EU saw, how US went about things with China only to dial back the tariff narrative as soon as China started to threaten supply chains, and thought I want a chunk of that humiliation pie that US had please...
Not really. Nobody isn't still making televisions in the US. There might be some country of origin washing going on, but fundamentally nothing has changed. Same seller, same buyer, same supply chain with just a detour extra steps between.
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Anything is possible with political will… but I don’t think Trump has convinced Washington it’s worth the pain. Next President might undo everything for an easy win against inflation.
Canada just put 50% tariffs on a bunch of american goods, so I can't even buy made in America anymore. It would literally be cheaper for me to buy Chinese goods from America than American made goods.
Yeah, the idea is to diversify the supply chain, not halt imports entirely. That country of origin washing isn't cheap and it gives a comparative advantage other places. Do you think the U.s has more leverage against a behemoth like china? or a bunch of smaller countries?
The US cut back significantly on Chinese imports, forcing China to dump more of its exports to the EU, which is why the EU is fighting back. China only has one leverage over the US, which is rare earth minerals, an issue that is being worked on and should be resolved by 2030.
China is in a weak negotiating position. They have a struggling domestic economy and need large export markets to try and keep unemployment down. If you're the country running a huge trade surplus, your trade partners have the leverage as they can cut your exports to them a lot more then you can in return.
USA has cut $200b of imports a year from China and China has cut $50b in return. That is how it goes. EU can do the same. The challenge the EU has is ability to act decisively.
The EU and China spent seven years negotiating a comprehensive trade agreement. The EU's trade team presented the result to the EU for their endorsement. The US intervened and outright said that the EU was not authorised to negotiate comprehensive trade agreements with China - those agreements were the sole prerogative of the US.
The EU agreed with the US position and abandoned the comprehensive agreement negotiated by its trade negotiators.
Now whenever Europe sends politicians to talk trade with China, China's first question is, "So, have you ratified that comprehensive agreement yet"? That single opening question has put Europe on the back foot in all subsequent trade discussions with China.
The EU and China has NEVER negotiated a comprehensive trade agreement, what they have negotiated was the comprehensive agreement on INVESTMENT. This was frozen after the parliament sanctioned Chinese officials involved in the Uyghur human rights violation, which I’m guessing you gonna deny never even happened because bots like you cant go against China.
beijing's a typical totalitarian bunker no less than during mao zedong. westerners were either stupid or mad to think that a totalitarian power (thoroughly deluded that it can decree reality and treat the slightest deficiency as treason) can be honestly engaged, let alone be made answerable. europe failed to protect itself against chinese aggression-by-overcapacity, and now it's paying the price of its own sunk-cost fallacy (which may have already grown into a "sunk-cost psychosis"), and will keep failing until it slams the door and welds it shut for good measure. until europe compels itself to sever itself from china, all talks with the bolshevik liars are just attempts to stall against a shockingly painful act (reindustrialisation) that european states must perform on their own selves. of course, beijing has an existential interest in that specific weakness of european political and economic elites, and seeks to feed it. hence it might cave, but only minimally
MoJoSo69 | 9 hours ago
EU saw, how US went about things with China only to dial back the tariff narrative as soon as China started to threaten supply chains, and thought I want a chunk of that humiliation pie that US had please...
azerty543 | 4 hours ago
I mean imports from china are lower than they have been in 15 years for the U.S. Its definitely cut back decisively.
Emotional_Goal9525 | 4 hours ago
Not really. Nobody isn't still making televisions in the US. There might be some country of origin washing going on, but fundamentally nothing has changed. Same seller, same buyer, same supply chain with just a detour extra steps between.
shinyxena | 3 hours ago
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Anything is possible with political will… but I don’t think Trump has convinced Washington it’s worth the pain. Next President might undo everything for an easy win against inflation.
5mao | 2 hours ago
Canada just put 50% tariffs on a bunch of american goods, so I can't even buy made in America anymore. It would literally be cheaper for me to buy Chinese goods from America than American made goods.
azerty543 | 3 hours ago
Yeah, the idea is to diversify the supply chain, not halt imports entirely. That country of origin washing isn't cheap and it gives a comparative advantage other places. Do you think the U.s has more leverage against a behemoth like china? or a bunch of smaller countries?
