Because you want to mock the tools you are going to use in production locally or in CI. Really good reasons to not totally change what you are doing in your app between environments.
The same argument can be made for the other side: the customer can also trivially mount the S3 bucket as a filesystem, if you decide to ship the tool with filesystem support instead.
But is that really something you do in an enterprise application?
What if you write a file with the same name from two servers to the bucket? What about latency? What if the connection / mount fails, how would the application even notice?
Yup, same. We use RustFS in a production system with no issues. We switched over after MinIO license changes and after evaluating a few different stacks.
We have heavy concurrent usage, and we haven't had a single issue yet.
I did try seaweedfs ~half a year ago and I had issues with setting up users through terraform module (if I recall correctly, users endpoint were not correctly responding on delete), and lack of S3 expiry rules (you needed to use seaweedfs configuration or API for that). Other than that, I was pretty happy with it.
I've been using it for local development for a while now. My goal was to replace MinIO, which I could run and configure with a single Docker command. VersityGW works just as well for that.
> It's also nice that it translates directly to the file system.
On the other hand, this means that it's bound by filesystem naming rules - e.g. you can't have an object named "abc/", or a pair of objects named "a" and "a/b".
I use that aswell since it can be used and expose a posix filesystem. This is helpful when we want to add s3 to existing storage like a nas. (Well we had some problems with it in the past tough)
Sadly most new projects do not offer posix anymore.
Filestash (https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash) has a s3 gateway plugin that I made. It proxy the S3 traffic to any downstream storage: SFTP, FTP, another S3, SMB, NFS, IPFS, ...
Almost went past looking at this option, it has a far bigger ecosystem of both storage and auth plugins and otherwise looks to be more mature than I might have guessed from the passing comment.
How does that handle concurrency (e.g. updates being atomic, conditional PUT) and data consistency after a crash? Getting that right over generic backends sounds challenging, to say the least.
The title is 'for single node local S3' but what they actually mean is 'for minio-compatibility', which is an entirely different question.
When I abandoned minio a year or so ago, I also surveyed the options, and settled on Garage. It lacked the GUI, but felt about the same complexity as minio. Perhaps a smidge more complexity, as I moved to 3-node and 5-node separate instances of garage, running as containers under Nomad.
I don't recall it being onerous, but I was looking for some basic S3-alike capabilities, not just minio-alike.
(How many people set out to build an object storage system with some number of AWS S3 primitives, but primarily try to match a third-party proprietary system's foibles?)
> So, Garage does work, but gosh…it is not just a drop-in replacement in terms of code changes.
I think in terms of actual code that uses local S3, it pretty much was a drop-in replacement. (I have multiple distribution/registry, Grafana Loki / Mimir, influx3 - all backing onto my object storage system, and the config changes there were modest - key+secret, and url - just as you'd expect.)
Ethnicity never mattered (other than for the people that think too many white people are doing something). It's culture, in particular government ties, that are the worry with China.
In the decades that open-source projects have existed on GitHub—even those backed by the Chinese government—there has never been an instance of them containing spyware; conversely, we frequently see NSA hacking tools exploiting open-source projects to launch massive cyberattacks and cause data breaches. Reality isn't like American movies where Americans are always the heroes; in fact, those GIs are usually the ones doing the invading. To me, your statement sounds like a resident living under Nazi rule telling everyone, "There's actually a pretty good project over on the Allied side—if you choose to believe it."
> 2026-03-02: Ruohang Feng has forked MinIO to pgsty/minio and is promising to maintain a stable, CVE-patched, distribution.
This is what I went with.
I use it in end to end tests as an S3 simulator that starts and stops instantly and reads & writes to a local directory, - as you'd expect it's great in that role. No complaints. Given the fork's maintainer puts their real name on it & stakes their reputation, you'd assume it can be trusted - but my use case is simpler than most.
This is what I use. I had a minio instance that was replaced flawlessly with silo. This is an excellent project and needs more traction. All existing minio users must switch to Silo ASAP.
I had switched some projects to SeaweedFS's Docker image. It worked well. This is good to know there is a successor open source project that would require no code changes to use. Will evaluate.
