Oh no! Say it ain’t so!
If it ever gets out that a Walmart heir dared speak ill of anything this administration, where is Maga going to do all their shopping? Dollar tree only carries so much goods, and let’s keep it real, Saks Fifth Avenue is not an option for 99% of them
Christy Walton is amazing. She's donated millions to help democrats get elected, and she's the one who took out the full-page ad in the New York Times for the No Kings protest last year.
I think she is an ally. She is an heir to the Walmart fortune but does not sit on the board. She spends most of her money on the environment, education, and other meaningful pursuits for good.
To be fair, she inherited the path to billions. She’s doing better than most by her actions.
If I inherited a billion, I could easily just fuck off and live my dream nerd life. I’d have a fortress and I’d just be playing games, not caring about what happens to the working class.
Or I could be like her, and do things to help.
Edit to add: she doesn’t have direct control over walmart operations, nor is she a major stakeholder. If you have a billion invested, it’s bound to grow into more billions.
If I inherited a billion, I would donate $950 million to good causes today, and take the remaining $50M and still get to live my dream life and set my descendants up for financial freedom.
I would set up an endowment that gives only part of the interest for good causes, and education, and also repeat it for my descendants too. The principle is untouched and slowly grows.
Its breaking a certain dollar threshold you can just do everything with just interest and dividends.
I too am not understanding what’s the purity test she’s not passing. With so many asshole billionaires… May be a good 95% of them… The fact that she’s not paying millions to get Trump elected just so he gives her tax cuts and lets her pollute with immunity… Gotta take a win when you can get it.
Compare her actions to the heir of Publix, who spend her money bankrolling the stop the steal bullshit on January 6!
Its simple. If you have access to more than a billion dollars, there isn't any way possible you can be a good person, in any shape, fashion, or form. End of.
I mean, sure. Shes doing philanthropy with it. Let's ignore how that money was amassed in the first place. 🙄 im sure the warehouse workers enduring kidney disease from having to piss in bottles are real appreciative.
Saks isn’t doing so well right now, so they could be an option for everyone with Oscar de la Renta dresses at $7 (but I’m pretty sure these are sold out at this point, there was a huge liquidation sale).
you know, there might be some of that. But I don’t think that’s the motivation and I’m not sure that’s a huge factor for Walmart. Working at Walmart is not like working as an undocumented on some farm or some construction site where they pay you cash, and off the books and all that stuff.
Of course billionaires want an unlimited supply of cheap labor that's easily controlled, won't push for unionization, etc. Same thing has happened in Canada. Liberal government sold out to big business and mass imported cheap labor.
We need an immigration system that makes sense. But that will never happen until congress and politics in general are not bought out by private interests. End lobbying now.
The U.S. Constitution, primarily through the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments' Due Process Clauses, guarantees that all "persons" within U.S. borders—regardless of immigration or citizenship status—cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without fair legal processes. This includes the right to a hearing before an immigration judge to challenge removal, notice of charges, and the right to present evidence, though it is not a "trial" in a criminal court.
There needs to be accountability for unconstitutional acts from federal “law enforcement”
Immigrants coming to the US and doing the jobs we dont want to do, while sending money home and trying to build a better life is a very very old pattern and one that had led to better lives for millions.
Who says they are jobs Americans don't want to do?
They don't want to do them for a pittance - pay $100/hour of farm job and you'll see Americans lining up for them.
Funny how you think it's a liberal government thing when Reagan and his ilk started the whole offshoring movement.. and Republicans voted down a bipartisan immigration bill after Trump told them it'd hurt his chances
Compare deportations of Obama vs Trump.
Plenty of liberal governments not securing the border, too but lol pretending it's a one sided issue
Also all the red states/farmers are the one with incredibly low wages, lax worker protections, etc so they can continue paying people like shit. Americans in the fields for $8/hr? And these red farmers now also complaining about not having enough migrant labor not scared shitless with ICE running around.
tbh, those farmers needs to wall up their land (and not a log fence, but a brick wall) and provide housing which will solve the scared shitless problem
Of course people like the Waltons have an ulterior motive for making this argument, but it's still the right argument to make so I'm not going to complain too much.
So are you pro-mass deportations and stopping immigration to the US? Or occupying some weird middle ground where ICE is bad, but also immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to access US labor markets because [something something billionaires]?
I know it may be hard to conceive but not every billionaire has a secret evil agenda. Occasionally they are good human beings that happen to be chronically successful or they were born into it. In this case she married a chronically successful individual who died and now she has his wealth.
