At 39 I was diagnosed with autism, severe non verbal learning disorder, a visual processing disorder and above average verbal reasoning skills.
I'm a successful professional in manufacturing; happily married; parent to a great kid. From the outside I look like one of those high functioning 'barely impaired' late diagnosed adults.
In fact, I had horrendous problems adjusting to every stage of life. I did extremely poorly K-12 despite apparent intelligence. Social issues with teachers; fellow students and later coworkers and bosses. Crashed and burned at college and didn't earn 30k/year til I was 31 despite working full time.
Luckily I was able to develop relatively healthy coping mechanisms and have a decent life but if I'd been diagnosed and supported in 1st or 2nd grade I could have avoided a few decades of pain.
So much of successfully living with neuro divergence is adapting your life situation, especially your working situation, around it to minimize its hindrances and maximize whatever particular benefits you got from it.
Neurodivergent folks don’t get the benefit of normalized benchmarks like speech development or socialization.
They’ll appear stunningly smart in some areas leading people to believe they’re fine and even thriving, but then simple processing or socialization can be abysmal.
It’s why management and coping often happens later in life for neurodivergent folks, they have to reach an age where the confluence of confidence and experience allows them to develop their own treatment plans to deal with the debilitating symptoms they’ve barely managed for years.
So sure, everyone has to figure out life, and some people have the benefit of figuring out life with a bunch of examples, research, tailored curriculums and routines.
I have severe ADHD and my story is very similar to yours. Decent grades but constantly being put down for “not trying hard enough” and “not living up to expectations”. White-knuckled through life feeling like a disappointment to everyone despite being successful by any external metric.
I highly recommend neuropsych testing if you think you have undiagnosed issues. Unfortunately there's not much to do for learning disabilities in adulthood but it was nice to have answers.
Not who you asked, but I think there’s a point if you want to know. It’s your life and you have every right to gain a little more insight into your story at any age
I’m a similar age (43) and I have a very hard time staying in a career and just started seeing a therapist because of it and she thinks I might be on the spectrum.
Just curious if you feel like sharing more about that particular part? If not that’s cool! No worries.
Sure! I maintain very different attitudes about work and personal life.
Provided nothing illegal or wildly unethical is happening, work is simple: they pay me and I do what they say. Work is there to protect me from harassment in the legal sense and give me a paycheck that's it. If I don't like the culture, it's on me to find a different job not the company to change.
And how did you end up finding a company/job that fit your particular needs/attitude/culture you vibed with. That seems to be the last I struggle with. I want to work but alot of jobs just makes me very unhappy to the point I can’t deal with simple problems in my life.
Appreciate you answering! This is all so new to me
Well I hate to say it but I got lucky. I was working my butt off managing a restaurant and a former coworker referred me to his new job. It happened to be a very good fit all regards. Office work for manufacturing so 40% of the folks are ND, diagnosed or otherwise. Attention to detail, consistency, high standards and calling out bullshit are all rewarded.
I'm a petite woman who likes museums and appreciating the changes of the seasons through nature. Everyone assumed manufacturing was the wrong environment for me, but it was exactly the right one.
So I guess don't make assumptions about certain jobs or industries being right or wrong for you. Pay attention to the content of the work and the requirements first.
This is such a good answer! Thank you. I definitely have discounted many fields because I’m a short little dude who likes movies, cameras etc etc. tried broadcasting, film, photography and hated them as careers. I still feel like a creative career is what I want but I may have to broaden my view of what that actually means,
I will check out some other fields I may not have thought I’d enjoy. I really appreciate the detailed answer and you taking the time. Thanks!
Just adding to what this other person said. I have a similar trajectory. Persistence really paid off. I got fired a few times in a row. But then eventually found a routine and attitude that works for me as well a company that really works for me. It’s a special place to work that supports me, and I think it wasn’t just luck, but quickly getting fired or leaving other companies and trying new ones until there was a fit. I had already happened to find the type of work that was compatible with me, so for me it was finding the right work environment, but also worth noting that choosing a type of career is not obvious and I never encountered a career guidance mentality that optimized for types of neurodivergence.
Amazing, thanks! Ya I definitely think neurodivergence isn’t really catered to in the working world. I’m having a hard time figuring out what to do. Stuck in a retail job at the moment but luckily it’s owned by a friend and it’s a record store lol. But I don’t get enough hours and really want a fulfilling career.