It's nice to hear about other products, but OP made it sound like Minio disappeared and was not an option. Neither are true. Yes the company moved on but the old source is sitting there and that version is pretty good as-is. We're still using it in prod, no issues for us. The old container images are floating around and you're free to copy them to wherever.
If you need support or newer features, fork it or use ^ this fork.
It's nice, I am just afraid of the pace Chris Lu can maintain with LLM assistance. Too many features are added in each new release, no stabilization time at all.
Running Sentry on prem, I had to swap out their default SeaweedFS setup for Garage because the former kept failing under concurrent writes. I tried digging around for a bit, but found that the swap was easier and faster, Garage has also worked great for single node use cases (e.g. tested up to around 10 TB of data). I still think that SeaweedFS is a cool project, might have been a config issue or something, wasn’t worth tweaking.
The setup for Garage sucks, especially cause their Docker image doesn’t automatically create keys or buckets and permissions for you like for example various RDBMS images do. Doing that the first time manually was annoying, but their docs are pretty nice and an AI agent can build you your own Docker image with custom init in about 15 minutes.
Worst with it I’ve had were issues with hooking up WinSCP to it directly to browse saved satellite data, initial connections would hang for some reason, not sure what the problem was either.
Also used Zenko but kinda got the feeling that the project wasn’t as healthy and straight up felt abandoned (e.g. the outdated container images and such), though there is some activity.
SeaweedFS performance should be the fastest. Please create an issue if there are any performance issues with SeaweedFS, or you see it is slower than any alternatives.
Not without snapshot currently. I guess I could collect all writes in the (optional) WAL file while a backup is running, then the files would be consistent.
Is there any "local"/minio-esque object store properly implements the full conditional GET/PUT/DELETE spec, ETag, etc.? I have struggled to find this in the past.
Awesome, I will take a look! We need something for our end-to-end tests at work that we can use and trivially spin up buckets for millions of tests in parallel.
I wouldnt use Garage for Iceberg, Iceberg relies on conditional PUT working correctly, while Garage is eventually consistent, so they don't provide the correct guarantee.
I run Scality S3 (Zenko Cloudserver in the blig) since about 2 years and it is quite capable and frequently updated. Just make sure to point it to the latest Github Registry, not the outdated Docker.com one.
I had previously used seaweedfs, which has more moving parts but seems more feature-rich. It was overkill for a homelab, so I went to garage.
Garage is very stable, but the metadata engine / file MUST live on NVMe. Otherwise it gets slow on small files. It also lacks features like per bucket retention settings and stuff. It really is "just" a S3 bucket.
Was the backend for an archiving service and we found it to work well on baremetal machines and seamlessly integrated with existing services that used the S3 api.
This was on an internal network so YMMV when it comes to running on the open internet especially with the CVE mentioned in the post.
- Filesystem backend
- Encrypted S3 backend
- Compressed S3 backend (Saving a ton of money here)
- Cross backend replication
- Full IAM
- Full GUI with OIDC auth
I'm still disappointed, that there is no S3 CNCF sponsored process. It seems to be such an important part of the cloud native ecosystem, every big use case needs some way to store blobs of data.
But no, I'm also not about to start one or try to make something like SeaweedFS a community supported project that has a chance to be picked up by the CNCF, so I'm part of the problem.
Ceph is pretty much the standard, I think. Very complex to manage, though, but that might just be necessary complexity for a distributed storage system.
Does anyone here have experience using some of the newer S3 family API features like locking with any of the self-hostable options? After reading about celld's Litestream + locking on S3 approach (https://github.com/denoland/celld) I got curious about that style of deployment as a way to consolidate small tools so their state is just centralize S3 buckets, but from a bit of reading support for the features like locking is uneven.
Its not locking, it needs consistent conditional PUT. Minio did have that, Rustfs does, Garage is eventually consistent so explicitly does not support it correctly.
I ended up just getting Claude to hack together a compatible-enough S3 thing for my self-hosted Sourcehut releases. It took like 45 minutes and it seems to work well enough (though I haven't done exhaustive tests because "good enough is good enough" for this).
