US funding for global internet freedom 'effectively gutted'

85 points by xyzal 15 hours ago on hackernews | 19 comments

bugsense | 14 hours ago

More like "freedom".

yorwba | 13 hours ago

For a list of projects funded by the Open Technology Fund, see https://www.opentech.fund/projects-we-support/supported-proj... Includes well-known entities like the Tor Browser and F-Droid, but also plenty of stuff I never heard of before.

KevinMS | 11 hours ago

hold up. 40 million dollars over 5 years for an open source VPN?

RobotToaster | 8 hours ago

Supposedly that only covers "user carrying costs" too.[0]

They claim to have 3 million weekly users[1], I have no idea if that's a realistic cost for running a VPN of that scale?

Notably applicants for these grants don't have to be non-profits[0], which seems a little odd?

[0]https://www.opentech.fund/funds/surge-and-sustain-fund/

[1]https://psiphon.ca/en/about.html

davidguetta | 4 hours ago

what is going on

renewiltord | 13 hours ago

As The Guardian has previously pointed out https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/us-cuban-twitt...: USAID and these orgs were "undermining Cuba's communist government". Now it's time to celebrate. People will now be free to live as they wish under communism or whatever else they choose. It is not for us to choose whether people want to be invaded by Russia or ruled by Castro. If they don't want this, let them choose otherwise.

End all American foreign interference.

Cipater | 10 hours ago

Better to have the foreign interference done directly by the President himself along with his family and cronies for personal gain.

renewiltord | 3 hours ago

The President will be gone in a few years and USAID will still be gone. So that's the ideal state of affairs. The Republicans will have cleared out the bad agency and then whacked themselves. It's like radiation. You don't want the radiation always there but it's the only way to kill the cancer so you take it.

ben_w | 12 hours ago

While also claiming they'll put up a VPN to give people unfettered access to social media websites now that lots of nations are putting more restrictions on them: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-plans-online-portal-bypass-...

RobotToaster | 11 hours ago

So they're cutting funding for TOR while making a shitty version?

[OP] xyzal | 11 hours ago

A version only facilitating access to sites friendly to the Mad King and friends. No Fediverse for you!

ben_w | 4 hours ago

Perhaps, but that assumes they're actually making anything. It's quite possible they're only announcing it, or will only take people's money, or that this is a re-badge of something one of their donors already made and couldn't sell on an open market.

mvdwoord | 12 hours ago

If it is so important, why are we relying on the US to fund it? Maybe it is not that important? Maybe this program is not a pillar for 'internet freedom', maybe, as we can clearly see, most of the world (including the EU) has no real interest in 'internet freedom'..

Don't get me wrong, I personally very much think freedom (internet or otherwise) is very important, and valuable. But the tone where Orange Man Bad pulls funding for ostensibly super duper important projects is such a bore. Maybe in stead of pointing out how bad this move is, we should be doing something about it? Oh wait we are busy clamping down on "hate speech" and blocking "dangerous" social media such as X.

cyanydeez | 10 hours ago

Write me a sonnet on how proliferating child pornography is really free speech.

mvdwoord | 9 hours ago

Think of the children!

rickydroll | 7 hours ago

That's the problem, the wrong people are.

cyanydeez | 3 hours ago

Yeah, yeah. I mean, sure, we can claim a spurilous "think of thie children" angle, but usually that's about Children doing something; not pervy AIs and their pedophile proclivities.

Propelloni | 11 hours ago

I'm not worried, freedom.gov will save us all! /s

wartywhoa23 | 9 hours ago

Sure thing, the data grab stage is complete, models are trained, the bulk of the global data is in the pocket and whatever new arrives can be spoon-fed to them without the need to fund all this huge "free" data funneling infrastructure, and however much money was thrown into that must be recouped.

"Free internet" was but a business strategy, both as in beer and in freedom.