>Profiled by Condé Nast Portfolio magazine in The Giving Index, she is ranked as the highest female philanthropist according to the amount she gives as a percentage of her wealth. At a then estimated $16.3 billion net worth, she contributed a total of $3.5 billion cumulatively between 2002 and 2006.[7]
> cheap labor that's easily controlled, won't push for unionization
Wouldn't making their labor more expensive (through i.e. minimum wages that are significantly higher than average wages for US citizens) and making them join "immigrants union" that protects their rights be the better way of fighting illegal immigration?
Oh yeah, the province is broken lol. Liberal government mass imported millions and millions of uneducated immigrants (and just enough rich ones) at the behest of big corps like Loblaws. All those same corps now strictly hire Indian. The Indian managers only hire Indian. The Indian landlords only rent to indians (bedrooms fits 3-4 per room). And that isn't close to the worst of it.
The entire housing market is now structured around 3 generations of Indians all working to pay 1 mortgage. Shit is a joke lol.
How much is someone working at Walmart supposed to be paid? What level of formal education is absolutely necessary to accomplish the tasks of the positions in their stores and DCs? Sixth grade? Maybe eighth? Here in NY, Cuomo, who has never started, managed or run a billion dollar enterprise, mandated that the simple act of showing up with a pulse is magically worth $17.50. What’s the point of investing four or more uncompensated years into a six figure education to make $40-50,000 at the start of your career if a Walmart associate or an Amazon driver is given $36,400?
Anyone working a full-time job should be able to afford at a minimum shelter, food, and decent health-care. If you disagree with that statement, tell me where grocery clerks and delivery drivers are supposed to come from when they're too busy dying or straining our social support and medical resources.
I don't actually live in NY, but I have my doubts that $36k is enough to cover that; if I'm right, then the answer isn't to decrease low-training wages, but to make positions requiring a college degree more lucrative.
Also, colleges need to stop scamming their students. Most higher education is not worth anywhere near 6-figures; that is just wasteful greed.
But the world is run by rich bastards, so they'll continue to make the middle-class oppress the lower-class instead of us realizing the real issue. José the illegal immigrant is not the one skyrocketing gas prices or otherwise tanking the economy right now.
Because we're at a point in our history/lives where we can afford to make those around us have at least decent lives from a job. And by decent, being able to rent, afford health care, and afford food. If you have a company that can't survive unless the people working there are in misery, it's not really a functional company.
The difference between 36,400 and 40,000 is still huge. Having an extra 10% gives you a lot of options and in 5 years, that spread isn't going to be 10%.
Mostly, this is nothing more than companies compressing wages and requiring a hell of a lot more from an entry level employee, even if you say it's a 6th grade education I'm guessing if you brought someone from the 1950's and dropped them in a walmart they would freak the fuck out. Because the job is extremely technical, with a lot of computer knowledge and trouble shooting skills even for basic tasks these days. However we've just become accustomed to that and call it a simpleton job, because everyone appears to have skill set now.
If the value of my labor to my employer is $10/hour and the state artificially, for political benefit, raises my pay to $17.50, why would any employer add the costs of PTO, health insurance, etc? And how valuable is earning a job with good benefits if everyone is eligible for paid vacation, sick days, healthcare, education and more? People who invest time, effort and money to education want the maximum ROI. Those returns are seriously diminished when others obtain the same benefits or working conditions.
Problem is that its the government's job to help lower the cost of living....... but what most of that money is spent in is doing the opposite, so yea $17.50/hr.
What Article or Amendment says that? Where is that written in the US Code? Until FDR strong armed SCOTUS, wage and labor laws were unconstitutional. Or, is tampering with the Court only bad when the other side does it?
Sorry I dont mean it to be a trick question or rant.... but just good leading the country, and managing the economy via planning and proper spending.
Too much "interests" which kinda stretches the focus of the president and capital hill to really do anything but screw up the country, and sometimes they have to do it which makes it worse. But yea your latter question is kinda proving that is the more often the case =(
They’re deporting or arresting their entire work force. Don’t think she’s complaining because it’s the right thing to do, it just happens that she’s personally getting inconvenienced by all the arrests.
I was just reading an interesting article about how much more generous, civic-minded, and honest billionaires are compared to a person of average wealth. So, if a billionaire says a problem is serious... well, then... it must be serious.
