‘Viruses don’t know borders’: US anti-vaccine rhetoric could impact global measles crisis

867 points by shinybrighthings a day ago on reddit | 30 comments

dantevonlocke | a day ago

Other countries will just block travel from the US.

Will2LiveFading | a day ago

Trump will invade them or some bullshit. Dude really thinks he runs the world and scarily enough it seems to be working. Everyday I wake up hoping to read the orange finally rotted instead it's the orange spreading his tyranny everywhere and anywhere. So sick of this pos.

BadahBingBadahBoom | a day ago

Other countries that have effective education systems, public health communication, universal healthcare, and high-coverage vaccination campaigns have achieved herd immunity.

They don't need to block travel to unvaccinated US citizens to prevent a domestic outbreak.

It's only a 'measles crisis' in countries that don't have this.

EDIT: Dnu why the downvote, this is just established epidemiological fact: You don't need to block entry of communicable diseases if there is sufficient herd immunity in your own population to make that imported case turning into an outbreak biologically impossible.

This is why Covid restrictions for entering visitors were relaxed when those country had achieved high levels of immunity domestically.

licalier | a day ago

The problem is that the wackos in the USA are exporting their insanity to other countries and its having a severe effect on uptake especially among the most vulnerable groups. In NZ Maori Vax rates have dropped about 10 per cent since Covid and most of the blame lies with the international anti Vax movement.

horseradishstalker | a day ago

IIrc, at least some of the early cases of measles in Texas were the result of children contracting measles outside of the US and bringing it back to unvaccinated children in their communities.

GammaDeltaTheta | a day ago

If the other countries have high levels of vaccination, measles imported from countries with inadequate levels of vaccination won't spread. If they don't have high levels of vaccination, they are in trouble anyway. Viruses don't just take direct flights.

Firm-Analysis6666 | a day ago

It's beyond ridiculous how many people get their take on vaccines from memes.

Opening-Cress5028 | a day ago

It’s beyond ridiculous how fucking stupid we’ve actually worked to make ourselves as a country, on the whole. Maybe there was always this many fucking idiots out there but sensible people just paid them no mind and now they have a way to connect and elect, but damn.

Firm-Analysis6666 | a day ago

I miss the days when FB blocked misinformation.

Opening-Cress5028 | 9 hours ago

I’ve never been on FB, or any social media (unless Reddit is social media) but it does seem they should do so. The world has certainly gotten worse faster after they quit.

Whole_Winner6172 | 16 hours ago

The western society had it so good for so long...With easy access to the most advanced medicine & science, western society forget what it was like to not have it.

They forget how fragile life is.

It's sad that people would want to suffer through something preventable.

atlantis_airlines | a day ago

Anti-vaccination ideology needs to be looked at like a virus itself. I see people here in the comments talking about preventing Americans from traveling or it not being an issue if other countries are fully vaccinated. But that's missing the point. America isn't the problem, anti-vaccination ideology is. The USA is currently very infected with the ideology and is spreading, not through travel but media, political support, and the alternative medicine sector.

GayGuyGarth | a day ago

During my recent hospitalization they kept asking about my immunization status. They seemed really impressed that I’ve been immunized for every little damm thing possible. Covid, the flu, the recombinant zoster vaccine, Tdap, RSV, MMR, and any other thing they might wanna poke me with. I’ve even had the hepatitis B series 3 different times (once before I started school, once when I started my first healthcare job, and again a few years later for another employer when I tested negative on my HepB titers) before they realized I’m a “nonresponder”. 9 hepatitis B injections over 7 years and my body still won’t produce the antibodies according to multiple tests… lucky me!

When asked by the anti-vax folks about why I allow them to fill my body with all these chemicals, I reply that I willingly put all kinds of chemicals in my body in my early 20s. Whatever’s in that syringe has been studied for safety a hell of a lot more than whatever I ingested in my 20s. I’ll be just fine, thanks for asking!

Desperate-Today-358 | a day ago

ya think?

Kalos139 | a day ago

Going to be great when nearly every country starts prohibiting Americans from visiting in that scenario.

Junesucksatart | a day ago

And of course the normal Americans are punished for the stupidity of their neighbours

Crafty-Walrus-2238 | a day ago

Hopefully other countries will require proof of vaccinations as Americans seek to enter their country.

Jstrangways | a day ago

Trump and RFK Jnr - the originators of the STDs* aimed at killing and maiming children everywhere

Stupidity Transmitted Diseases

funkiestj | a day ago

we have become Boko Haram.

ASecularBuddhist | 23 hours ago

Thanks Facebook 👍🏼

alternatingflan | 22 hours ago

The POS felon krasnov and his death cult ruin everything and everyone.

Vegetable_Ferret8984 | a day ago

Lmao, nobody wears a mask. Every single one of these articles never mention that they can mask. It shows that people can’t do the bare minimum and enact change. You don’t want to be exposed to measles, let people know they can wear a mask. American culture of convenience is a rot and it starts with the people who know better.

Strigops-habroptila | a day ago

Just get the fucking vaccine and get measles to no longer exist.

Edit: Measles could be extinct by now if people would just get vaccinated

Vegetable_Ferret8984 | a day ago

“Just get the vaccine” You have to first try to stop transmitting and getting infected with covid before the measles vaccine can work. Wut u going to do about it

floralmortal | a day ago

The measles vaccine has worked for years, my guy. It was practically nonexistent because everyone had the vaccine. Americans are some of the stupidest people alive.

Almost a good thing Donald Trump is the president because the American empire will maybe finally fall because of him

Vegetable_Ferret8984 | 7 hours ago

It worked for years, then when a new fast mutating virus that damages the immune system comes to forefront you ignore it because you think all vaccines are sterilizing no matter what virus it is…but thats just what you wanted to hear and you have ignored that covid damages the immune system and makes people more vulnerable to other viruses despite being vaccinated. Lots of hand waving and brunching from people who claim they know better. You are part of the problem.

Strigops-habroptila | a day ago

I'm sorry, what?

Will2LiveFading | a day ago

So now mask are okay but when covid was running wild it was a violation of your rights? Fucking monkey brains.