Hot_Pink_Unicorn | 4 hours ago
The US cut back significantly on Chinese imports, forcing China to dump more of its exports to the EU, which is why the EU is fighting back. China only has one leverage over the US, which is rare earth minerals, an issue that is being worked on and should be resolved by 2030.
ini0n | an hour ago
China is in a weak negotiating position. They have a struggling domestic economy and need large export markets to try and keep unemployment down. If you're the country running a huge trade surplus, your trade partners have the leverage as they can cut your exports to them a lot more then you can in return.
USA has cut $200b of imports a year from China and China has cut $50b in return. That is how it goes. EU can do the same. The challenge the EU has is ability to act decisively.
signherehereandhere | 9 hours ago
China is going for the classic; 'attack is the best defense'
Not very surprising considering their Wolf Warrior Diplomacy.
Europe is on route to finding its path as a world power independent of the US and China is in need of showing off it's strength.
Talqazar | 8 hours ago
EU started this fight, and believing China wouldn't respond is on-brand for them
bippos | 7 hours ago
It didn’t start shit? The eu literally opened a dialogue with China to resolve their problems when China decided to subsidise exports
ShootingPains | 7 hours ago
The EU and China spent seven years negotiating a comprehensive trade agreement. The EU's trade team presented the result to the EU for their endorsement. The US intervened and outright said that the EU was not authorised to negotiate comprehensive trade agreements with China - those agreements were the sole prerogative of the US.
The EU agreed with the US position and abandoned the comprehensive agreement negotiated by its trade negotiators.
Now whenever Europe sends politicians to talk trade with China, China's first question is, "So, have you ratified that comprehensive agreement yet"? That single opening question has put Europe on the back foot in all subsequent trade discussions with China.
bippos | 7 hours ago
The EU and China has NEVER negotiated a comprehensive trade agreement, what they have negotiated was the comprehensive agreement on INVESTMENT. This was frozen after the parliament sanctioned Chinese officials involved in the Uyghur human rights violation, which I’m guessing you gonna deny never even happened because bots like you cant go against China.
Now why do you lie and spread misinformation?
dxprep | 6 hours ago
NO! EU never ate its LEFT foot! They only ate its RIGHT foot! How DARE you spread the misinformatiooonn!!!
sarges_12gauge | 5 hours ago
I mean, if you’re wrong about the obvious top level, why should people trust you to be right about the underlying details and themes?
bippos | 4 hours ago
lol salty bot
June1994 | 6 hours ago
EU did, in fact, start shit.
bippos | 4 hours ago
Zero facts
June1994 | 2 hours ago
You’re not receptive to any. People like you don’t debate in good faith.
sicklyslick | 5 hours ago
the article literally says it:
>It [Chinese investigation] follows an investigation by the EU, opened in September, into polyvinyl chloride imports from countries including China.
pandaslovetigers | 6 hours ago
EU top diplomat Kaja Kallas calls China a ‘cancer’
ExerciseFickle8540 | 5 hours ago
The woman is a cancer and laughing stock on the world stage
pandaslovetigers | 4 hours ago
Can't disagree
bippos | 4 hours ago
Shes not wrong? Are we pretending Chinese companies/state don’t conduct industry espionage?
Emotional_Goal9525 | 4 hours ago
Are we pretending that american or french companies don't conduct industry espionage?
WorkerOk9794 | 2 hours ago
Good US propaganda bot lmao
herbb100 | 18 minutes ago
Good bot
bljujemvatrupecemleb | 10 hours ago
beijing's a typical totalitarian bunker no less than during mao zedong. westerners were either stupid or mad to think that a totalitarian power (thoroughly deluded that it can decree reality and treat the slightest deficiency as treason) can be honestly engaged, let alone be made answerable. europe failed to protect itself against chinese aggression-by-overcapacity, and now it's paying the price of its own sunk-cost fallacy (which may have already grown into a "sunk-cost psychosis"), and will keep failing until it slams the door and welds it shut for good measure. until europe compels itself to sever itself from china, all talks with the bolshevik liars are just attempts to stall against a shockingly painful act (reindustrialisation) that european states must perform on their own selves. of course, beijing has an existential interest in that specific weakness of european political and economic elites, and seeks to feed it. hence it might cave, but only minimally
uniyk | 5 hours ago
Talks just like your ID, a longwinded gibberish feigning medieval thinker's voice.