers and our children’s future are the federal wallet. The government doesn’t have its own money. It’s our money, and they’re not spending it wisely.
Open_Examination_591 | 22 hours ago
A one time relocation is a wise investment.... how is it not?
crispydukes | 18 hours ago
This is exactly the point. The government should say, “no, we’re not paying for this. We are paying one time to move or rebuild in. Responsible way.”
To be fair. New Orleans is a historical and culturally/significant place, but some McMansion along a flooding river in whocaresville is more the target of my program.
Used-Lake-8148 | 18 hours ago
Please tell me you’re not old enough to vote
Bigkillian | 17 hours ago
“In my lifetime” and events going back over thirty years. Who do you think I voted for and who do you think I should vote for?
Used-Lake-8148 | 17 hours ago
I only needed to read the first sentence to know you lack the thinking skills required for decision making
Bigkillian | 17 hours ago
What were you hoping to accomplish by joining into this conversation?
Putrid-Week4615 | 23 hours ago
This is why states like Louisiana rush to gerrymander even more. They want to keep govt not working for the people, and keep it working for investors and billionaire criminals.
krichard-21 | a day ago
They will. MAGAs are more than ready to blame Democrats.
That is the extent of their leadership capabilities.
phoneacct696969 | 3 hours ago
They won’t do anything because realistically it’s the next governors problem.
Photomancer | 21 hours ago
Bailouts for the rich? /s
devilishycleverchap | a day ago
Why not Aquaman?
AlwaysUpvotesScience | a day ago
Why not Zoidberg?!
candygram4mongo | a day ago
Ben Shapiro is such an unserious person.
TrevGlodo | a day ago
I'd rather sell below market value now than get $0 for it later
bstabens | 23 hours ago
Sell to whom? The whole point is NOT having people live there.
waitwuh | 22 hours ago
Maybe to someone who can set up rice paddies or fish farms haha
cliko | 21 hours ago
> Sell to whom?
FUCKING AQUAMAN
bstabens | 10 hours ago
Did you notice the "man" in Aquaman?
RedTrumpetVine | 11 hours ago
But you can sell it. There is demand for it now and the next decade. But as a native-born New Orleanian (who got out) I can tell you the Inshallah attitude is pervasive. Just deny the obvious and God will fix it eventually. Something always works out.
_trouble_every_day_ | 4 hours ago
I’m curious, are you lying intentionally or are you just oblivious? Because It’s one of the worst markets for sellers in the country.
RedTrumpetVine | 2 hours ago
I didn't write that you can sell it doe the inflated 2022 prices. But people are still buying. It is the absurd asking prices combined with HOI that is causing homes to sit empty
moocat55 | an hour ago
Responsible municipalities are looking at planned retreat, but it's extremely hard to buy back a neighborhood. It's expensive, and people think the environmental rational is just an excuse for a government land grab. So, what we're seeing happening now is the insurance agency kicking off the process by pulling coverage in vulnerable areas. One way or another, people are going to move.
venturousbeard | a day ago
Similar to my prediction that people won't start leaving Arizona until there's a mass casualty event of heat strokes.
Ttthhasdf | a day ago
People are leaving Arizona now and moving to places like Tennessee. And California. Everyone talks about these immigrants like they are COVID political movers but they are climate refugees also, really.
Mysterious-Prompt212 | a day ago
Loss of water is going to be the big one.
fuzzimus | a day ago
Check out “wildcat subdivisions” that have no water supply and rely on trucked-in water. People still live there.
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
So idiots
ChronicBitRot | 15 hours ago
I mean, a lot of people there now are going to have to sell property in order to leave (or take a massive financial loss that very few could afford). If someone were to buy that property now knowing what the water situation is, they'd absolutely be an idiot.
justaguywithadream | 5 hours ago
How is getting water trucked in any different than getting oil or propane trucked in in cold climates?
Or getting food trucked like pretty much everywhere?