Well for what it’s worth, what I do: Defending against fraud and investigating fraud on the internet. I find it fascinating, but I notice a lot of neurotypical people in my industry treat it as if it’s boring, and complain about work like everyone else, and I believe they really are bored because of their own attitude and lack of imagination. But another big opportunity that I’ve been getting into is solving “How to work with AI as a team.” And also “How to run an entire teams operations through AI.” That’s another one where most working adults seem to be getting in their own way with their biases, reading internet articles and just not really wanting to solve that problem, leaving a huge opportunity for people who do.
It is crazy the amount of anti-autism misinformation being pumped out by all the big media outlets that are supposed to be left leaning and progressive, right at the time the government has cut all support to people with autism.
There's like 3 "experts" saying what the guardian here claims. On the other side is all of the rest of the researchers.
Yet for some reason this tiny group keeps getting interview after interview.
The trans debate has this exact same problem in England right now. Most researchers are in pretty clear agreement, yet theres a small handful of very vocal anti-gender surgery campaigners .. yet somehow they are in the news constantly and we hear nothing from any of the other experts.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 2/3 of our prison population is neurodivergent. You know, the population that has tripled in the last 30 years? You know, that same population now managed by for profit companies.. oh since about 30 years ago? Definitely no dodgy incentives there hey
The author is right, there really needs to be a separate term for ASD-like people showing milder, less impairing systems. I'm one of those people. I will never claim to be Autistic, because it takes focus and resources away from people who truly merit the diagnosis. This trendy "I'm neurodivergent quirky Autistic, pay attention to me!" thing needs to stop
The author never says there needs to be a seperate term. This is a journalistic piece which tries to capture many different viewpoints and isn't trying to persuade you in any particular direction, just present the core tension. But I do think the author ended it on this quote for a reason:
>I’d like the polarisation of views to change into a discussion where all sides start with the assumption of goodwill and we can actually talk about things without being afraid
I think off the bat, you aren't affording the other side of the discussion that goodwill. Most people who consider themselves autistic aren't doing it because they want to be quirky attention seekers. That's just your way of not having to deal with a more nuanced discussion here.
I do agree that the core issue is a battle over resources and recognition. Autism is no longer a term for just profoundly disabled children as it was before those who would otherwise be diagnosed with what was called 'Aspergers', were absorbed into the autism spectum. (This decision was likely made only in regard to discoveries in developmental science, not how it would impact disability advocacy for people relying on the old framework)
And that's a scary shift for people who care for profoundly disabled autistic people. Their previous diagnostic advocacy terminology now doesn't hold as much weight as it once did and they've had to uncomfortably pivot. As one lady in the article says, dropping the autism lable altogether and just saying her child is intellectually disabled.
In my opinion, a lot of the issue comes down to how we as a society put up so many barriers for families who need help with their disabled family members. If we make access to these resources not strictly dependant on a specific diagnosis and use a method that more reliably assesses someone's actual need, this fight over resources wouldn't be so detrimental.
Yes and no. Asperger's was not meant to stand for "mild autism", it was meant to stand for "autism, but able to fit in and communicate to some degree". I am oversimplifying here, but the central point is that Asperger's was not a judgement over severity.
The reason it got folded into ASD as a whole is that High-Functioning Autism (HFA) also was used to describe "autism, but able to fit in and communicate". That's what the "high-functioning" relates to: Significant ability to interface with other people, in contrast to "low-functioning" individuals who would lack that ability; Non-verbal autistic people, for example. To contrast this out explicitly: This is not about the severity of your autism, or your ability to cope with autism, or to master your own life. This is about the ability to get into contact with other people. Which does have some impact on the "ability to master your life", so it's easy and tempting to tie them both into one - but the essence is that neither Asperger's nor HFA say anything about how severe your autistic experience in itself is.
If I recall correctly (I was diagnosed in that in-between time where Asperger's was being phased out, and actually have both an Asperger's and an HFA diagnosis), the material difference between HFA and Asperger's was a delay in language acquisition as a child, and that was deemed not significant on a treatment/later difficulties level that the best option was deemed to condense these separate diagnoses into a single one.
Hope that helped, and I hope I did not misunderstand what you were asking!
