The Strait of Hormuz closure has cost Europe an extra $142 billion for the same energy it was already buying

245 points by diwalibonus 2 hours ago on reddit | 14 comments

Worth-Wonder-7386 | an hour ago

Energy dependance is costly. The countries that still are selling gas to Europe like the US or Norway do experience the other side of this, where they get more paid for delivering the same things. This makes other forms of energy more economical, which is how the market should work in this case. The issue is that the market is abd at handling such sudden shocks, but the Ukraine war should have been a warning to European countries.

[OP] diwalibonus | an hour ago

If they want oil and gas the options are

  • Russia(Putin who hates and blackmails Europe)

  • USA(Trump who hates and blackmails Europe)

  • Middle East(where there could be a new Forever War anytime)

What can they do?

Worldly-Charity-9737 | an hour ago

Buy from all three and hope for the best

youngishgeezer | 54 minutes ago

Double down on locally produced energy. Improve efficiency.

fa1afel | 47 minutes ago

Canada. Their crude is more expensive to refine, but they are actively looking for new trade partners. The infrastructure to do this does not exist and would take massive investment and significant time to build, but both sides of that might be willing. I believe there is interest in working out paper swaps as a shorter term option.

Euiop741852 | 51 minutes ago

They have a big gas field at Groningen, maybe look into reopening that

Worth-Wonder-7386 | 20 minutes ago

That is very unpopular for the people that live on top of it. The earthquakes and the cost for the government to reimburse people affected by them is the main reason why Netherland stopped operating it. Here is a good video that covers these reimbursements and the political side: https://youtu.be/e2gqBW0j-VU

fromkatain | 32 minutes ago

Best would be for europe to seize norways remaining oil and gas field for europe's international security and use their soveign fund to compensate rest of europe.

Counterpoint-4 | an hour ago

Didn't Putin do brilliantly at weakening Europe - amongst others. Unfortunately Russia seems to be near pauper status now. Will Putin carry on in his gilded castle or what? Poor Rusiia.