I think the way we (the western world at least) live is unsustainable and we should change and live more in harmony with the earth, but getting water trucked in doesn't seem any worse than any other irresponsible things we all do, including yourself likely (and if you are living in a fully sustainable way then major kudos!)
Sunshine33_ | 22 hours ago
I was told this twenty years ago by my Geography professor at Pima CC.
Meritania | a day ago
That’s only going to happen if the aging power infrastructure also collapses during the event.
IncubusDarkness | a day ago
"If"
Lmao
Child_of_the_Hamster | a day ago
For many, how can they relocate when the government isn’t offering any assistance? Who is going to buy their homes that will be underwater soon?
I’m not disagreeing at all that they *should* relocate, but for folks who live paycheck to paycheck, it’s not hard to understand why they stay when their choice is between being voluntarily homeless now or an involuntarily homeless climate refugee later.
TeamHope4 | a day ago
FEMA has programs where they buy houses of people in flood-prone areas. I don't know how well they are funded, particularly now, buy they do exist. Part of it is that people don't want to move away from the only place they know and away from the only people they know. But they can't move entire towns of people to the same different town, so they stay.
petit_cochon | a day ago
FEMA does not offer that to us in New Orleans, and frankly, anyone alive during Katrina has about as much trust for FEMA as for the Army Corps, which is to say none.
ravens-n-roses | a day ago
Right without government aid relocating out of a city isn't exactly easy. Like yeah ok maybe everybody who rents could theoretically leave, but what about the people who don't?? I'm not here to sux off the landlords, but litterally what are you supposed to do if you own one or more properties?? Hope some other fool will be willing to sink so you can swim??
gloriousgirl89 | 16 hours ago
And leaving a job. Getting a job now isnt easy. Taking a million peoples homes away and sending them to where? No jobs no money.
27Elephantballoons | a day ago
My prediction, people can't afford to just leave
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
So can’t afford to live
Curleysound | a day ago
Well, tell the scientists that
whichwitch9 | a day ago
A large chunk of the city cannot afford to relocate. Without aid, they're literally just fucked. We're talking people born and raised in the city, not transplants, who's families have lived there for generations.
Gnomey_dont_u_knowme | a day ago
It’s been the same story since Katrina - the federal government would love for these people to just die
Rickshmitt | a day ago
The state government allows building in flood plains. And the state says the levys are fine. The fed is approached for disaster relief after all the bad decisions were made.
Nowadays though, yes, the fed wants every blue city to die
Nabe8 | a day ago
New Orleans was established before the state of Louisiana existed. 🤷♂️.
Dependent_Ad_1270 | a day ago
The levies are “fine” now
They weren’t before Katrina because bean counters didn’t listen to the engineers
Everyone wondered why the Los Angeles river is so wide and deep, until it filled up a few years ago
Because they built it the more expensive way that the engineers knew was required for hundred-year storms, not what the bean counters said we could afford
If they didn’t listen to the engineers in Los Angeles, many homes would’ve been washed away. Nobody has any clue because it was effective and they complain about all the concrete and how it should be turned to a green park lol
petit_cochon | a day ago
Incorrect. The Army Corps build shitty levees and a shipping canal they knew would bring floodwaters into the city and beyond in the event of a direct hit from a big storm. They knew.
Dependent_Ad_1270 | 23 hours ago
Yeah and then they were forced to listen to the civil engineers in the Army Corps who knew what needed to be done
The Army Corps are the ones who improved that after
Its not the engineers in the Army Corps who are the problem, they do incredible work
It’s the budget restraints and the bean counters who didn’t approve what should’ve been done in the first place
petit_cochon | a day ago
The levees are built and managed by the Army Corps of Engineers, which is federal, and the state. It's complex.
And you have it exactly backwards. We got fucked in Katrina because the Army Corps a) built an unnecessary shipping channel against our protests that funneled water straight into the city, just like their studies said it would and b) built absurdly substandard levees and lied about their capacities. Then we goy blamed for asking for aid. We goddamn BEGGED them not to build the MRGO. I know people have short memories, but really, Katrina was only 21 years ago and all of this was covered in great depth by the media.