No. What you are doing is internalised ableism to protect yourself from losing the privilege of not considering yourself anymore in the "normal" population. Because you know deep down that if you actually admitted to yourself that you are really autistic, with different needs to others, you would no longer feel part of the in group and have to reassess a whoooole bunch of shit. That is denial mate, not healthy growth.
I see this over, and over again. People who swear up and down they're "just a bit autistic", but also happen to just have really intense hang ups about neurodivergence and how others should go about getting diagnosed, and REFUSE to learn anything about the subject.
That is, by definition, ableism.
This is exactly what happened in the mid-century with queer culture. Some of the most harsh abuse people received while coming out was from other closeted queer people who were desperately trying to remain part of the in group, and would be the loudest critics of other queer people. We will continue to see this bullshit behaviour from hurt people unable to face their demons, and I will keep calling it out every time I see it.
Can you not read? They explained it clearly. Queer people and disabled people experience similar levels of discrimination. It's not a stretch to compare them or use one as an example.
This will be the choice that says more about you than it does me - do you disregard me as a crazy nutjob and a loon, or do you have curiosity about how exactly I came to the conclusion I did?
So, what exactly do you think that number means?
Because an increase in diagnosises can corelate with a lot of things.
Such as better diagnostic criteria.
Jesus this is the most ridiculous comment thread. It's in the 3rd paragraph, very easy to find. "In the UK, there was a 787% increase between 1998 and 2018, with the rise greater for women than men, and the single biggest jump among adults; credible American stats have shown an increase across the whole population of 175% between 2011 and 2022, with the largest rise occurring among 26- to 34 year-olds (in both countries, childhood rates have also leapt up)."
The dilution of the diagnosis and the notion of ‘mild autism’ means that limited resources are being misspent and those with the severest needs are losing out.
I’m curious what you mean. My daughter was just diagnosed and a whole bunch of free or insurance-covered services were offered. Do you mean something different?
It’s a central tenet of the book ‘The Age of Diagnosis’, by Suzanne O Sullivan. I found the book very well evidenced and convincing.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/12/the-age-of-diagnosis-by-suzanne-osullivan-review-do-no-harm?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
turingtested | 23 hours ago
At 39 I was diagnosed with autism, severe non verbal learning disorder, a visual processing disorder and above average verbal reasoning skills.
I'm a successful professional in manufacturing; happily married; parent to a great kid. From the outside I look like one of those high functioning 'barely impaired' late diagnosed adults.
In fact, I had horrendous problems adjusting to every stage of life. I did extremely poorly K-12 despite apparent intelligence. Social issues with teachers; fellow students and later coworkers and bosses. Crashed and burned at college and didn't earn 30k/year til I was 31 despite working full time.
Luckily I was able to develop relatively healthy coping mechanisms and have a decent life but if I'd been diagnosed and supported in 1st or 2nd grade I could have avoided a few decades of pain.
Teantis | 22 hours ago
So much of successfully living with neuro divergence is adapting your life situation, especially your working situation, around it to minimize its hindrances and maximize whatever particular benefits you got from it.
justsumchik | 19 hours ago
Isn’t this also just part of successfully living?
Qss | 19 hours ago
Neurodivergent folks don’t get the benefit of normalized benchmarks like speech development or socialization.
They’ll appear stunningly smart in some areas leading people to believe they’re fine and even thriving, but then simple processing or socialization can be abysmal.
It’s why management and coping often happens later in life for neurodivergent folks, they have to reach an age where the confluence of confidence and experience allows them to develop their own treatment plans to deal with the debilitating symptoms they’ve barely managed for years.
So sure, everyone has to figure out life, and some people have the benefit of figuring out life with a bunch of examples, research, tailored curriculums and routines.
felix_mateo | 21 hours ago
I have severe ADHD and my story is very similar to yours. Decent grades but constantly being put down for “not trying hard enough” and “not living up to expectations”. White-knuckled through life feeling like a disappointment to everyone despite being successful by any external metric.
jackparadise1 | 22 hours ago
Damn, all this time I thought it was my Klinefelter’s! Your life is my life!
turingtested | 22 hours ago
I highly recommend neuropsych testing if you think you have undiagnosed issues. Unfortunately there's not much to do for learning disabilities in adulthood but it was nice to have answers.
jackparadise1 | 22 hours ago
At 58, not sure there is much of a point? More of a curiosity?