The S3 API is pretty well-documented so getting something compatible with it is trivial for modern AI tools.
The recent RustFS CVE has driven some people away from RustFS, based on comments from the community.
For those who had similar past experiences:
Do events like this actually affect the long-term popularity and development?
I've dabbled in both Garage and RustFS. Both are good but IMO flawed.
Garage is good but has weird tooling and a terrible searchable term. You'll receive lots of garage doors and electrical gate results when searching for issues with it.
The biggest problem with Garage is the metadata on an sqlite. If you have a single file and that sqlite corrupts then all your data is unaddressable and treated as pile of anonymous blocks. If you have multiple servers you can rebuild the metadata but if you have only one server you REALLY need to make sure that file is backed up.
So if you use S3 as a backup you have to keep a backup of your backup.
RustFS is closer to Minio, but I hate the way they log stuff. They basically use journald as a metric database dumping json formatted lines about library calls and how long they took. Its hard to make sense of those logs. Its the kind of log not meant to be human readable but to render on a dashboard.
Why not just publish these as a prometheus endpoint?
Also high CPU usage for no reason. I also noticed RustFS constantly trashing disk and keeping 10% CPU usage while looping some health check I have no idea how to disable (I've tried RUSTFS_SCANNER_ENABLED=false and others with no results). And of course lots of json metrics on journald.
I personally prefer garage because my backup box sit at my office and I like not needing to listen to HDD sounds all day every day while Rustfs loops its health check.
sdcfgy | 22 hours ago
xienze | 22 hours ago
Tostino | 22 hours ago
drdexebtjl | 16 hours ago
Mocks do that.
If you want to not totally change what you are doing in your app between environments, point it at an actual S3 bucket in all environments.
wink | 22 hours ago
This post does not even mention the S3 API as a replacement for a filesystem.
Mashimo | 21 hours ago
drdexebtjl | 16 hours ago
Mashimo | 3 hours ago
But is that really something you do in an enterprise application?
What if you write a file with the same name from two servers to the bucket? What about latency? What if the connection / mount fails, how would the application even notice?
Never tried it, I don't think it fits our needs.
bartekpacia | 20 hours ago
jonenst | 20 hours ago
- very flat structures: storing hundred of thousands of files in a single directory will fail
- designed for local disks and NFS is a leaky abstraction:
probably many more reasonssdcfgy | 20 hours ago
I wouldn’t say this if I hadn’t done this on the PB scale. On a file system! With billions of files!
People are blind to anything other than shitty cloud APIs now. It’s depressing.
nijave | 19 hours ago
Sometimes I also want a smaller version for when I don't need that performance but don't want multiple implementations of storage backends
Edit: before someone says NVMe, highly available across 3 fault domains
pveierland | 22 hours ago
johntash | 10 hours ago
prologic | 22 hours ago
rugma | 22 hours ago
markab21 | 20 hours ago
We have heavy concurrent usage, and we haven't had a single issue yet.
sigmonsays | 13 hours ago
SSLy | 22 hours ago
8fingerlouie | 21 hours ago
If we're just talking verifying S3 connectivity, simply spinning up "rclone serve s3" appears to be the simplest solution.
dalton74 | 22 hours ago
aljarry | 22 hours ago
chrislusf | 12 hours ago
(I work on SeaweedFS)
rrhjm53270 | 22 hours ago
PunchyHamster | 21 hours ago
On flipside the project maintainers react very fast on any bug I submitted and it's fixed pretty quickly, so not really complaint, just warning
c0balt | 22 hours ago
markusw | 21 hours ago
nodoodles | 21 hours ago
Also discussions few months ago here when healthcheks.io switched to it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47806348
swills | 21 hours ago
erebe__ | 18 hours ago
https://github.com/versity/versitygw/#static-website-hosting
pstadler | 17 hours ago
catdog | 15 hours ago
duskwuff | 2 hours ago
On the other hand, this means that it's bound by filesystem naming rules - e.g. you can't have an object named "abc/", or a pair of objects named "a" and "a/b".