The whole country is reliant on our shipping port, our refineries, etc. New Orleans becoming uninhabitable will not simply be a local issue.
FYI, the levees are better now. We've had direct hits from extremely powerful storms and been okay. Climate change will fuck us for sure, but look at the U.S. and ask yourself how many coastal cities will be sitting pretty in 70 years? Current predictions say not many.
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
So USA is just over then
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
That’s sadly the point
kdogrocks2 | a day ago
True but not out of stupidity or anything, after all who will they sell their homes to? Aquaman?
bayhack | 20 hours ago
I’ve been to New Orleans frequently and I love the people and the city. But I saw that Katrina documentary that showed the maps of New Orleans and all I could think was the hubris of man to build a city there and keep trying. That city is literally just walls pushing back the water. It’s insane really but yes as ppl point out can’t just leave your homes. If the govt really wanted to help and relocate the city it could but they don’t care unfortunately.
DoublePostedBroski | a day ago
Then they’ll blame Obama
petit_cochon | a day ago
New Orleans is a deep blue, majority black city. We do not hate Obama. We are not unaware of climate change. Poverty, not ignorance, is what prevents New Orleans from rising up.
transitfreedom | 21 hours ago
Vietnam, China, Russian empire: no excuse
PW0110 | a day ago
Not really a prediction tbh Florida’s already been doing this
conanmagnuson | a day ago
Am I oblivious or do neither the article and paywalled study project a timeframe?
One-Incident3208 | 23 hours ago
"Fema can take my swamp when they pry it from my cold dead hands"
NotSoFastLady | 23 hours ago
Mostly because their local officials will need a disaster to profit off of. They'll steal the funds and then rip as many ppeople off as possible. I'm sure other red states will get in on it too.
tigolbing | 22 hours ago
"imma wait it out"
cascadia8 | a day ago
Sing song sing song!
NotAnotherEmpire | 22 hours ago
The Florida strategy.
gamerjerome | 20 hours ago
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-zero-below- | 19 hours ago
Then when the water recedes for a few months, they’ll rebuild.
limbodog | 19 hours ago
And they'll keep rebuilding until the water stops receding after each storm
superanth | 18 hours ago
Pity. I really love the food there.
GodzillaSuit | 18 hours ago
It will be very hard for a lot of people to leave, especially people who own property. They will have more and more trouble finding someone willing to buy real estate in an area that's going to be underwater in a couple of years. Without selling their houses, many people can't afford to move, and they can't afford to maintain two residences, so they just end up getting trapped. Even worse, insurance companies are moving toward not covering homes in flood regions, so when the houses do inevitably flood, those people are going to lose absolutely everything and there will be no recourse for them.
Herpderpyoloswag | 17 hours ago
It will be interesting to see what happens with insurance.
mecheterp96 | 17 hours ago
And then just like every time a hurricane hits, the rest of the country will bail them out
abhishek888 | 14 hours ago
So that's where the original usage of "knee deep" came from.
norfolkdiver | 8 hours ago
It won't be a gentle transition. Storm surges will increase so more of the area will be flooded more often.
That's the trouble with trying to convince people that things are changing, it's gradual and becomes the new normal. Same as heat in the UK, people are convinced that previous heat waves were worse, when those years that were exceptional at the time would be unexceptional now.
Proper-Exercise-2364 | 7 hours ago
I know, right? Why don't they just buy a house somewhere else?
Repulsive-Royal-5952 | a day ago
Yep. If anyone in the City, County or state government goes along with the science they will be loudly and swiftly protested and removed from office.
Curleysound | a day ago
I’m wildly speculating here, but if/when the current administration drives this country into the ground, we might get to rebuild it with modern sensibilities and eschew a lot of this kind of thinking.