ComprehensiveTax415 | 21 hours ago
Not who you asked, but I think there’s a point if you want to know. It’s your life and you have every right to gain a little more insight into your story at any age
turingtested | 20 hours ago
For me it answered a lot about why things were so hard for me.
yodatsracist | 21 hours ago
I’m curious about your story. What were your coping mechanisms you developed? How did they affect your career?
turingtested | 20 hours ago
I need to really stick to a routine is a big one.
A lot of it was changing my attitude towards work.
Sufficient-Rub-9466 | 19 hours ago
Can I ask what your attitude toward work was?
I’m a similar age (43) and I have a very hard time staying in a career and just started seeing a therapist because of it and she thinks I might be on the spectrum.
Just curious if you feel like sharing more about that particular part? If not that’s cool! No worries.
turingtested | 19 hours ago
Sure! I maintain very different attitudes about work and personal life.
Provided nothing illegal or wildly unethical is happening, work is simple: they pay me and I do what they say. Work is there to protect me from harassment in the legal sense and give me a paycheck that's it. If I don't like the culture, it's on me to find a different job not the company to change.
Sufficient-Rub-9466 | 19 hours ago
And how did you end up finding a company/job that fit your particular needs/attitude/culture you vibed with. That seems to be the last I struggle with. I want to work but alot of jobs just makes me very unhappy to the point I can’t deal with simple problems in my life.
Appreciate you answering! This is all so new to me
turingtested | 16 hours ago
Well I hate to say it but I got lucky. I was working my butt off managing a restaurant and a former coworker referred me to his new job. It happened to be a very good fit all regards. Office work for manufacturing so 40% of the folks are ND, diagnosed or otherwise. Attention to detail, consistency, high standards and calling out bullshit are all rewarded.
I'm a petite woman who likes museums and appreciating the changes of the seasons through nature. Everyone assumed manufacturing was the wrong environment for me, but it was exactly the right one.
So I guess don't make assumptions about certain jobs or industries being right or wrong for you. Pay attention to the content of the work and the requirements first.
Sufficient-Rub-9466 | 15 hours ago
This is such a good answer! Thank you. I definitely have discounted many fields because I’m a short little dude who likes movies, cameras etc etc. tried broadcasting, film, photography and hated them as careers. I still feel like a creative career is what I want but I may have to broaden my view of what that actually means,
I will check out some other fields I may not have thought I’d enjoy. I really appreciate the detailed answer and you taking the time. Thanks!
turingtested | 10 hours ago
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful. I hope you find your niche.
millennial_falcon | 15 hours ago
Just adding to what this other person said. I have a similar trajectory. Persistence really paid off. I got fired a few times in a row. But then eventually found a routine and attitude that works for me as well a company that really works for me. It’s a special place to work that supports me, and I think it wasn’t just luck, but quickly getting fired or leaving other companies and trying new ones until there was a fit. I had already happened to find the type of work that was compatible with me, so for me it was finding the right work environment, but also worth noting that choosing a type of career is not obvious and I never encountered a career guidance mentality that optimized for types of neurodivergence.
Sufficient-Rub-9466 | 15 hours ago
Amazing, thanks! Ya I definitely think neurodivergence isn’t really catered to in the working world. I’m having a hard time figuring out what to do. Stuck in a retail job at the moment but luckily it’s owned by a friend and it’s a record store lol. But I don’t get enough hours and really want a fulfilling career.
millennial_falcon | 15 hours ago
Well for what it’s worth, what I do: Defending against fraud and investigating fraud on the internet. I find it fascinating, but I notice a lot of neurotypical people in my industry treat it as if it’s boring, and complain about work like everyone else, and I believe they really are bored because of their own attitude and lack of imagination. But another big opportunity that I’ve been getting into is solving “How to work with AI as a team.” And also “How to run an entire teams operations through AI.” That’s another one where most working adults seem to be getting in their own way with their biases, reading internet articles and just not really wanting to solve that problem, leaving a huge opportunity for people who do.
Wonderful_Kick_855 | 20 hours ago
You sound just like me.
Impossible-Year-5924 | 19 hours ago
Similar life though diagnosed way earlier at 17-19
brezhnervouz | 12 hours ago
Being specifically a spectrum there is nothing 'singular' about autism whatsoever
It's like that saying; if you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person 🤷
rzm25 | 22 hours ago
It is crazy the amount of anti-autism misinformation being pumped out by all the big media outlets that are supposed to be left leaning and progressive, right at the time the government has cut all support to people with autism.