OffSidesByALot | 7 hours ago
Oh no! Say it ain’t so! If it ever gets out that a Walmart heir dared speak ill of anything this administration, where is Maga going to do all their shopping? Dollar tree only carries so much goods, and let’s keep it real, Saks Fifth Avenue is not an option for 99% of them
4PurpleRain | 7 hours ago
Target wants MAGA. 🤮
desertkayaker | 7 hours ago
Christy Walton is amazing. She's donated millions to help democrats get elected, and she's the one who took out the full-page ad in the New York Times for the No Kings protest last year.
Leinheart | 6 hours ago
Still a billionaire. Not anyone's friend or ally.
kent_eh | 6 hours ago
Its hard to fault someone for how their parents made their money.
I prefer to judge people on their own actions.
Anonymouse-C0ward | 5 hours ago
She could always put her actual money where her mouth is, instead of making token donations.
Google suggests her net worth is $19.9B.
Using back of the napkin math, at ~5% asset growth (conservative) she’s earning an additional $1B/year.
That’s over $2.7M per day, every day of the year, or $113,584 per hour, 24 hours a day.
She’s supporting good causes, sure. Just like if I find a quarter on the street, I’ll put it in the Salvation Army donation jar (or whatever).
When someone’s capability is so much beyond what she is actually doing, can we really say that she’s an ally?
With great power comes great responsibility, each according to their ability, and such…
desertkayaker | 6 hours ago
I think she is an ally. She is an heir to the Walmart fortune but does not sit on the board. She spends most of her money on the environment, education, and other meaningful pursuits for good.
SinigangCaldereta | 6 hours ago
To be fair, she inherited the path to billions. She’s doing better than most by her actions.
If I inherited a billion, I could easily just fuck off and live my dream nerd life. I’d have a fortress and I’d just be playing games, not caring about what happens to the working class.
Or I could be like her, and do things to help.
Edit to add: she doesn’t have direct control over walmart operations, nor is she a major stakeholder. If you have a billion invested, it’s bound to grow into more billions.
Anonymouse-C0ward | 5 hours ago
If I inherited a billion, I would donate $950 million to good causes today, and take the remaining $50M and still get to live my dream life and set my descendants up for financial freedom.
Zef-Daytrade | 43 minutes ago
I would set up an endowment that gives only part of the interest for good causes, and education, and also repeat it for my descendants too. The principle is untouched and slowly grows.
Its breaking a certain dollar threshold you can just do everything with just interest and dividends.
OffSidesByALot | 5 hours ago
I too am not understanding what’s the purity test she’s not passing. With so many asshole billionaires… May be a good 95% of them… The fact that she’s not paying millions to get Trump elected just so he gives her tax cuts and lets her pollute with immunity… Gotta take a win when you can get it. Compare her actions to the heir of Publix, who spend her money bankrolling the stop the steal bullshit on January 6!
Leinheart | 4 hours ago
Its simple. If you have access to more than a billion dollars, there isn't any way possible you can be a good person, in any shape, fashion, or form. End of.
OffSidesByALot | 4 hours ago
Yeah, I know what you mean. McKenzie Bezos is a total bitch with all those billions she gave away. 🙄
Leinheart | 4 hours ago
I mean, sure. Shes doing philanthropy with it. Let's ignore how that money was amassed in the first place. 🙄 im sure the warehouse workers enduring kidney disease from having to piss in bottles are real appreciative.
corte11 | 4 hours ago
I disagree
Leinheart | 4 hours ago
How is following every comment i make to harass me through best possible use of your time?
corte11 | 4 hours ago
Philadelphia (feminine voice)
allis_in_chains | 7 hours ago
Saks isn’t doing so well right now, so they could be an option for everyone with Oscar de la Renta dresses at $7 (but I’m pretty sure these are sold out at this point, there was a huge liquidation sale).
OffSidesByALot | 7 hours ago
That is true. I should’ve went with target 😉🤣
StBlandine7 | 7 hours ago
*heir
OffSidesByALot | 7 hours ago
OK… Fixed the AutoCorrect 👍
Stepfordhusband69 | 6 hours ago
Is it possible she is doing this because she wants her cheap labor back?
OffSidesByALot | 6 hours ago
you know, there might be some of that. But I don’t think that’s the motivation and I’m not sure that’s a huge factor for Walmart. Working at Walmart is not like working as an undocumented on some farm or some construction site where they pay you cash, and off the books and all that stuff.
Jalapenoplanter | 7 hours ago
Good. I have no love for the waltons or billionaires. But everyone should be doing what they can to stop these concentration camps.