Repulsive-Royal-5952 | 22 hours ago
That is wildly underestimating the complete stupidity of American voters.
petit_cochon | a day ago
We have parishes in Louisiana, not counties, FYI. It's from the French "paroisse," an administrative division originating from the Catholic Church that later became a secular government term.
Repulsive-Royal-5952 | 22 hours ago
Yes I know and I hate the term.
Accurate_Ant_921 | 23 hours ago
Property value wise they probably already just lost billions. Thats a national disaster on steroids if you consider that value is going to be permanently lost. Do they get checks from the government because trump “weaponized” climate change? Its nit good on the math no matter what people do in real time. Thats a national security concern financially, i would figure. Gov gunna have to have boots on ground to facilitate a whole coastline being essentially blown up with a nuclear bomb. No going back type shit
fppfpp | a day ago
You sound very satisfied with your smug comment. But a very large amount of ppl literally cannot afford to just up and leave.
Curleysound | a day ago
Did you read the article? They literally say the same thing is likely going to happen. People do this, regardless of societal conditions, and while we’re at it, don’t dare criticize the absolute trash Louisiana government.
Fishinluvwfeathers | a day ago
The LA government had a $3 billion wetland-restoration project financed by the Deepwater Horizon oil spill settlement. It was called the Barataria Sediment Diversion and designed specifically to combat rising sea levels and coastal land loss. It was supported by science and had widespread local level bipartisan support. Gov. Jeff Landry’s administration scrapped the initiative to “save commercial fisheries” and avoid maintenance costs.
Yes, this administration would love the pesky blue enclave in the red rash that is LA to go the fuck away.
ctdrever | a day ago
America's new Venice.
UntowardHatter | a day ago
Oh, when you say it like that it sounds so fancy
Rickshmitt | a day ago
Fancy fast food for alligators. Just swim up to your house and grab a bite
ExMOnotwiththeflow | a day ago
I have a really good idea! Let's just introduce a predator/competitor for the alligator and declare open season on hunting them.
Similar programs have been done many times and have never had any long lasting negative environmental consequences whatsoever.
(/s)
XonikzD | 6 hours ago
I suggest resurrection of the Deinosuchus, a three generation waiting period for full ecosystem rebalancing with a new apex predator, and pile raised human habitation for continued societal development. Let's get on that.
/s
ctdrever | a day ago
Reality and labels often differ.
szazzy | a day ago
There already is a Venice, Louisiana located directly south of New Orleans. If NOLA is under water, Venice is probably already fully submerged
Brainrants | a day ago
*Atlantis
Cleopatrashouseboy | a day ago
New Orleans is sinkin’ man and I don’t wanna swim.
Successful-Table-455 | 15 hours ago
In Gord We Trust
MerrieJingles | a day ago
If I were moving because I feared my home would be underwater in the next 30-40 years, I'd kinda feel like an a-hole to the people buying my doomed abode. 🫤😟🙃
EverybodyMakes | a day ago
We should start trying various climate refugee relocation and housing plans so we can better deal with the tens of millions of climate refugees around the world in the coming decades.
FixMyCondo | a day ago
We can’t even get affordable healthcare.
HighOnGoofballs | a day ago
Sure, all we have to do is convince the country to let us raise taxes
synocrat | a day ago
That's going to entirely depend on who's in charge at the time. The current administration would be very happy to simply not allow anyone on a plane coming this way unless they have a US passport or several million dollars, would militarize the borders with orders to shoot to kill, and sink any boats full of climate refugees coming this way. Even if you have a sympathetic administration and the political will to help, at what point do we get overwhelmed with too many to help? The most sane response is guided degrowth everywhere, live more simply, and assist developing nations to build the infrastructure necessary to shelter in place or nearby.
TwoFlower68 | a day ago
What about the internal climate refugees? People currently living in low lying parts of the east coast.
Phoenix is a pretty big city too. What if there's no more water to pipe into the desert?