There's like 3 "experts" saying what the guardian here claims. On the other side is all of the rest of the researchers.
Yet for some reason this tiny group keeps getting interview after interview.
The trans debate has this exact same problem in England right now. Most researchers are in pretty clear agreement, yet theres a small handful of very vocal anti-gender surgery campaigners .. yet somehow they are in the news constantly and we hear nothing from any of the other experts.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that 2/3 of our prison population is neurodivergent. You know, the population that has tripled in the last 30 years? You know, that same population now managed by for profit companies.. oh since about 30 years ago? Definitely no dodgy incentives there hey
terran_cell | a day ago
The author is right, there really needs to be a separate term for ASD-like people showing milder, less impairing systems. I'm one of those people. I will never claim to be Autistic, because it takes focus and resources away from people who truly merit the diagnosis. This trendy "I'm neurodivergent quirky Autistic, pay attention to me!" thing needs to stop
ilovemytablet | 18 hours ago
The author never says there needs to be a seperate term. This is a journalistic piece which tries to capture many different viewpoints and isn't trying to persuade you in any particular direction, just present the core tension. But I do think the author ended it on this quote for a reason:
>I’d like the polarisation of views to change into a discussion where all sides start with the assumption of goodwill and we can actually talk about things without being afraid
I think off the bat, you aren't affording the other side of the discussion that goodwill. Most people who consider themselves autistic aren't doing it because they want to be quirky attention seekers. That's just your way of not having to deal with a more nuanced discussion here.
I do agree that the core issue is a battle over resources and recognition. Autism is no longer a term for just profoundly disabled children as it was before those who would otherwise be diagnosed with what was called 'Aspergers', were absorbed into the autism spectum. (This decision was likely made only in regard to discoveries in developmental science, not how it would impact disability advocacy for people relying on the old framework)
And that's a scary shift for people who care for profoundly disabled autistic people. Their previous diagnostic advocacy terminology now doesn't hold as much weight as it once did and they've had to uncomfortably pivot. As one lady in the article says, dropping the autism lable altogether and just saying her child is intellectually disabled.
In my opinion, a lot of the issue comes down to how we as a society put up so many barriers for families who need help with their disabled family members. If we make access to these resources not strictly dependant on a specific diagnosis and use a method that more reliably assesses someone's actual need, this fight over resources wouldn't be so detrimental.
or_me_bender | 15 hours ago
"This totally widespread thing I made up in my head needs to stop"
Son_of_Kong | 21 hours ago
Didn't we already call that Asperger's?
SwirlingAbsurdity | 16 hours ago
No - the term was removed from the DSM in 2013 and Asperger’s was moved into ‘Autism Spectrum Disorder’.
Son_of_Kong | 11 hours ago
Hence why I said "Didn't we..."
The_Corvair | an hour ago
Yes and no. Asperger's was not meant to stand for "mild autism", it was meant to stand for "autism, but able to fit in and communicate to some degree". I am oversimplifying here, but the central point is that Asperger's was not a judgement over severity.
The reason it got folded into ASD as a whole is that High-Functioning Autism (HFA) also was used to describe "autism, but able to fit in and communicate". That's what the "high-functioning" relates to: Significant ability to interface with other people, in contrast to "low-functioning" individuals who would lack that ability; Non-verbal autistic people, for example. To contrast this out explicitly: This is not about the severity of your autism, or your ability to cope with autism, or to master your own life. This is about the ability to get into contact with other people. Which does have some impact on the "ability to master your life", so it's easy and tempting to tie them both into one - but the essence is that neither Asperger's nor HFA say anything about how severe your autistic experience in itself is.
If I recall correctly (I was diagnosed in that in-between time where Asperger's was being phased out, and actually have both an Asperger's and an HFA diagnosis), the material difference between HFA and Asperger's was a delay in language acquisition as a child, and that was deemed not significant on a treatment/later difficulties level that the best option was deemed to condense these separate diagnoses into a single one.
Hope that helped, and I hope I did not misunderstand what you were asking!
rzm25 | 21 hours ago
No. What you are doing is internalised ableism to protect yourself from losing the privilege of not considering yourself anymore in the "normal" population. Because you know deep down that if you actually admitted to yourself that you are really autistic, with different needs to others, you would no longer feel part of the in group and have to reassess a whoooole bunch of shit. That is denial mate, not healthy growth.
