BYD aims to overtake Toyota in five years without relying on the US market

132 points by cambeiu a day ago on reddit | 18 comments

[OP] cambeiu | a day ago

That BYD feels confident that it can become the largest car maker in the world WITHOUT selling a single car in the US is the bigger story here.

RR321 | a day ago

Now let every industry stop relying on the US...

salomo926 | 14 hours ago

The US government is working on it.

Ifch317 | a day ago

US consumers will overpay for under-performing gas-powered automobiles and keep the industries of US, Japan and South Korea alive, but in hot-house conditions.

Meanwhile, the free-trade party will continue to self-deal and ruin all the wealthiest and most powerful nation that has ever existed.

almost_retired | a day ago

My heart goes out to "the wealthiest and most powerful nation that has ever existed". Could not have happened to a nicer country.

Vandeleur1 | a day ago

Okay but let's not have any illusions about the endgoal of its chief competitor here

pinellaspete | a day ago

Why? American companies don't have a long term plan. They have had plenty of time to develop affordable EVs but chose not to because it hurt their bottom line and they only think as far as the next quarter's results.

Vandeleur1 | a day ago

I'm just replying directly to the comment above, not getting into the broader discussion.

The king is dead, long live the king. So on and so forth.

technicallynotlying | a day ago

They're not going to invade Greenland or Venezuela are they?

Vandeleur1 | a day ago

Name checks out

I'm literally just replying to that statement about "the wealthiest and most powerful nation".

Bodoblock | a day ago

This is why not letting Chinese cars into the US is a strategic mistake. American car manufacturers are fat and lazy off of undeserved profits subsidized by the American consumer who have no choice.

Tariff Chinese EVs to some degree if you have to in order to give American manufacturers time to adapt. But blocking them out of the market entirely is nonsense.

The only thing we seem to know how to make is gigantic gas-guzzling trucks larger than tanks which no one else in the world wants.

Pippi-ki-yay | a day ago

These seemed plausible to me until I saw the prices of the vehicles they plan to sell in Europe.

[OP] cambeiu | a day ago

KawasakiMetro | a day ago

Leave Toyota alone.

In fact I will be cheering from the sidelines if they make more sales than any one if these.

  • Ford Motor Company
  • Chevrolet
  • GMC
  • Cadillac
  • Buick
  • Jeep
  • Ram Trucks
  • Chrysler
  • Dodge
  • Lincoln
  • Tesla
  • Rivian
  • Lucid Motors

UrbanStrangler | a day ago

Out of curiousity where does Honda fall in this line of thinking? If Toyota is a 10/10 right now for reliability Hondas atleast a high 8 or 9.

gooncommanderdogsy | 9 hours ago

Globally BYD is already beating all of those brands individually. They sell more than Tesla, Stellantis and Ford and are only beaten out by General Motors as a whole conglomerate.

eloton_james | a day ago

I think they’ll probably get there in 3 years, at one point there were like a hundred car start ups in china and out of that extreme competitive market they succeeded by owning their supply chain and retaining quality and innovation.