Take a look at insurance premiums and how they've changed over the past few years. Whole swathes of the country will be uninsurable. FEMA's budget isn't infinite either
synocrat | a day ago
Well. That's going to be tricky. How much do you want to spend on people who were told over and over again they shouldn't be living there because of climate change and then voted for someone who made it worse and then stayed still until you couldn't survive there anymore? I would say a national reclamation program like the new deal would be in order. They can be part of the population needed to rebuild things in mitigation. They can work at night in their former homes in the desert to strip useful materials until that's all done then work on other projects elsewhere to be useful. I'm certainly not willing to give them a dime to make them whole for their formerly one million dollar mcmansion in the desert, happy to give some income and shelter if they want to do the work to fix it.
synocrat | a day ago
We could move a lot of them to currently low population states in the north like Wyoming and Montana and North and South Dakota, they could build the desalination pipeline and canal system from the coast inland to support the development. But no subdivisions suburban hell. Walkable and solar powered reasonable accommodations that last in urbanized satellite cities connected with high speed light rail.
transitfreedom | 20 hours ago
High speed rail is intercity rail light rail is a local service within cities. They are different categories. Unless you willing to evolve maglev( medium speed)
synocrat | 20 hours ago
Are you saying it would illegal to use it for connecting satellite developments?9
transitfreedom | 17 hours ago
High speed rail is not light rail
transitfreedom | 20 hours ago
Do the China method of dealing with the dessert
synocrat | a day ago
Imagine you build tight clusters of medium rise buildings connected by glazing covered public greenhouse walkways between buildings and you can walk to the train station and go 140mph to next city in the chain. It's doable and sensible.
New-Leader-7891 | a day ago
That would require acknowledging that climate change is not a Chinese hoax
EyeSuspicious777 | a day ago
Tens of millions wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that there are billions of people living in places that will be soon be uninhabitable.
alwcrcrap | 9 hours ago
You misspelled billions. A billion people live within 10km / 6 miles of an ocean coast. 3.5 billion live within 150km / 100 miles.
Covfefetarian | a day ago
I mean, you are absolutely right, and we should start with this right the f NOW (or some 20 years ago, but ah well), the thing is though.. given the state of the world right now, and recent developments in politics (of the past cuppa years) lead me to doubt anyone will actually do the right thing and start approaching this with the urgency and seriousness this whole global trend requires…
Whooptidooh | a day ago
Which has been known for quite some time now.
ChrisRiley_42 | a day ago
The Tragically Hip even wrote a song about it.
CrowdyPooster | 23 hours ago
Not trying to discredit this, but I heard this back in the 1990s
Redtex | 22 hours ago
Upcoming environmental disaster alert, in case no one has thought that far ahead. All those gas stations, oil dumps, dumpyards in general, septic tanks, etc. underwater can't be a good thing for the environment.
PMmeIamlonley | a day ago
The fact they didn't start doing this directly after Katrina is a testament to the entrenched stupidity and courruption that runs every American city
Orchid-Analyst-550 | a day ago
Absolute corruption.
https://www.nola.com/opinions/james_gill/james-gill-hard-rock-rooted-in-corruption-and-incompetence-and-it-goes-back-years/article_c8b59a08-5d8b-11ea-96da-5b3ee3b07a85.html
There's people that lost their homes still living in tent cities. Government just moves them around and hides them.
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/homeless-encampment-landry-relocation-new-orleans/article_bfc20ea0-d2e7-11ef-8af1-d3664d125ac9.html
shinyxena | a day ago
Or they start building on giant boats and become a cool steampunk flotilla village.
Mach5Driver | 20 hours ago
I guarantee that people will continue to buy and sell property there for the foreseeable future. It won't stop until insurance companies refuse to insure them.
knowledgeable_diablo | 9 hours ago
Won’t stop them for a while either. They’ll just find bigger idiots than them to unload it onto. Each with a cry to some goverment agency of either “help me” or “buy me out”
Mach5Driver | 7 hours ago
Buyers won't get a mortgage until they line up homeowners insurance. It is literally impossible. Cut off insurance, and the game of musical chairs is over. And the ones sitting in houses lose the game. Republican governments don't give a damn about their citizens. They figure that the citizens knowingly bought in high-flood-risk areas, so why help bail them out, literally and figuratively.
khaalis | 15 hours ago
They’ll just rebrand the city as New Venice.
jkurratt | 22 hours ago
Spoilers: But they will not relocate, and will cry a lot when the submerging starts.