And billionaires can do a hell of a lot more than you or I
anrwlias | 6 hours ago
Billionaires are not going to save us. Billionaires are how we got to this spot in the first place. They are, fundamentally, bad for the planet.
SanDiegoDude | 6 hours ago
She mad they're cutting into her workforce. Don't attribute grace to these vampires, they don't deserve it.
Jalapenoplanter | 6 hours ago
I don’t care how selfish or evil her motivation, I want to close our concentration camps and free the people.
I am happy to vote to tax her at 100% next chance I get
No_Cell6708 | 8 hours ago
Of course billionaires want an unlimited supply of cheap labor that's easily controlled, won't push for unionization, etc. Same thing has happened in Canada. Liberal government sold out to big business and mass imported cheap labor.
HotResponsibility829 | 8 hours ago
This, but we shouldn’t have “detainee’s”.
We need an immigration system that makes sense. But that will never happen until congress and politics in general are not bought out by private interests. End lobbying now.
ScoffersGonnaScoff | 6 hours ago
The U.S. Constitution, primarily through the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments' Due Process Clauses, guarantees that all "persons" within U.S. borders—regardless of immigration or citizenship status—cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property without fair legal processes. This includes the right to a hearing before an immigration judge to challenge removal, notice of charges, and the right to present evidence, though it is not a "trial" in a criminal court.
There needs to be accountability for unconstitutional acts from federal “law enforcement”
Hilda_aka_Math | 7 hours ago
i don’t know. i thought her ad was really good. https://forhonorintegrity.com
Zepcleanerfan | 7 hours ago
Immigrants coming to the US and doing the jobs we dont want to do, while sending money home and trying to build a better life is a very very old pattern and one that had led to better lives for millions.
Ateist | 6 hours ago
Who says they are jobs Americans don't want to do?
They don't want to do them for a pittance - pay $100/hour of farm job and you'll see Americans lining up for them.
Zepcleanerfan | 2 hours ago
True. But that's not gonna happen.
voiceOfHoomanity | 7 hours ago
Funny how you think it's a liberal government thing when Reagan and his ilk started the whole offshoring movement.. and Republicans voted down a bipartisan immigration bill after Trump told them it'd hurt his chances
Compare deportations of Obama vs Trump.
Plenty of liberal governments not securing the border, too but lol pretending it's a one sided issue
Also all the red states/farmers are the one with incredibly low wages, lax worker protections, etc so they can continue paying people like shit. Americans in the fields for $8/hr? And these red farmers now also complaining about not having enough migrant labor not scared shitless with ICE running around.
Zef-Daytrade | 36 minutes ago
tbh, those farmers needs to wall up their land (and not a log fence, but a brick wall) and provide housing which will solve the scared shitless problem
Xeynon | 7 hours ago
Of course people like the Waltons have an ulterior motive for making this argument, but it's still the right argument to make so I'm not going to complain too much.
Mat_At_Home | 7 hours ago
So are you pro-mass deportations and stopping immigration to the US? Or occupying some weird middle ground where ICE is bad, but also immigrants shouldn’t be allowed to access US labor markets because [something something billionaires]?
LukeStuckenhymer | 7 hours ago
Also, occam’s razor: Cheap labor shops at Walmart.
GentlemenHODL | 6 hours ago
I know it may be hard to conceive but not every billionaire has a secret evil agenda. Occasionally they are good human beings that happen to be chronically successful or they were born into it. In this case she married a chronically successful individual who died and now she has his wealth.
>Profiled by Condé Nast Portfolio magazine in The Giving Index, she is ranked as the highest female philanthropist according to the amount she gives as a percentage of her wealth. At a then estimated $16.3 billion net worth, she contributed a total of $3.5 billion cumulatively between 2002 and 2006.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Walton
Try not to live your life with pure bitterness.
Also see Chuck Feeney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Feeney
Ateist | 6 hours ago
> cheap labor that's easily controlled, won't push for unionization
Wouldn't making their labor more expensive (through i.e. minimum wages that are significantly higher than average wages for US citizens) and making them join "immigrants union" that protects their rights be the better way of fighting illegal immigration?
RobinReborn | 7 hours ago
Not all immigrants are cheap labor. And cheap labor doesn't just benefit billionaires, it benefits everybody.
No one is selling out anyone. Immigrants (of all kinds) are good for the economy, there is a consensus that is true among economists.
bannedforL1fe | 7 hours ago
I went to Ontario like 15 years ago, and went again for a few days last year. I couldn't believe how many Indians there are now.