merb | 15 hours ago
Sadly most new projects do not offer posix anymore.
de6u99er | 22 hours ago
https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/
earth-tattoo | 21 hours ago
pritambaral | 21 hours ago
weikju | 21 hours ago
pritambaral | 19 hours ago
weikju | 19 hours ago
mickael-kerjean | 21 hours ago
lathiat | 19 hours ago
CodesInChaos | 17 hours ago
Jedd | 21 hours ago
The title is 'for single node local S3' but what they actually mean is 'for minio-compatibility', which is an entirely different question.
When I abandoned minio a year or so ago, I also surveyed the options, and settled on Garage. It lacked the GUI, but felt about the same complexity as minio. Perhaps a smidge more complexity, as I moved to 3-node and 5-node separate instances of garage, running as containers under Nomad.
I don't recall it being onerous, but I was looking for some basic S3-alike capabilities, not just minio-alike.
(How many people set out to build an object storage system with some number of AWS S3 primitives, but primarily try to match a third-party proprietary system's foibles?)
> So, Garage does work, but gosh…it is not just a drop-in replacement in terms of code changes.
I think in terms of actual code that uses local S3, it pretty much was a drop-in replacement. (I have multiple distribution/registry, Grafana Loki / Mimir, influx3 - all backing onto my object storage system, and the config changes there were modest - key+secret, and url - just as you'd expect.)
stevefan1999 | 21 hours ago
cyanydeez | 21 hours ago
philipallstar | 21 hours ago
almaight | 19 hours ago
paulryanrogers | 18 hours ago
cadamsdotcom | 21 hours ago
This is what I went with.
I use it in end to end tests as an S3 simulator that starts and stops instantly and reads & writes to a local directory, - as you'd expect it's great in that role. No complaints. Given the fork's maintainer puts their real name on it & stakes their reputation, you'd assume it can be trusted - but my use case is simpler than most.
samgranieri | 20 hours ago
nacnud | 20 hours ago
> Renamed from pgsty/minio to pgsty/silo, default branch master → main, on 2026-08-06
spapas82 | 19 hours ago
rietta | 18 hours ago
I had switched some projects to SeaweedFS's Docker image. It worked well. This is good to know there is a successor open source project that would require no code changes to use. Will evaluate.
imglorp | 17 hours ago
It's nice to hear about other products, but OP made it sound like Minio disappeared and was not an option. Neither are true. Yes the company moved on but the old source is sitting there and that version is pretty good as-is. We're still using it in prod, no issues for us. The old container images are floating around and you're free to copy them to wherever.
If you need support or newer features, fork it or use ^ this fork.
v3ss0n | 21 hours ago
orthoxerox | 19 hours ago
chrislusf | 12 hours ago
Actually, AI does help a lot to setup all variations of testing scenarios and uncover edge case bugs. It's more helpful than vibes.
And you do need to be systematic to examine AI generated code. There are no shortcut for it.
hn9zmdcaou | 21 hours ago
KronisLV | 20 hours ago
The setup for Garage sucks, especially cause their Docker image doesn’t automatically create keys or buckets and permissions for you like for example various RDBMS images do. Doing that the first time manually was annoying, but their docs are pretty nice and an AI agent can build you your own Docker image with custom init in about 15 minutes.
Worst with it I’ve had were issues with hooking up WinSCP to it directly to browse saved satellite data, initial connections would hang for some reason, not sure what the problem was either.
Also used Zenko but kinda got the feeling that the project wasn’t as healthy and straight up felt abandoned (e.g. the outdated container images and such), though there is some activity.
chrislusf | 12 hours ago
(I work on SeaweedFS)
greazy | 2 hours ago
Do you have plans to improve the docs? Some of the info I needed was inside GitHub issues / discussions.
Overall very cool project. One of these days I'll reach out about enterprise support for my usecase.
brinepot | 20 hours ago
paulryanrogers | 19 hours ago
uroni | 20 hours ago
One notable thing is that compared to MinIO (and others) it does not store the objects as individual files. I also have DuckDB directly integrated.