Calzinarzin | 19 hours ago
They won't, just like people won't leave Phoenix until the last drop of water is adays gone.
begaterpillar | 16 hours ago
If you have to rebuild your city every 8 years because of a disaster maybe...
SupaSlide | 14 hours ago
Who are they going to sell their houses to, Ben?? Fucking Aquaman!?
Aggie_15 | a day ago
(Read fast for immersion) Say rising sea levels do happen, what’s stopping these people from selling it.
hakairyu | a day ago
Who’s going to be buying? I doubt even the troglodytes who still think the sea level isn’t going to rise would like to bet house money on that.
KennyFulgencio | 11 hours ago
Aquaman
Muted_Bee7111 | a day ago
What about Miami?
summane | 22 hours ago
Someone in PR really dislikes new Orleans because this headline has been bouncing around and fails to mention all the countless other coastal cities would need to be evacuate
I have no idea why Nola gets the headline but I'd love a scientific explanation for that instead of all these weird articles and comments about it
red286 | 22 hours ago
Because Nola's already been underwater.
summane | 22 hours ago
And we heard the same thing then too
fsischatbotplz | 15 hours ago
The geography of Nola vs Miami are completely different. It's one of the reasons why Katrina was so disastrous. The water essentially pooled in Nola, and with the river flow (or lack thereof), water couldn't drain out fast enough.
Miami is on its way there but it is nowhere near as catastrophic as Nola. Helene and Milton back to back gave Florida oversaturated ground that couldn't be absorbed due to the increased industrialization post COVID (ft. Desantis). This led to flooding in places where it wouldn't be a problem, typically.
summane | 8 hours ago
You've got no idea what you're talking about. River flow? Wtf
Magog14 | 16 hours ago
It's above sea level. Nola is below sea level.
Sensitive_Scar_1800 | a day ago
lol where? It’s not like theres a housing crisis….oh wait
SteakandTrach | 23 hours ago
The map of Louisiana hasn’t been accurate for a long time. It no longer looks like a boot. It’s an ankle, roughly chewed off by an alligator.
red286 | 22 hours ago
Act fast folks, Aquaman's wealthy, but not that wealthy.
djangovsjango | 18 hours ago
Just believe its not happening like republican party !
TraditionalLaw7763 | 14 hours ago
It’s all a hoax. That water has always been there. Above your head.
knowledgeable_diablo | 9 hours ago
Or it’s another perfectly timed and executed Biden Trap he laid out to trip up the holey golden court jester
TheMuffler42069 | 18 hours ago
A little late on your prediction
GlowInTheDarkSpaces | 16 hours ago
We’ve known this was coming for years.
MacroMicro1313 | 13 hours ago
Best we can do you is nothing, however there’s a lot of need in this age so your gonna have to share the nothing with others.
fonduelovertx | 12 hours ago
A lot of them left with Katrina already. It's going to be done more through big events than through attrition.
Quereilla | a day ago
Are we sure that New Orleans isn't being relocated by now? Its population has reduced a lot since a long time ago.
Manicpixiemanateeman | 21 hours ago
It’s estimated that 25% of housing in the area is vacant and nearly 20,000 residents have left since 2020. They’re basically the Detroit Of The South at this point.
angrycat537 | a day ago
Or, you know, build walls like Netherlands
TwoFlower68 | a day ago
The Netherlands doesn't have a hurricane season lol
angrycat537 | a day ago
Japan does and they also have strongest earthquakes on earth, but that didn't prevent them to build ramparts to hold back river floodings.