No_Cell6708 | 7 hours ago
Oh yeah, the province is broken lol. Liberal government mass imported millions and millions of uneducated immigrants (and just enough rich ones) at the behest of big corps like Loblaws. All those same corps now strictly hire Indian. The Indian managers only hire Indian. The Indian landlords only rent to indians (bedrooms fits 3-4 per room). And that isn't close to the worst of it.
The entire housing market is now structured around 3 generations of Indians all working to pay 1 mortgage. Shit is a joke lol.
RedditReader4031 | 7 hours ago
How much is someone working at Walmart supposed to be paid? What level of formal education is absolutely necessary to accomplish the tasks of the positions in their stores and DCs? Sixth grade? Maybe eighth? Here in NY, Cuomo, who has never started, managed or run a billion dollar enterprise, mandated that the simple act of showing up with a pulse is magically worth $17.50. What’s the point of investing four or more uncompensated years into a six figure education to make $40-50,000 at the start of your career if a Walmart associate or an Amazon driver is given $36,400?
TrickyAudin | 7 hours ago
Anyone working a full-time job should be able to afford at a minimum shelter, food, and decent health-care. If you disagree with that statement, tell me where grocery clerks and delivery drivers are supposed to come from when they're too busy dying or straining our social support and medical resources.
I don't actually live in NY, but I have my doubts that $36k is enough to cover that; if I'm right, then the answer isn't to decrease low-training wages, but to make positions requiring a college degree more lucrative.
Also, colleges need to stop scamming their students. Most higher education is not worth anywhere near 6-figures; that is just wasteful greed.
But the world is run by rich bastards, so they'll continue to make the middle-class oppress the lower-class instead of us realizing the real issue. José the illegal immigrant is not the one skyrocketing gas prices or otherwise tanking the economy right now.
pkennedy | 7 hours ago
Because we're at a point in our history/lives where we can afford to make those around us have at least decent lives from a job. And by decent, being able to rent, afford health care, and afford food. If you have a company that can't survive unless the people working there are in misery, it's not really a functional company.
The difference between 36,400 and 40,000 is still huge. Having an extra 10% gives you a lot of options and in 5 years, that spread isn't going to be 10%.
Mostly, this is nothing more than companies compressing wages and requiring a hell of a lot more from an entry level employee, even if you say it's a 6th grade education I'm guessing if you brought someone from the 1950's and dropped them in a walmart they would freak the fuck out. Because the job is extremely technical, with a lot of computer knowledge and trouble shooting skills even for basic tasks these days. However we've just become accustomed to that and call it a simpleton job, because everyone appears to have skill set now.
RedditReader4031 | 7 hours ago
If the value of my labor to my employer is $10/hour and the state artificially, for political benefit, raises my pay to $17.50, why would any employer add the costs of PTO, health insurance, etc? And how valuable is earning a job with good benefits if everyone is eligible for paid vacation, sick days, healthcare, education and more? People who invest time, effort and money to education want the maximum ROI. Those returns are seriously diminished when others obtain the same benefits or working conditions.
PerfectZeong | 7 hours ago
Maybe if being a Wal-Mart employee paid X, other companies would be forced to raise their pay?
Zef-Daytrade | 38 minutes ago
Problem is that its the government's job to help lower the cost of living....... but what most of that money is spent in is doing the opposite, so yea $17.50/hr.
RedditReader4031 | 34 minutes ago
What Article or Amendment says that? Where is that written in the US Code? Until FDR strong armed SCOTUS, wage and labor laws were unconstitutional. Or, is tampering with the Court only bad when the other side does it?
Zef-Daytrade | 29 minutes ago
Sorry I dont mean it to be a trick question or rant.... but just good leading the country, and managing the economy via planning and proper spending.
Too much "interests" which kinda stretches the focus of the president and capital hill to really do anything but screw up the country, and sometimes they have to do it which makes it worse. But yea your latter question is kinda proving that is the more often the case =(
Glum-Breadfruit-6421 | 6 hours ago
They’re deporting or arresting their entire work force. Don’t think she’s complaining because it’s the right thing to do, it just happens that she’s personally getting inconvenienced by all the arrests.
markth_wi | 6 hours ago
I see one of the hyper-rich folks have gone off-message.....
Great to see, not great to realize she's outnumbered and outfunded by just the two or three oligarchs hovering around the president nakedly.
NihiloZero | 6 hours ago
I was just reading an interesting article about how much more generous, civic-minded, and honest billionaires are compared to a person of average wealth. So, if a billionaire says a problem is serious... well, then... it must be serious.