I see this over, and over again. People who swear up and down they're "just a bit autistic", but also happen to just have really intense hang ups about neurodivergence and how others should go about getting diagnosed, and REFUSE to learn anything about the subject.
That is, by definition, ableism.
This is exactly what happened in the mid-century with queer culture. Some of the most harsh abuse people received while coming out was from other closeted queer people who were desperately trying to remain part of the in group, and would be the loudest critics of other queer people. We will continue to see this bullshit behaviour from hurt people unable to face their demons, and I will keep calling it out every time I see it.
funnyredditname | 20 hours ago
I would suggest you need more then a single small paragraph to respond with what you just typed.
Calling out what? How did you throw queer culture into it?
Jesus. Take a break
LunamiLu | 19 hours ago
Can you not read? They explained it clearly. Queer people and disabled people experience similar levels of discrimination. It's not a stretch to compare them or use one as an example.
rzm25 | 20 hours ago
😂😂
terran_cell | 4 hours ago
Huh??
rzm25 | 4 hours ago
This will be the choice that says more about you than it does me - do you disregard me as a crazy nutjob and a loon, or do you have curiosity about how exactly I came to the conclusion I did?
HumanBarbarian | 14 hours ago
It's an OPINION piece. Not a scientific article. It means nothing.
funnyredditname | 20 hours ago
Anytime you see a 787% rise in diagnosis you should take a step back and re-examine your classifications.
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
So, what exactly do you think that number means? Because an increase in diagnosises can corelate with a lot of things. Such as better diagnostic criteria.
Edit: spelling
HumanBarbarian | 17 hours ago
Do you have a source for that number?
lucid-dream | 16 hours ago
It’s in the article.
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
Please share the quote then?
lucid-dream | 16 hours ago
Is there a reason you can’t read the article?
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
Is there a reason you can't share the quote?
lucid-dream | 16 hours ago
You asked OP for a source. I told you the article is the source. It is now your responsibility to read the source, dude.
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
Well, dear, if you are asked for a source and refuse to provide it, I guess it's bullshit. 🤷♀️
amateurzenmagazine | 14 hours ago
Jesus this is the most ridiculous comment thread. It's in the 3rd paragraph, very easy to find. "In the UK, there was a 787% increase between 1998 and 2018, with the rise greater for women than men, and the single biggest jump among adults; credible American stats have shown an increase across the whole population of 175% between 2011 and 2022, with the largest rise occurring among 26- to 34 year-olds (in both countries, childhood rates have also leapt up)."
funnyredditname | 14 hours ago
Its literally the source material for the discussion. If you haven't read it you aren't in a position to make any claims.
HumanBarbarian | 14 hours ago
Yes, I am in a position to have an opinion. Just like the author of the opinion piece.
mandatoryfield | 22 hours ago
The dilution of the diagnosis and the notion of ‘mild autism’ means that limited resources are being misspent and those with the severest needs are losing out.
justsumchik | 19 hours ago
That’s really not how it works. Having autism is not what magically makes the services appear.
maladii | 18 hours ago
I’m curious what you mean. My daughter was just diagnosed and a whole bunch of free or insurance-covered services were offered. Do you mean something different?
HumanBarbarian | 17 hours ago
You live in a good place where they care about people. That's what it means.
maladii | 17 hours ago
Okay. So two things made the resources appear.
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
Services for children are also easier to get. For adults, not so much.
maladii | 15 hours ago
That’s true
justsumchik | 11 hours ago
I just meant that for children services are based on symptoms and need rather than diagnosis.
HumanBarbarian | 16 hours ago
Do you have a source for your claim?
mandatoryfield | 15 hours ago
It’s a central tenet of the book ‘The Age of Diagnosis’, by Suzanne O Sullivan. I found the book very well evidenced and convincing. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/mar/12/the-age-of-diagnosis-by-suzanne-osullivan-review-do-no-harm?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
HumanBarbarian | 15 hours ago
So, it's just a book. Not a scientific study showing this is the case. This does not prove your opinion.
or_me_bender | 15 hours ago
Do you have any evidence that is happening?
Joan_Smallberries | 20 hours ago
This is awesome and I would totally put the center poster up in my locker.