TwoFlower68 | a day ago
River flooding is a different beast than living below sea level
angrycat537 | 23 hours ago
Ok, sea level flooding expert
TwoFlower68 | 22 hours ago
Not sure if expert, but I live ten feet below sea level 😉
Over here these last ten, fifteen years we've actually given the rivers more room because higher dikes are great, until they inevitably fail one day
Due to climate change weather extremes are getting more frequent, what used to be 'once in a thousand years' events have turned into 'once every few decades' events, so adjustments had to be made
River levels can vary drastically, sea level not so much. Unless you get hit by a strong hurricane, like you regularly have on the US east coast
harryx67 | a day ago
Drill baby drill and burn baby burn…
Adrasto | a day ago
What about NL?
TurboHenk | a day ago
What would calling it New Lorleans help?
moose098 | a day ago
They don’t get hurricanes. They will most likely be in trouble eventually though, even with their investment in flood infrastructure.
oldmanhero | 20 hours ago
Bangladesh is the more salient comparison.
Zagar1776 | a day ago
I guess Poseidon won the Battle of New Orleans
1337ingDisorder | a day ago
Quick! Someone get Donovan to do a NOLA re-write of his song Atlantis!
Lawsmay | a day ago
How did this happen??? Who could have saw this coming???
Sometime-the-idiot62 | a day ago
When you build your city in a swamp...
sorry97 | 23 hours ago
I believe I saw a similar article in australia? Or was it an island in Florida?
Anyway, there simply aren’t enough planes/boats to take everyone out, so even if you were to relocate people, it’s impossible to do so with current means. Not only that, even if you relocate, then what? You don’t suddenly create jobs, crops, houses, etc for everyone.
Fornico | 23 hours ago
After reading the article, it really seems like most of the people who need to move will not have to worry about in their lifetimes. So it's not going to happen.
Important_Pirate_150 | 22 hours ago
Llevan con esa historia desde 1990 y las casas de los marineros de Milos en Grecia siguen estando a nivel del mar desde el siglo XlX
Senior_Income_1785 | 22 hours ago
Found the perfect place for OLeary and his data centers !
PLIKITYPLAK | 20 hours ago
You want people to start believing in human induced climate change? Stop sensationalizing garbage like this. Just giving them more ammunition to say "another prediction that didn't come true"
dungeonsprawler | 20 hours ago
Many already did after Katrina. Ive been a few times and even though its been decades since the storm there are still quite a few abandoned buildings that no one will return to.
VirtualPoolBoy | 20 hours ago
Of course it’s the coolest city in America that goes first. This is why we can’t have nice things.
No-Common-1801 | 19 hours ago
Ponders in Miami
Euphoric-Cold9592 | 18 hours ago
Evacuate to MS or AL! TX is full af
kingcakeaholic | 14 hours ago
A) all of NoLa isn’t beneath sea level. B) the reason it’s there is much commerce.
YallRedditForThis | 12 hours ago
Zion to the Lakers confirmed.
SundryArtifice | 10 hours ago
Haha people won't do squat but complain that no one warned them or tried to do anything about it
knowledgeable_diablo | 9 hours ago
Mumma June “nuh huh, Im staying right here!”
314159Man | 9 hours ago
hey climate change deniers, here is your big chance to buy up some cheap real estate when people start leaving. go put you money where your mouth is. love to see how it works out for you.
sorE_doG | 8 hours ago
Rising seas will swallow much of Florida real estate, and Manhattan island is going to struggle too.
XonikzD | 6 hours ago
What would it take to lift all of the buildings in the area to sit on piles well above the projected flood rise and have all the streets be lifted to that level too?
spike | 5 hours ago
Billions, in public investment that we don't seem to be able to do anymore.
Dedjester0269 | 4 hours ago
Awww shit. Here we go again.
mmilthomasn | 4 hours ago
Can we have a Venice of the New World situation?
Tiedfor3rd | 4 hours ago
They’re gonna turn it into an American Venice oughta be pretty cool if they do it right
JackFisherBooks | 22 hours ago
Given the people currently in power in Louisiana, it's more likely people will do the exact opposite. That's just the world we live in. Even when the ocean swallows up a city, idiots will respond with "fake news!" or "democratic hoax!"