The readme has a comparison to Garage, seaweedfs, RustFS and Ceph.
cuu508 | 20 hours ago
Is there a safe way to make backups of the index.lmdb and data0 files without stopping the server?
uroni | 19 hours ago
cannonpalms | 20 hours ago
uroni | 13 hours ago
cannonpalms | 6 hours ago
justincormack | 20 hours ago
Helmut10001 | 20 hours ago
apexalpha | 19 hours ago
Garage is very stable, but the metadata engine / file MUST live on NVMe. Otherwise it gets slow on small files. It also lacks features like per bucket retention settings and stuff. It really is "just" a S3 bucket.
jszymborski | 19 hours ago
chrislusf | 12 hours ago
jszymborski | 10 hours ago
nijave | 19 hours ago
otabdeveloper4 | 18 hours ago
No thanks.
alexpotato | 19 hours ago
Was the backend for an archiving service and we found it to work well on baremetal machines and seamlessly integrated with existing services that used the S3 api.
This was on an internal network so YMMV when it comes to running on the open internet especially with the CVE mentioned in the post.
rch | 14 hours ago
https://devenv.sh/services/rustfs/
nater5000 | 19 hours ago
firesteelrain | 19 hours ago
crtasm | 18 hours ago
tempest_ | 18 hours ago
When I tried minio 5 years ago it choked pretty quick on storing billions of objects
gclawes | 18 hours ago
sscarduzio | 17 hours ago
- Filesystem backend - Encrypted S3 backend - Compressed S3 backend (Saving a ton of money here) - Cross backend replication - Full IAM - Full GUI with OIDC auth
Kwpolska | 14 hours ago
- slop copy [1]
[0] https://github.com/beshu-tech/deltaglider_proxy/graphs/contr...
[1] https://deltaglider.com/pricing/
vanillax | 17 hours ago
cgeier | 17 hours ago
But no, I'm also not about to start one or try to make something like SeaweedFS a community supported project that has a chance to be picked up by the CNCF, so I'm part of the problem.
uroni | 13 hours ago
beastman82 | 16 hours ago
hedgehog | 16 hours ago
justincormack | 16 hours ago
hedgehog | 12 hours ago
https://celld.dev/docs/guarantees/
tombert | 15 hours ago
The S3 API is pretty well-documented so getting something compatible with it is trivial for modern AI tools.
karolist | 14 hours ago
trox | 13 hours ago
irusensei | 12 hours ago
Garage is good but has weird tooling and a terrible searchable term. You'll receive lots of garage doors and electrical gate results when searching for issues with it.
The biggest problem with Garage is the metadata on an sqlite. If you have a single file and that sqlite corrupts then all your data is unaddressable and treated as pile of anonymous blocks. If you have multiple servers you can rebuild the metadata but if you have only one server you REALLY need to make sure that file is backed up.
So if you use S3 as a backup you have to keep a backup of your backup.
RustFS is closer to Minio, but I hate the way they log stuff. They basically use journald as a metric database dumping json formatted lines about library calls and how long they took. Its hard to make sense of those logs. Its the kind of log not meant to be human readable but to render on a dashboard.
Why not just publish these as a prometheus endpoint?
Also high CPU usage for no reason. I also noticed RustFS constantly trashing disk and keeping 10% CPU usage while looping some health check I have no idea how to disable (I've tried RUSTFS_SCANNER_ENABLED=false and others with no results). And of course lots of json metrics on journald.
I personally prefer garage because my backup box sit at my office and I like not needing to listen to HDD sounds all day every day while Rustfs loops its health check.
chrislusf | 12 hours ago
AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID=admin AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY=secret S3_BUCKET=my-bucket ./weed mini -dir=./data
That's it.
The S3 endpoint is at http://localhost:8333, my-bucket exists, and admin/secret are valid credentials.
It also starts an Iceberg REST catalog and S3 Table Buckets for Iceberg and Lance tables, with table maintenance jobs.
msarrel | 11 hours ago
radicalbit | 3 hours ago