Elvarien2 | 19 hours ago
Hire the Dutch. We have some relevant experience a.k.a half our whole ass country.
spike | 5 hours ago
You also had centuries to deal with it.
Elvarien2 | 5 hours ago
Everyone did.
Climate collapse did not spring out of nowhere you've had roughly 80 or so years to deal with either it, or it's consequences.
mkt853 | 17 hours ago
Where will we have Mardi Gras then?
knowledgeable_diablo | 9 hours ago
Burbon river.
IncidentalApex | a day ago
Lol. This has been known forever. People will wait until the water rises above the threshold of their homes before screaming for the government to come and and save them.
Impressive-Window135 | a day ago
These articles are alarmist and a way to discourage action. Nobody says to relocate Venice. New Orleans is a vital city.
transitfreedom | 20 hours ago
Nature: 🤷🤷♂️ don’t care destroying it anyway
phusler | 23 hours ago
Poor people can't move so they'll stay till it's too late.
gnarlyknits | 23 hours ago
I get it honestly. It’s unlike any other place I’ve been and I’d die there. It’s sad that it may not exist soon. It’s my dream place to live.
sourpussmcgee | 23 hours ago
I mean a lot of Louisiana is poor and can’t really afford to just move so easily.
ImpactNext1283 | 22 hours ago
Many coastal cities are just as vulnerable as NOLA! Miami, Brooklyn, Galveston, Houston are all shortly behind NOLA in terms of timeline for going underwater.
We should have started building sea walls 20 years ago, but starting anytime now would be a huge help.
BayouMan2 | 21 hours ago
This isn't really news; frankly it's sensationalist and defeatist and will only hurt the people who live there by discouraging solutions.
sourpickles1979 | 15 hours ago
Lol
EyesfurtherUp | 5 hours ago
Nobody is going to believe them. They predicted many cities would be under water 10 years ago and guess what , those cities are not under water.
kateinoly | a day ago
Duh
Stooper_Dave | a day ago
They have been saying this stuff for 30 years and the water marks on rocks and piers have not moved. Its not something we need to worry about in our lifetimes if it cant be seen in 30 years time.
Regurgitator001 | a day ago
Lol, New Orleans is peanuts compared to New York, Miami.
ProcrastinationSite | a day ago
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's not an important city in terms of the people, culture, history, and economy since the port for the Mississippi is there
Ashamed-Country3909 | a day ago
Lol. If it all floods ...and we have advanced notice of it flooding....dig out some spot closer inland. Boom. New port of Mississippi.
BannedByFascistss | a day ago
They are trying to get all of the poor people to leave.
morganational | a day ago
I predict the scientists can suck my balls.
UntowardHatter | a day ago
Nobody wants to suck on your dried little raisins.
Tiny man balls.
morganational | a day ago
I have rather large balls thank you very much. If this is your way of trying to get in on them, it's not going to work. Nice try.
UntowardHatter | a day ago
Only man with tiny raisins would say they have large balls.
Nobody is fooled, Tiny Ball.
morganational | a day ago
Nice try. Not falling for it. You'll never see these glorious huevos.
UntowardHatter | a day ago
They are smooth like the egg?
A man let's the hair dominate the crinkles and sack.
morganational | a day ago
Wouldn't you like to know...
UntowardHatter | a day ago
Non. A gentleman never inquires. Nor does he tell.
AwkwardChuckle | a day ago
Cold ocean water tends to cause shrinkage.
tony-ole | a day ago
Science has failed our world. Science has failed our Mother Earth.
Otherwise_Bee_8799 | 18 hours ago
Democrats and their Chinese handlers must want to buy property…..
Ashamed-Passion-314 | a day ago
The problem with scientists is that they love throwing in the towel and screaming about risks. No one is relocating a city. Better find ways to mitigate this.